☣️🦠☣️🦠 Coronavirus (COVID-19) Information Thread 🦠☣️🦠☣️

[Farley1324]

the problem with daily updates on infected is it can seem misleading in how fast it is spreading because you have to factor in how many new tests are being done from one day to the next.

As well as the fact that numerous are asymptomatic, so it's not like they very recently developed symptoms and went to the ER. They were probably tested due to being in close proximity to previously determined positive individuals.

You have a good cite/link demonstrating that regular people are being tested solely because they were in proximity to positive individuals? 'cause what I'm seeing, that kind of person isn't even being tested due to lack of tests

[Farley1324]

I understand this situation is serious, but if you look at this vs the swine flu , the swine flu looks much much worse to me. What am I missing, obviously it’s something given the state of the country. Thx

[Farley1324]

what do you mean why are people getting tested? why do you think?

because the media has caused mass hysteria and any with the slightest of a cough or runny nose are running to get tested thinking they have the virus.

...and those people are not able to get a test.

[MEDITATE]

If you honestly believe already tested and proven medicine won't get out if let's say hypothetically some countries just started getting bombarded beyond help then I don't know what to say. 2022, ok. Besides it probably won't be needed for most countries.

I didnt say it wont get out...i said it wont be getting out any time soon...... this is here to stay....i hope i am wrong

How does rain affect this, if at all? Starting to rain a lot where I live.

Depends if peeps will abide by the quarentine regulations...if they do..rain is good...if they dont ..rain is bad

Are you retarded?

If there is already a vaccine / antibiotic out there that is showing positive results on curing this virus, you really think the FDA will wait till 2021 - 2022 to approve it?

smh, if the global population catches wind that there is a cure out there and the FDA won't allow it to the mainstream because of "approvals" there will be mass riots.

FDA doesnt approve a drug until its been tested for atleast 6 to 12 month with an 85% suceess rate when it comes to clinical trials vs side effects...all the vaccines currently are labeled as investigational drugs

[wake_me]

You have a good cite/link demonstrating that regular people are being tested solely because they were in proximity to positive individuals? 'cause what I'm seeing, that kind of person isn't even being tested due to lack of tests

no regular people that i am aware of. I had only heard of 'celebrity' casesand perhaps assumed it is more wide spread

[Farley1324]

no regular people that i am aware of. I had only heard of 'celebrity' casesand perhaps assumed it is more wide spread

It's not. There are still hardly any tests and unless you are rich, famous, politician, you probably need to be "immediately admitted to hospital even in these conditions" level of sick to get a test

Ignore trump and his feel good "tremoundous amount of tests" and his calm everybody down "we'll have a website up Sunday night [6 days ago] you can go to to schedule a drive up at Walmart" that's just to placate people, it's not reality

Listen to the medical experts. Don't listen to any politician, don't listen to people on here, don't listen to me, listen to Dr Fauci, to the World Health Organization, to Dr Birx. Look at CDC but keep in mind they are semi political and have been ****ing up. And for the love of God don't listen to the mainstream media or rumors

And look at what people DO. Look at what is actually happening (with proof) and what people are doing. Not what they are saying

[jfcundiff]

Looking at the stats from Worldometer again. Death rate from closed cases only rose another 1% up to 11% now. So that has risen over the last week from 7%. From the open cases, serious/critical cases seems to be fluctuating a lot over the past 24 hours between 4 and 5%. I'm assuming it will continue to heavily fluctuate as more and more people test positive.

[MEDITATE]

Looking at the stats from Worldometer again. Death rate from closed cases only rose another 1% up to 11% now. So that has risen over the last week from 7%. From the open cases, serious/critical cases seems to be fluctuating a lot over the past 24 hours between 4 and 5%. I'm assuming it will continue to heavily fluctuate as more and more people test positive.

These are all false numbers...specially iran and china

[WoofieNugget]

Maybe I was misinformed on this, I thought over 500k more were out of work and my friends total portfolio--mind you it's happening many places--has had it's value halved.

But your post is optimistic and great to read.

Anyone with stocks is pretty pooched currently, my girlfriends' RRSP is down something like 30%. But that's temporary and hopefully within a year or two will be back. Anyone investing should be thinking long term anyway.

As for unemployed, yes we have tons not working right now. But again, our government stepped up and is making sure people can at least get something to pay bills. The hardest thing we are going to have to deal with in a couple of weeks is that all schools will be closed and people are going to still have to work, especially health care workers. They are trying to set up daycares for their kids now and our education Minister announced online learning will be going live next week.

[jfcundiff]

These are all false numbers...specially iran and china

I understand that, but just looking at those numbers as a baseline of sorts. If Iran and China gave accurate data, I'd assume the death rate would be closer to 15-20% and the severe cases over 10%.

[2RDEYE]

would u guys pull out investments even with a huge loss? can't decide. I already pulled out my other investments with major losses, because I plan to use it on downpayment next year. but I got one US index which only went down 3k from 20k. seems to have done way better than my other investments. that's why i didn't pull it yet.

So far in Canada we're doing pretty well considering. Our infection rate per million population is far less than any other large country (so far) and our increases started about the same time as the US and France. Some people are saying that it is because of lack of testing but in my province of 14 million people we did 3500 tests yesterday and only had 50 positives. This is going to spike a bit because of delays in testing of course within a couple of days.

Our federal government has already promised income supplements to everyone, including self-employed and people who can't work for up to 3.5 months which is massive as well. They initiated a proper lockdown already including now fining people who break it. People here are being level headed for the most part and working together. I'm kind of proud of my country right now. I think we will be able to get through this better than most.

i know a nurse at a major hospital here... last night she sent everyone a video of her saying that everyone in the hospital is not documented for because the people that document the numbers cant keep up. and yeah she said that there's way too many people in CCU critical care unit. there's no more room in CCU. if that's the case, multiple that by the other hospitals in canada... and so i don't think we could say we're doing well yet. we'll see in a month or another week. i definitely don't think our numbers on the internet are remotely accurate.

[BOZZ]

You have a good cite/link demonstrating that regular people are being tested solely because they were in proximity to positive individuals? 'cause what I'm seeing, that kind of person isn't even being tested due to lack of tests

They're not. The wife and I were in direct contact with someone that recently tested positive and I'm not being tested unless I start to show symptoms. She's being tested because she's a physician.

[Blasting]

would u guys pull out investments even with a huge loss? can't decide. I already pulled out my other investments with major losses, because I plan to use it on downpayment next year. but I got one US index which only went down 3k from 20k. seems to have done way better than my other investments. that's why i didn't pull it yet.



i know a nurse at a major hospital here... last night she sent everyone a video of her saying that everyone in the hospital is not documented for because the people that document the numbers cant keep up. and yeah she said that there's way too many people in CCU critical care unit. there's no more room in CCU. if that's the case, multiple that by the other hospitals in canada... and so i don't think we could say we're doing well yet. we'll see in a month

Why would you pull out right now if you can afford to keep it in? We’re guaranteed to see a rebound in the market. Sooner this thing is over the more likely we’re going to see complete recovery. If you have savings and/or guaranteed income then this is the time to invest.

[BuckNakedinBama]

Covid19 vs. SARS vs. H1N1 2009

IMG]https://i.imgur.com/kGyjMLl.png[/IMG]

IMG]https://i.imgur.com/aJcrY1w.png[/img]

Sauce of graphs?

[2RDEYE]

Why would you pull out right now if you can afford to keep it in? We’re guaranteed to see a rebound in the market. Sooner this thing is over the more likely we’re going to see complete recovery. If you have savings and/or guaranteed income then this is the time to invest.

just thinking about my place next year. if this economy crash doesn't recover in a year, then i wont be able to put a downpayment on the place i've been saving years for. waited 10 years for this condo, stayed in this building just for it. and if they're continuing with the plans then construction will start early 2021 as well as pre-buying. they're demolishing my current home in december if things are continuing, most likely not, but still could.

[MEDITATE]

I understand that, but just looking at those numbers as a baseline of sorts. If Iran and China gave accurate data, I'd assume the death rate would be closer to 15-20% and the severe cases over 10%.

China have over a billion... no way chinas death toll is less than italy...... been out this week that china mobile operator users has dropped by 14 million

[ANumber1]

Why would you pull out right now if you can afford to keep it in? We’re guaranteed to see a rebound in the market. Sooner this thing is over the more likely we’re going to see complete recovery. If you have savings and/or guaranteed income then this is the time to invest.

This is the only answer. Make sure you have a cash cushion, but if you've got a job and are safe, this is the #1 opportunity in your lifetime. I'm upped my 401k contribution and am taking the money I'm saving from not dining out and drinking with friends and pushing it into my Roth IRA early this year.

[BuckNakedinBama]

China have over a billion... no way chinas death toll is less than italy...... been out this week that china mobile operator users has dropped by 14 million

Sauce?

[ltsOgre]

Just bought some stock yesterday. I feel like they are low enough now, at least short term. I still think 10k DOW is much more likely at this point than 30k.

[Farley1324]

Sauce of graphs?

Even better, just look it up yourself. It's easy to verify. It's accurate and it's only going to get much worse

[kenjoshx]

been out this week that china mobile operator users has dropped by 14 million

Just lol

[wake_me]

Why would you pull out right now if you can afford to keep it in? We’re guaranteed to see a rebound in the market. Sooner this thing is over the more likely we’re going to see complete recovery. If you have savings and/or guaranteed income then this is the time to invest.

[2RDEYE]

talked to two italians on a mobile app last night. people in italy. and they both said this, i didn't even ask. they said something like this

"our government lied to us about masks too, wear them, use them, everyone is told to use our masks now, and we are finally wearing them because they provide a physical obstruction to prevent exposure"

they both said their government lied to them about masks. i was just asking what the situation is like over there

[GlennQuagmire]

We dont want scientific facts here. The only fact I need is misc science and everyday bro opinions lol

[Kirra]

So far only old people are dying. The average age of the people dying in Italy is like 75. Yes this is because they aren't getting treatment, but I doubt that we will see a lot of healthy people under 45 dying from this.

[Farley1324]

So far only old people are dying.

Stop lying

And stop pretending that being put into the Intensive Care Unit in serious or critical condition just doesn't count until you die

[2RDEYE]

So far only old people are dying. The average age of the people dying in Italy is like 75. Yes this is because they aren't getting treatment, but I doubt that we will see a lot of healthy people under 45 dying from this.

think the main point is if u have underlying conditions u are at significant risk of death. idk the rate of death with people with underlying conditions though. but i imagine people with asthma or bronchitis would have really high death rate no matter the age

[GlennQuagmire]

So far only old people are dying. The average age of the people dying in Italy is like 75. Yes this is because they aren't getting treatment, but I doubt that we will see a lot of healthy people under 45 dying from this.

Bro even so, hospitals being overrun by old people will fukk everybody. Brb Italy situation atm.

[yklyachkin]

FDA doesnt approve a drug until its been tested for atleast 6 to 12 month with an 85% suceess rate when it comes to clinical trials vs side effects...all the vaccines currently are labeled as investigational drugs

Until there is something better, Plaquenil (HXQ) will be used like water in COVID-19 patients who need it. This is literally what I do in pharma. A drug does NOT have to be FDA approved for a SPECIFIC indication in order to be used for that indication; especially if there was already a sufficient therapeutic window (sufficient efficacy and safety) established in another indication. For example plaquenil - Who the fck is gonna invest ~$40mil to do a Phase 3 just to show that some cheap-ass $30/month generic sorta works? Methotrexate is not FDA approved in psoriatic arthritis yet it is the #1 prescribed systemic medication for psoriatic arthritis. Rituximab is not FDA approved for systemic lupus yet it is the #1 prescribed biologic for systemic lupus. Off-label use in medicine is rampant - there are literally 1000s of similar examples.
Gilead's remdesivir is a different story because it is not FDA-approved for anything and is being utilized in COVID via the compassionate use loophole...so it is still available for patients that need it.

[eod8989]

Just went out for a 15 minute run after being quarantined and sick for the past 10 days