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    Originally Posted by TBO1313 View Post
    The reason I quit playing those games is because they went away from turn based. If I want to play an action game I'll play a proper one not some hybrid. FF12 and 13 were bad enough and then when I saw what 15 was like I just couldn't
    10 probably had my favorite combat. 12 was ok, but felt too much like a single player MMO. 13 combat was ass. Pure ass. Hated it. 15 was ok. Liked it more than 12, but I still missed turn based.

    Hell, turn based is part of what JRPG's unique. I don't like when they try to become these weird action game/rpg hybrids. We already have western RPG's for that.
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    Lololol. Barretts VA is horrible (its too late to recast, but its really bad). Other than that, i enjoyed it.


    Still ain't getting it, though. I'm going to wait for the complete game before i do it, or atleast wait until this game is 10/15 bucks.

    This story goes to end of Midgar. Id imagine 2 goes up until Reds home or Saucer? 3rd be up until the major spoilery moment near bone village. 4th be rest? The original game was like 40+ hours. Midgar was like 3 hours of that
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    Originally Posted by nettripper View Post
    I was expecting to dedicate couple hours days to playing the demo seeing what happens leveling up extra high.....nope

    Is this how the game will be ? pre-scripted fights? Character walks to certain point and activates enemies so no more random encounters over and over and no more ability to level up?

    Basically super scripted as in the developers know and have built the game like a recipe and only allowed so many enemies for character exp growth and will be at power level they designate by this point and time of the game
    lol what? You're complaining about not being able to grind levels in a demo? is this real life?

    Demo's have always been this way, what demo have you played where you get to spend hours and hours progressing and seeing a ton of depth?
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    Originally Posted by E-Go View Post
    Lololol. Barretts VA is horrible (its too late to recast, but its really bad). Other than that, i enjoyed it.


    Still ain't getting it, though. I'm going to wait for the complete game before i do it, or atleast wait until this game is 10/15 bucks.

    This story goes to end of Midgar. Id imagine 2 goes up until Reds home or Saucer? 3rd be up until the major spoilery moment near bone village. 4th be rest? The original game was like 40+ hours. Midgar was like 3 hours of that
    Barret's VA is literally the best out of all the characters. If you ever actually played the original, you'd know he was always over the top with an attitude in a slightly cheesy way.
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    Originally Posted by Muzzlrpress View Post
    10 probably had my favorite combat. 12 was ok, but felt too much like a single player MMO. 13 combat was ass. Pure ass. Hated it. 15 was ok. Liked it more than 12, but I still missed turn based.

    Hell, turn based is part of what JRPG's unique. I don't like when they try to become these weird action game/rpg hybrids. We already have western RPG's for that.
    Exactly. 10 will always be my favorite. That pure turn based combat was the best. My 2nd favorite was probably 8 with the GFs with 7 pretty close behind 8. X-2s combat wasn't great but not bad either the problem with that one was that it was so cringy I'd lose hours of progress yanking the playstation cord out of the wall if I heard someone coming up the stairs I was so scared someone would catch me playing that game ded srs I would have smashed my PS with a hammer before I suffered the shame of letting someone see me play that game.

    I didn't like 12's combat at all but really liked the story. It felt like after I set up the gambits the game just played itself. Everyone hated on 13 for being a hallway game but that aspect didnt even bother me, it was the terrible combat system. Decided not to play 15 after they leaned so hard into the 13 style combat system
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    13's system was just an upgraded active turn system or i forget what it's called, with the added paradigm shift mechanic. i thought it was good. what mostly sucked hard about ff13 was everything except lightning
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    Originally Posted by TBO1313 View Post
    Exactly. 10 will always be my favorite. That pure turn based combat was the best. My 2nd favorite was probably 8 with the GFs with 7 pretty close behind 8. X-2s combat wasn't great but not bad either the problem with that one was that it was so cringy I'd lose hours of progress yanking the playstation cord out of the wall if I heard someone coming up the stairs I was so scared someone would catch me playing that game ded srs I would have smashed my PS with a hammer before I suffered the shame of letting someone see me play that game.

    I didn't like 12's combat at all but really liked the story. It felt like after I set up the gambits the game just played itself. Everyone hated on 13 for being a hallway game but that aspect didnt even bother me, it was the terrible combat system. Decided not to play 15 after they leaned so hard into the 13 style combat system
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    You guys didnt like 15s combat system? I mean I get that it was turn based but I thoroughly enjoyed the system from 15.
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    I don’t care what anyone says. I’m still waiting for a FF13 collection to come to PS4 or PS5 now.
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    Originally Posted by 2RDEYE View Post
    13's system was just an upgraded active turn system or i forget what it's called, with the added paradigm shift mechanic. i thought it was good. what mostly sucked hard about ff13 was everything except lightning
    If I remember correctly the way 13s system worked was similar to X-2s except I didn't like it as much. I also hated the fact that it couldn't wrap up the story and had 2 more games that I never played.

    In FF7 I beat all the bosses except for Ruby and Emerald weapons and got all the summons, fuk breeding chocobo btw

    In FF8 I did all the bosses except for Omega Weapon and got all the GFs

    In FF9 I just beat the game without doing a bunch of the side quests. I thought the main character having a tail was weird as fuk

    In FFX I beat everything and I mean everything. I maxed everyone's sphere grid, all ultimate weapons and all the calm lands bosses

    In FF X-2 I did everything including the 99 inferno levels

    In FF12 I beat everything except for the Omega X13 mark. After I beat the wyvern with a trillion HP just by sitting there watching my characters fight for hours I was done

    In FF13 I just straight beat the game without doing a ton of side quests.

    I spent a ton of time on those games and maybe someday I'll give 15 a shot or this remake
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    Originally Posted by ohiostate124 View Post
    I don’t care what anyone says. I’m still waiting for a FF13 collection to come to PS4 or PS5 now.
    Did I screw up by not playing the 2nd two? I heard one of them had a time limit or some such chit and just couldn't be bothered.
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    At 6:40 is what I’m talking about where anytime in the game you’re running around and the battle music starts and the screen freezes and you know it’s battle time

    Pretty sure if somebody had wanted to they could of leveled and went and here it is


    Not saying I expected to go anywhere outside of this first chapter but was curious if could level up and see if they left stuff in like next limit break levels

    (Or wait and see what the super nerds do and if they try to look at any code left in the demo like how they were able to see on destiny 1 lots of stuff they held back on....I know it was the real game they dissected but I don’t know what demos can be dissected down to)

    If the fights are scripted and no random then as I said before that sucks and they give the illusion of playing a rpg but they already know what level you will be cause it’s all measured out

    So does anybody know if random fights will be there or not?

    Freaking reddit

    https://www.reddit.com/r/FFVIIRemake...r_progression/

    So I guess side quests? Grinding power leveling materia up was part of the fun

    https://www.reddit.com/r/FFVIIRemake...ateria_system/

    Just more info for anybody who had thoughts questions like me
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    Originally Posted by Lord_Lemon View Post
    Barret's VA is literally the best out of all the characters. If you ever actually played the original, you'd know he was always over the top with an attitude in a slightly cheesy way.
    Lol @ "if you ever played it" response. It doesnt change the fact his VA is horrendous and its not acceptable when he's a lead character of the game. If hes a side character, itd be tolerable. If it was Cid, ok. Cids not a central character to the story, Barrett is and that is atrocious
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    Originally Posted by nettripper View Post


    At 6:40 is what I’m talking about where anytime in the game you’re running around and the battle music starts and the screen freezes and you know it’s battle time

    Pretty sure if somebody had wanted to they could of leveled and went and here it is


    Not saying I expected to go anywhere outside of this first chapter but was curious if could level up and see if they left stuff in like next limit break levels

    (Or wait and see what the super nerds do and if they try to look at any code left in the demo like how they were able to see on destiny 1 lots of stuff they held back on....I know it was the real game they dissected but I don’t know what demos can be dissected down to)

    If the fights are scripted and no random then as I said before that sucks and they give the illusion of playing a rpg but they already know what level you will be cause it’s all measured out

    So does anybody know if random fights will be there or not?

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    So I guess side quests? Grinding power leveling materia up was part of the fun

    https://www.reddit.com/r/FFVIIRemake...ateria_system/

    Just more info for anybody who had thoughts questions like me
    In FF7, there were random fights in about half of Midgar. Sections like going to Aeriths house or the train yard had randoms. The cities didn't.
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    Originally Posted by TBO1313 View Post
    Did I screw up by not playing the 2nd two? I heard one of them had a time limit or some such chit and just couldn't be bothered.
    The 3rd is the only one that has a time mechanic. I never actually played that one but i want to. The 2nd is similar to the first combat wise but has a pokemon element where your third party member are monsters that you can get by defeating them. The monsters have different roles so you make a team of them to rotate out in the third spot depending on what you need. You can level them up and teach them a bunch of different traits that make them stronger.
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    Originally Posted by Xinroth View Post
    ****ing lold

    finished that game 6 times. 0 regrets.
    The combat was really fun but boy oh boy that storyline with concerts and chit was rough lol

    Did you beat the Paragon boss at the bottom of the dungeon? That was a fun fight
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    Originally Posted by E-Go View Post
    In FF7, there were random fights in about half of Midgar. Sections like going to Aeriths house or the train yard had randoms. The cities didn't.

    Could of put more links from searching reddit but stopped

    The key word I’ve been reminded of after all my searching and why I stopped buying final fantasy games after 12 is

    LINEAR

    side scrolling game basically lol no exploring

    Final fantasy went to you go from point A to Z and can’t delineate from the path or MMO pay to play final fantasies which was a big no thank you

    it’s only a demo so will hold out hope for the main game but if it’s an illusion of free will and we all are going to be the exact same every one of our play through cause there’s a set predetermined amount of exp then that’s very lame

    Or if there’s a level reset and congrats everybody is a winner we all get start on same level for next section we buy there’s no incentive for putting hours into it and just a speed through cause leveling isn’t a thing or doesn’t matter
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    The key word I’ve been reminded of after all my searching and why I stopped buying final fantasy games after 12 is

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    side scrolling game basically lol no exploring

    Final fantasy went to you go from point A to Z and can’t delineate from the path or MMO pay to play final fantasies which was a big no thank you

    it’s only a demo so will hold out hope for the main game but if it’s an illusion of free will and we all are going to be the exact same every one of our play through cause there’s a set predetermined amount of exp then that’s very lame

    Or if there’s a level reset and congrats everybody is a winner we all get start on same level for next section we buy there’s no incentive for putting hours into it and just a speed through cause leveling isn’t a thing or doesn’t matter
    What's the last final fantasy you played that didnt have random encounters? I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill here brah.
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    Originally Posted by BearyManilowe View Post
    What's the last final fantasy you played that didnt have random encounters? I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill here brah.
    The last FF I ever played was 12 and was fun sorta reminded me of tactics

    13 I heard was no exploring and described to me as a almost a side scrolling type game all you can do is go the path they present you

    Then there was MMO Final Fantasies

    just got done watching a clip of ff15 and was reminded of another thing....the gay k-pop looking characters they came up with for more reasons to dislike future direction of FF after 12



    Back to what you said tho I always expected random encounters and the ability to power level grind in an RPG

    And looks like ff7r will be my “last FF you purchased with no random encounters” from possible looks of it
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    never played any ff games, is it worth getting into?
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    Originally Posted by TBO1313 View Post
    Did I screw up by not playing the 2nd two? I heard one of them had a time limit or some such chit and just couldn't be bothered.
    the game was pretty much wrapped up in the first game. the second was **** and the third was just fanboy/girl material for lightning

    lightning deserved an entirely different series

    i actually liked lightning returns because i'm a fanboy of lightning and she's got cool costumes but her games are **** lol. and yeah u would definitely hate the combat system in lightning returns



    deal with it

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    what pisses me off is they are releasing it in parts. idk how long we will have to wait for the others. also, if someone said the first part only goes up to first 3 hours from the original game, then how many hours can we expect in episode 1 even with the bonus stuff it still seems very short for $60 game.
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    Originally Posted by conics View Post
    what pisses me off is they are releasing it in parts. idk how long we will have to wait for the others. also, if someone said the first part only goes up to first 3 hours from the original game, then how many hours can we expect in episode 1 even with the bonus stuff it still seems very short for $60 game.
    I mean so many games are pretty much like this with expansions and DLC nowadays. In most cases if you can wait on a game you can get it for cheaper while getting the whole thing.
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    Originally Posted by conics View Post
    what pisses me off is they are releasing it in parts. idk how long we will have to wait for the others. also, if someone said the first part only goes up to first 3 hours from the original game, then how many hours can we expect in episode 1 even with the bonus stuff it still seems very short for $60 game.
    Yeah not being able to finish the entire story with the first game and having to wait for TWO other releases which would be probably at least a year apart is very annoying
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    Yeah not being able to finish the entire story with the first game and having to wait for TWO other releases which would be probably at least a year apart is very annoying
    probably will be dlc expansions after like they did with ff15 lol
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    aint nobody want turn based anymore. way too slow. u can just play the original if u want the original experience. turn based is only good in strategy and isometric rpgs now.
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    Just played the demo. I don't really play this type of game and never played the original so controlling multiple characters will take some getting used to. Fun overall. Story did draw me in so looking forward to the full game. Graphics and animation were kinda disappointing though.
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