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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    "Anyone that wants a test can get a test"

    uh-huh and that was what 1.5 months ago

    What's a major restriction on everything now? "If only we could do more tests"

    For a month now we've been hearing about this many millions available tomorrow and this many million more next week, etc.
    I mean with the way they talk, we should have enough test kits to test every ****ing American in the country. My guess is even if we had the kits it wouldn't matter because actually running the tests is the true bottleneck, not the test kits themselves.

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    Originally Posted by MakeABanana View Post
    The fact that NY hospitals got overwhelmed should be a clear enough fact that this isn't like the seasonal flu.

    Fortunately, at my place, we're actually discharging more patients than admitting, so that's a clear sign that we've passed the peak here.
    Actually not even close. There's no vaccine for the vulnerable population. I'd expect any seasonal flu that had no vaccine to similarly overrun our hospitals. Our hospitals are built to treat the known, not the unknown.

    This is literally a seasonal flu that we are attempting to stop by quarantining everyone. It's not dangerous unless you're 60+ with diabetes and congestive heart failure.

    Have the unhealthy and old stay home until a vaccine is available, like we have them get the flu shot every year.
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    Originally Posted by soaponarope1 View Post
    Actually not even close. There's no vaccine for the vulnerable population. I'd expect any seasonal flu that had no vaccine to similarly overrun our hospitals.

    This is literally a seasonal flu that we are attempting to stop by quarantining everyone. It's not dangerous unless you're 60+ with diabetes and congestive heart failure.

    Have the unhealthy and old stay home until a vaccine is available, like we have them get the flu shot every year.
    Literally a seasonal flu

    Literally a seasonal flu

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    You either don’t know what the word literally means, or don’t understand that an influenza virus is not a coronavirus.
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    A 20 minute podcast by a nurse in our neighborhood who volunteered to go to NYC and treat patients. If you want a real frontline report, this is one.

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    Originally Posted by soaponarope1 View Post
    Actually not even close. There's no vaccine for the vulnerable population. I'd expect any seasonal flu that had no vaccine to similarly overrun our hospitals. Our hospitals are built to treat the known, not the unknown.

    This is literally a seasonal flu that we are attempting to stop by quarantining everyone. It's not dangerous unless you're 60+ with diabetes and congestive heart failure.

    Have the unhealthy and old stay home until a vaccine is available, like we have them get the flu shot every year.
    I suggest you read the ****ing news.

    There are multiple reports of healthy, fit young adults with zero prexisting conditions getting put in ICU or dying because their immune systems overreact to the virus and hospitals dont know what to do about it. It's literally a coin flip as to how someones body might react.
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    Originally Posted by metroins View Post
    A 20 minute podcast by a nurse in our neighborhood who volunteered to go to NYC and treat patients. If you want a real frontline report, this is one.

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    Originally Posted by Kane_89 View Post
    I suggest you read the ****ing news.

    There are multiple reports of healthy, fit young adults with zero prexisting conditions getting put in ICU or dying because their immune systems overreact to the virus and hospitals dont know what to do about it. It's literally a coin flip as to how someones body might react.

    No...no it’s not.

    You say “read the news” as if the news is an indicator of real life. Between Feb. 1st and April 11th, in the US, there were 129 deaths of people under 35 years old from COVID-19.

    Guess how many influenza deaths there were during that time frame in that same age group? 416

    It’s not a coin flip by any means. It’s largely affecting older people. It’s largely affecting people with poor health. The media will cling to any story about a young person being seriously affected by Corona and write about it because they know it will get clicks.
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    Originally Posted by Blasting View Post
    No...no it’s not.

    You say “read the news” as if the news is an indicator of real life. Between Feb. 1st and April 11th, in the US, there were 129 deaths of people under 35 years old from COVID-19.

    Guess how many influenza deaths there were during that time frame in that same age group? 416

    It’s not a coin flip by any means. It’s largely affecting older people. It’s largely affecting people with poor health. The media will cling to any story about a young person being seriously affected by Corona and write about it because they know it will get clicks.
    You read some of the post on here you would think it's a coin flip on your survival. We are sitting at the worst a 3% death rate, reality is around .37. This includes the elderly and people with serious pre existing conditions.

    The truly scary part is the infection rate and the fact no one really seems to care where this came from. If China has something worse in their back pocket we are screwed. We have seen the complete breakdown of our healthcare system with a virus like this. No one is actually making money in a pandemic, atleast not the people on the front lines and the people doing testing. We are about to see a big "crunch" on our system and no one knows how it will fall .
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    Originally Posted by chalup View Post
    You read some of the post on here you would think it's a coin flip on your survival. We are sitting at the worst a 3% death rate, reality is around .37. This includes the elderly and people with serious pre existing conditions.

    The truly scary part is the infection rate and the fact no one really seems to care where this came from. If China has something worse in their back pocket we are screwed. We have seen the complete breakdown of our healthcare system with a virus like this. No one is actually making money in a pandemic, atleast not the people on the front lines and the people doing testing. We are about to see a big "crunch" on our system and no one knows how it will fall .
    I don't know about a complete breakdown. Hospitals across the country literally laying off nurses right now. NYC is completely fukked, but we are nowhere near hitting capacity anywhere else.
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    Originally Posted by Kane_89 View Post
    I suggest you read the ****ing news.

    There are multiple reports of healthy, fit young adults with zero prexisting conditions getting put in ICU or dying because their immune systems overreact to the virus and hospitals dont know what to do about it. It's literally a coin flip as to how someones body might react.
    Coin flips don't have a 99.8% chance of landing on the survival side. What a ridiculous comment.
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    So what are the survival rate of people 60 years old and up who gets this? Pre existing conditions or not... just in general. Anyone got data?
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    Originally Posted by Johnez View Post
    I don't know about a complete breakdown. Hospitals across the country literally laying off nurses right now. NYC is completely fukked, but we are nowhere near hitting capacity anywhere else.
    Not all nurses are the same. They are clearly the ones specialising in the non essential areas of the hospital

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    Originally Posted by ChristmasFnatic View Post
    So what are the survival rate of people 60 years old and up who gets this? Pre existing conditions or not... just in general. Anyone got data?
    Its really hard to say. Its fair to say the posted numbers on mortality rate are not really accurate due to lack of testing. The numerator on the mortality rate is accurate but the denominator is not.

    There was a link to a study done by Stanford University on the previous page that suggested the ratio of actual cases to reported cases could be off by a factor of up to 50-85X, effectively reducing the mortality rate by that factor. I personally don't have a lot of faith in that study but I do think the number of cases is probably under represented by at least a factor of 10. Now are those cases equally represented by age? Probably not. ie) the mortality rate of young people is probably off by a factor of 20 while 60+ might only be off by a factor of 5.

    TL;DR its impossible to know the statistics unless they are admitted to the hospital. Even then its still a guess.


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    More and more people reporting every day that the virus comes back or reactivates. Reinfection or reactivation is amost confirmed by now. There are thousands of reported cases of people getting "reinfected" THOUSANDS.

    Reminder: Mosquitos can spread the virus in theory (this can have huge implications. Big portions of livestock can get infected, cattle can die and result in world starvation. What are we gonna do? Vaccine every animal on earth? How will the virus effect different animals?)
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    Originally Posted by Johnez View Post
    I don't know about a complete breakdown. Hospitals across the country literally laying off nurses right now. NYC is completely fukked, but we are nowhere near hitting capacity anywhere else.
    I'm not talking about hitting capacity.. I'm saying ALOT of hospitals and offices are making no money so they are laying people off yet now we are supposed to do this mass sustained effort in testing people. Who is going to do that? The hospitals laying people off because they are making no money? It's going to be a huge problem.
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    The fact that some of you don't understand that young, healthy people also die of the flu every year is mind blowing.
    It's rare, but happens. Just like it's rare for COVID-19, but media blasts the **** out of it when it happens and some of you believe hundreds of young, healthy people are just dying from COVID-19 on the daily.
    Still, the HUGE majority of deaths are from those over 60 and/or those with serious pre existing health conditions.
    The same damn groups which are at risk from, you guessed it, the ****ing flu.

    Some of you are convinced this virus was conjured up by satan the way you talk about it the things it supposedly can do.

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