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    Are 20+ rep deadlifts ok?

    I only have 265lbs at my house


    cant go to the gym yet because its far away and dont have a car


    any benefits???


    If I do 265lbsx20 its like doing 405lbs right?
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    You're supposed to multiply the reps and weight, so it's more like lifting 4050 lbs. That's pretty strong.
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    i don't think it's inherently bad unless your form just completely falls off, but could be potentially very difficult to recover from and may lead to overuse injuries and stuff if doing multiple sets.

    however you can do deadlift variations which force you to lighten up the weight and make it harder. I.e paused deadlifts, romanian deadlifts, deficit deadlifts, stiff-leg deadlifts, etc.

    It's not quite like doing 405. Doing a bunch of 20+ rep sets isn't a guarantee you can lift a certain amount of weight for a one rep max. but you can still pack on muscle.
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    Originally Posted by GeneralSerpant View Post
    You're supposed to multiply the reps and weight, so it's more like lifting 4050 lbs. That's pretty strong.
    yeah I wish lol
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    Originally Posted by sooby View Post
    i don't think it's inherently bad unless your form just completely falls off, but could be potentially very difficult to recover from and may lead to overuse injuries and stuff if doing multiple sets.

    however you can do deadlift variations which force you to lighten up the weight and make it harder. I.e paused deadlifts, romanian deadlifts, deficit deadlifts, stiff-leg deadlifts, etc.

    It's not quite like doing 405. Doing a bunch of 20+ rep sets isn't a guarantee you can lift a certain amount of weight for a one rep max. but you can still pack on muscle.
    thank you for the advice bro
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    Originally Posted by brutus0 View Post

    If I do 265lbsx20 its like doing 405lbs right?
    Nope. Those 1RM calculaltions dont apply to high rep sets. I can do about 70 pushups, doesnt mean I could do one push up with 400 pounds on my back.

    Most high rep sets of deadlifts lead to form breakdown, which is a bad thing.

    YOu need to prefatigue. So maybe that means you front squat 225 for as many reps as you can, then as fast as you can reset it on teh floor with 265.

    Also look int buying bands or chains.

    Also look into craigslist/ebay/faebook etc for people selling plates.
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    Originally Posted by brutus0 View Post
    I only have 265lbs at my house


    cant go to the gym yet because its far away and dont have a car


    any benefits???


    If I do 265lbsx20 its like doing 405lbs right?
    whats your math on that
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    Originally Posted by snailsrus View Post
    whats your math on that
    265x20 equates to a one rep max of 440lbs on strengthlevel.com
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    Originally Posted by brutus0 View Post
    265x20 equates to a one rep max of 440lbs on strengthlevel.com
    1rm calculators are unreliable past 3 reps. More so with every rep..

    Utterly pointless for a set of 20.

    Why don't you start doing pause and deficit deadlifts, make them harder
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    Originally Posted by brutus0 View Post
    265x20 equates to a one rep max of 440lbs on strengthlevel.com
    A true 1rm is a snapshot of a single repetition (obviously) done at a single point of time. The further you stray from 1 rep and from that point of time, the less valid an estimate of 1rm becomes.
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    Originally Posted by brutus0 View Post
    265x20 equates to a one rep max of 440lbs on strengthlevel.com
    I can probably do 315 for 20, I sure as hell aint pulling 525 lbs though. Probably a 440-450 at my absolute peak. That's around an 80 lb difference. So that's the level of inaccuracy you are dealing with here.
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    I'm actually curious to try doing a set of 20 just to see what it feels like. I plan to start doing this with squats and I can play with it with deadlifts as well. I imagine it'll fatigue me less then going heavy.

    But I digress. As mentioned above, buy more weights or do harder variations.
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    No.
    Those calculators are just estimates and for the most part work better for novice lifters.
    Doing 20 reps means you'll get good at doing reps not a one rep max.
    Most powerlifters stay in the 1-5 rep range when working towards a one rep max.
    Also the bad thing about reps is being able to keep good technique on every rep.
    Usually technique starts to get worse toward the end of a high rep set and that can lead to an injury.
    For a bodybuilder high rep sets are used to develop muscle specifically the lumbar/erectors of the low back not really a strength movement for that purpose.
    So get some more weight.
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    Just did 265x20 at the end of my deadlift workout and it was pretty tough. Much harder than a 405 single!
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    15 and beyond becomes an exercise in stamina, and i've actually had decent experiences using the range now and then. I like to periodically change the range to train different functions, so I don't think just because it's a deadlift or squat that it has to be done in any set number by default. You can change it around to suit your goals. Just take special care, as high rep ranges tend to suffer from the drawback of form breakdown. It takes some getting used to, for sure.
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    Very bad idea unless you're advanced enough to keep perfect form for every rep.

    Better to do RDL or rack pulls for higher reps than conventional pulling imo
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