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    Please tell me you aren't declaring that cases are dropping because of one day


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    Went cycling today with a balaclava, n95 mask underneath (surprisingly I could breathe well) and goggles down a concrete walk/bike path near my home.

    It was packed. Usually I see one or two people on the 8 mile ride but today it was at least 50, probably more because of families. Maybe 5 had masks/face coverings on.

    These people are nuts.

    I normally mountain bike on a trail but it's rained so much the trail can't be ridden. I'm lucky because very few austinites know about this mountain bike trail. I think I'll risk the mud instead of people right now, even if it damages the trail. I can't run anymore due to knee injuries.

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    Is diahrrea a symptom? my dad has a stomach ache, headache and im worried, he's 56 and while he is staying at home, he's also gone out grocery shopping

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    Originally Posted by RollingStones View Post
    Is diahrrea a symptom? my dad has a stomach ache, headache and im worried, he's 56 and while he is staying at home, he's also gone out grocery shopping
    Some have,yes . . .

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertg.../#88d700c2f278

    While we are focused on cough and fever as the initial signs of COVID-19, it’s also important to be aware that abdominal pain, vomiting and diarrhea could precede respiratory symptoms in some people.

    Results of a new study published in the American Journal of Gastroenterology indicate that a subset of persons could develop symptoms such as vomiting and diarrhea along with abdominal pain during early stages of infection with SARS -CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.
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    Originally Posted by taf1968 View Post
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    Is diahrrea a symptom? my dad has a stomach ache, headache and im worried, he's 56 and while he is staying at home, he's also gone out grocery shopping
    Some have,yes . . .

    Results of a new study published in the American Journal of Gastroenterology indicate that a subset of persons could develop symptoms such as vomiting and diarrhea along with abdominal pain during early stages of infection with SARS -CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.
    This. I came across this study recently in the news, coincidentally was reading it on my phone on the sh!tter having diarrhea, and thinking:"well, better get my affairs in order". Thankfully it's a few days later, I'm fine

    Anyway, I'm curious about how left-wing and right-wing ppl (and those who don't give a sh!t bout politics) feel about the government monitoring ppl's movement through their phones. It's happening in Tennessee, and while they say it's anonymous tracking, Edward Snowden revealed it to be otherwise (Bonus in clip: Mayor "Kane" speaks against it at the end of the video)




    @RollingStones: Better get your old man checked out

    @pogue: You've made a big effort to aware ppl on the outbreak, kindly consider fixing the info on page 1 about the need to cover your face in public as per new US' CDC guidelines (with a facemask or otherwise).

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    Another good sign

    Spain and Italy death rate slows: On Sunday, 674 people died in Spain from coronavirus, the lowest daily rise since early March. And Italy recorded its lowest death rate within a 24-hour period in two weeks with 525 fatalities.

    https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...-20/index.html
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    Another article suggesting COVID should be treated like HAPE and outlines therapies:

    https://www.cureus.com/articles/2900...-2019-covid-19
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Please tell me you aren't declaring that cases are dropping because of one day


    FFS guys, be smarter than this
    Surely that won't cause people to relax and wander out. Surely
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    "Dow set to rise as Coronavirus slows"

    https://www.cnn.com/business/live-ne...620/index.html
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    IHME modeling has been updated and is looking far better, ending sooner and lesser. I hope it's getting more accurate now and not less.

    https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections


    We'll hopefully be getting back to normal sooner rather than later.

    In my state of NC it had May still being a very active month in prior modeling but has it mostly over here by May 1st now, and total deaths projected went from the mid-2000s to several hundred. I hope that's accurate.

    I didn't check all the states but did notice it still projects Florida getting hit pretty hard.

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    Originally Posted by jackamo2887 View Post
    "Dow set to rise as Coronavirus slows"

    https://www.cnn.com/business/live-ne...620/index.html
    I continue to treat this as a buying opportunity, but people should be prepared for the market to get spooked again once the difficulties restarting the economy and the loss of consumer confidence becomes clear. Also early reports that Tokyo is just now starting to kick off and their PM isn't yet empowered to close businesses or issue stay-at-home orders.
    Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.

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    Guess I anticipated NYC having above 3rd world level medical infrastructure.

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    Originally Posted by LukeLissen View Post
    IHME modeling has been updated and is looking far better, ending sooner and lesser. I hope it's getting more accurate now and not less.

    https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections


    We'll hopefully be getting back to normal sooner rather than later.

    In my state of NC it had May still being a very active month in prior modeling but has it mostly over here by May 1st now, and total deaths projected went from the mid-2000s to several hundred. I hope that's accurate.

    I didn't check all the states but did notice it still projects Florida getting hit pretty hard.
    much better projections now
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    I continue to treat this as a buying opportunity, but people should be prepared for the market to get spooked again once the difficulties restarting the economy and the loss of consumer confidence becomes clear. Also early reports that Tokyo is just now starting to kick off and their PM isn't yet empowered to close businesses or issue stay-at-home orders.
    Anyone with a steady job right now should be dumping money from each paycheck into this market. I am 30 years old, everything I am buying now will be very juicy when I retire in 30 years.
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    Originally Posted by LukeLissen View Post
    IHME modeling has been updated and is looking far better, ending sooner and lesser. I hope it's getting more accurate now and not less.

    https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections


    We'll hopefully be getting back to normal sooner rather than later.

    In my state of NC it had May still being a very active month in prior modeling but has it mostly over here by May 1st now, and total deaths projected went from the mid-2000s to several hundred. I hope that's accurate.

    I didn't check all the states but did notice it still projects Florida getting hit pretty hard.
    "assuming full social distancing through May"

    Does that mean 2 more months of full this?

    80k projected deaths by August with a peak projection of 3k in a day.

    If those turn out to be true what we'll have is a much of retards screeching about how that other virus kills up to 60k a year (in a bad year, estimated with few tests, over the course of a full year) while this "only" killed 80k (in 6 months) therefore it was stupid to do all this social distancing and closing (even though deaths would have been far higher if we didn't do it.

    Just wait.


    And it will matter if, and there is no telling yet, but, if, it comes back next season. The Spanish influenza was worse the second season and all that...we still need to think about the long con

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    And it will matter if, and there is no telling yet, but, if, it comes back next season.
    I don't think we need to see if it comes back next season. It's not going to go away over the next few months/summer 100%. It's just...not.

    We're just going to have to get back to as normal as possible and deal with it. Reports of people getting over it, yet 2-3 weeks later still shedding virus. That just doesn't go away forever to me.

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    Wait...I have to take issue with this model.

    It has a total deaths projected by August 4th, but it projects 0 deaths after June 22. Literally projects a total of 81,650 for May 31 and then only goes up by like 16 deaths for all of June and 0 deaths for all of July and into August? How does that work??

    I know it gives a range of uncertainty, but the projected specific number/line goes flat and the area of uncertainty likewise completely flatlines

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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    I don't think we need to see if it comes back next season. It's not going to go away over the next few months/summer 100%. It's just...not.

    We're just going to have to get back to as normal as possible and deal with it. Reports of people getting over it, yet 2-3 weeks later still shedding virus. That just doesn't go away forever to me.
    Luckily by the time the next season rolls around we will have made more progress with treatments and therapies.. And hopefully a vaccine is closer than it is now.
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    Originally Posted by jackamo2887 View Post
    Anyone with a steady job right now should be dumping money from each paycheck into this market. I am 30 years old, everything I am buying now will be very juicy when I retire in 30 years.
    Yuuuuup.

    My Roth is heavy on XT now. Basically a one-stop iShares ETF of 200 companies that are positioned to leverage futuristic technologies: automation, genetics, etc. Has not only outperformed historically, but so far, isn't face-planting as hard during this downturn. Gilead Sciences, maker of remdesivir, is one of their top 10 holdings.

    Historically, IMO, tech adoption is accelerated by pandemics as organizations are forced to find new ways to do things and keep the changes that worked afterwards. We're seeing that now with the increased demand for work-from-home technologies, but I think you're also going to see it continue in the aftermath. Companies that are already positioned for that are likely to outperform.

    Also picked up some Ford, Boeing, Norwegian Cruise Lines in taxable while they're on sale. If I lose it, I lose it and take the tax deduction. Figure the shareholder perks at NCL and Ford should pay for themselves at some point. Might buy into something tied to Vegas in the next round, but I don't know what. Sniffing around both sides of the Caesar's/Eldorado deal.
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    Originally Posted by jackamo2887 View Post
    Luckily by the time the next season rolls around we will have made more progress with treatments and therapies.. And hopefully a vaccine is closer than it is now.
    Hopefully we will have made progress there, but it's not a guarantee.

    That will be no vaccine for next winter

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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Hopefully we will have made progress there, but it's not a guarantee.

    That will be no vaccine for next winter
    I saw another lab last week has a vaccine in the form of a patch that has worked on rats. They're hoping FDA will fast track human trials. Not sure how much faster fast tracking is, but....

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    Guys. Avoid threads, news, broadcasts, irl convos etc like this srs. Overdiscussing it does no good to anyone and most of you will end up as hypochondriacs.

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    Originally Posted by Sinan09400 View Post
    Guys. Avoid threads, news, broadcasts, irl convos etc like this srs. Overdiscussing it does no good to anyone and most of you will end up as hypochondriacs.
    You do you

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    has anyone found any more evidence of the virus attacking the red blood cells preventing oxygen binding which leads to the respiratory issues? I think thats a very plausible mechanism of attack and explains some of the issues that have been arising

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    What the fuk are they testing tigers for? Srs. There's supposedly a shortage.
    i can absolutely promise you that learning if it transmits to animals or not is 1000000x more important
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    As discussed herein and in the YouTube video at the top of the page, treatment paradigms seem to be changing and are driven more by the assumptions that this is more like HAPE:

    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04332081
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    I saw another lab last week has a vaccine in the form of a patch that has worked on rats. They're hoping FDA will fast track human trials. Not sure how much faster fast tracking is, but....
    Yep. Seems to work more like the traditional vaccine. Antigen is delivered into the skin via microneedles which are composed of sugar, which are then readily dissolved. It's a bandaid-type patch and feels like velcro. Immunity is developed within 2 weeks. Seems easy to scale up. Yes, it's just mouse data at this point but human trials are starting up and it def looks promising.

    https://www.pittwire.pitt.edu/news/c...iewed-research
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Hopefully we will have made progress there, but it's not a guarantee.

    That will be no vaccine for next winter
    A vaccine isn't needed so much as just treatments that help those who are hospitalized. The death rate is low. Many people who get it show no symptoms or get over it without needing any treatment.

    Really just need some better therapies to help those who are hospitalized, and I think those will be ready by winter. Some are said to already be working such as the anti malaria drug and also injecting plasma from recovered patients has helped someone that was hospitalized.

    Lots of optimistic news coming out lately.
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    Originally Posted by jackamo2887 View Post
    A vaccine isn't needed so much as just treatments that help those who are hospitalized. The death rate is low. Many people who get it show no symptoms or get over it without needing any treatment.

    Really just need some better therapies to help those who are hospitalized, and I think those will be ready by winter. Some are said to already be working such as the anti malaria drug and also injecting plasma from recovered patients has helped someone that was hospitalized.

    Lots of optimistic news coming out lately.
    That drug doesn't work as well as most people seem to think. At least one country and I think more than one already banned it, actually.

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