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    This is like the progenitor of speed metal.

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    Originally Posted by rollerball View Post
    This is like the progenitor of speed metal.

    Released the same month in 1977 on the same record label.

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    Originally Posted by rollerball View Post
    This is like the progenitor of speed metal.

    Amazing what these guys were doing in a time before shredding was a thing and they were around 20 something ...
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    Originally Posted by Dominik View Post
    Released the same month in 1977 on the same record label.

    Definitely a lot of modern metal precursors there, particular the drums and the dual-guitars. In terms of tight speed though DiMeola thoroughly leaves them in the dust and some of the passages sound like legit modern shred passages which is crazy for 1977.
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    Originally Posted by brosapiens View Post
    Amazing what these guys were doing in a time before shredding was a thing and they were around 20 something ...
    Listen to stuff like Ten Years After - Love to Change the World and hear Alvin Lee shredding all over the background in the last 3rd of the song
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    I guess this is the closest thing to a Vai-Satriani collaboration.

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    Originally Posted by Dominik View Post
    I guess this is the closest thing to a Vai-Satriani collaboration.

    Steve looking straight out of an episode of Miami Vice.

    Is Steve Vai trying to impersonate DrDisrespect?
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    Damn this thing sounds incredible. Wish they still made them.

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    Can anybody help me identify a guitar model I saw in a store about a year ago?

    It was an Ibanez with a dark blue/green/coral transparent finish
    Fairly certain it had an EMG 81 in the bridge position and a different EMG with a gold EMG logo in the neck position
    Gold hardware and was around 1000 bucks canadian

    Looked online and on the ibanez website to no avail
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    Originally Posted by Ripper908 View Post
    Can anybody help me identify a guitar model I saw in a store about a year ago?

    It was an Ibanez with a dark blue/green/coral transparent finish
    Fairly certain it had an EMG 81 in the bridge position and a different EMG with a gold EMG logo in the neck position
    Gold hardware and was around 1000 bucks canadian

    Looked online and on the ibanez website to no avail
    EMG's are probably aftermarket, since the pickups come stock with matching colors. Makes it harder to ID the model without other deetz.

    Something like this? RG420HPAH



    or this

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    Originally Posted by Dominik View Post
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    thats the one

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    Update: Ended up going back to the store and they still had it here lol haggled them down to 900 canadian all in. Very pleased with how it sounds even though my playing definitely needs some work
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    if you all were to start playing today, what route would you take as far as economical gear/where should i learn from? really want to start learning guitar in the new year. sorry if that info is itt somewhere
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    Originally Posted by Ripper908 View Post
    Update: Ended up going back to the store and they still had it here lol haggled them down to 900 canadian all in. Very pleased with how it sounds even though my playing definitely needs some work
    That's awesome. Couldn't see any for sale online. Production stopped in 2015 and they also made 7 and 8 string versions. Big fan of ebony with no inlays.

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    if you all were to start playing today, what route would you take as far as economical gear/where should i learn from? really want to start learning guitar in the new year. sorry if that info is itt somewhere
    You don't need to spend a lot on a guitar but I'd pay for a decent setup so it's easy to play. Nothing worse than a guitar that's buzzing or the action is too high when you're still trying to get the basics down. I'd get an entry level audio interface, some speakers, and try one of those Neural DSP apps for amp tones and effects.



    As for learning there's a lot of free content out there. I'd start with learning a few easy songs you like so you can at least see the progress you're making before you focus on technique and theory. I started out playing AC/DC and Metallica with a drummer at school which was great because I didn't do any lead/solo stuff for the first year. I just focused on playing riffs and that laid a good foundation.
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    I started a build thread. I should have probably just stuck it in here, but I didn’t want to hog this thread.

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    Originally Posted by gtrzrus View Post
    I started a build thread. I should have probably just stuck it in here, but I didn’t want to hog this thread.

    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...post1617883801
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    Originally Posted by Ripper908 View Post
    thats the one

    repped

    Update: Ended up going back to the store and they still had it here lol haggled them down to 900 canadian all in. Very pleased with how it sounds even though my playing definitely needs some work
    Happy NGD dude!

    Those Gibraltar II bridges are really comfortable to play.

    Like Dominik said, a good set up with new strings etc would be a good idea, especially if its been sat in the store for a while.

    I started a build thread. I should have probably just stuck it in here, but I didn’t want to hog this thread.

    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...post1617883801
    That's awesome! Looking forward to seeing the finished product.
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    Originally Posted by rollerball View Post
    Yngwie was just a better guitarist before his car wreck.
    This is him around 17 or 18, the clarity and articulation is just off the charts. He hasn't sounded this good in decades.

    The clarity loss between Trilogy and Odyssey is so distinct. He used a phaser that entire album to try and hide it imo.

    Then he had to drink a case of Heineken every single day in the 90s and became fat and bloated. I miss Marching Out 1985 cocaine Yngwie.
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    The clarity loss between Trilogy and Odyssey is so distinct. He used a phaser that entire album to try and hide it imo.

    Then he had to drink a case of Heineken every single day in the 90s and became fat and bloated. I miss Marching Out 1985 cocaine Yngwie.
    Alchemy to me was his last good album. That album has awesome production, really tough neoclassical style, incredibly melodic lyrical hooks and some just insane YJ cliche moments.

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    Thanks Brah!
    How did you get in to building your own guitars?

    I saw in your other thread that you work in IT - do you have a background in woodwork? I'd be interested to understand the process you went through. I have maximum respect for craftsmen.
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    Originally Posted by terrorgunt View Post
    The clarity loss between Trilogy and Odyssey is so distinct. He used a phaser that entire album to try and hide it imo.

    Then he had to drink a case of Heineken every single day in the 90s and became fat and bloated. I miss Marching Out 1985 cocaine Yngwie.
    I heard Marching Out for the 1st time a month ago. Was a truly out of this world experience. His playing used to be on a completely different level
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    I started a build thread. I should have probably just stuck it in here, but I didn’t want to hog this thread.

    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...post1617883801
    That's cool of you to help out your SIL like that. How did you get started with doing your own builds? Did you have a background in woodworking/electronics beforehand? Making pickups is impressive as well.

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    if you all were to start playing today, what route would you take as far as economical gear/where should i learn from? really want to start learning guitar in the new year. sorry if that info is itt somewhere
    I've been playing for two years now and can play some simple metal songs (Sabbath, Ghost, etc.) and make my way through their solos. I'm not very experienced is what I'm trying to say but my advice is to just dive in. I think it's simplistic but just buy a guitar, get it set up like Dom mentioned, and start playing simple riffs that you like. That will give you an idea of how the guitar works, introduce you to simple techniques like hammer-ons/slides, help you develop rhythm and just give you a decent foundation to build from. From there, you can start to learn a few scales and some basic theory if you're keen on doing so. What has worked for me is just learning progressively more difficult stuff over the past two years and developing my skills slowly. If you have the means, an instructor could really help you. Ultimately, I think guitar is like lifting or any other skill in that you don't need the best program, coaching/instruction or anything fancy; all you need to do is start and stick with it for the long haul. I hope this helps.
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    if you all were to start playing today, what route would you take as far as economical gear/where should i learn from? really want to start learning guitar in the new year. sorry if that info is itt somewhere
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    I heard Marching Out for the 1st time a month ago. Was a truly out of this world experience. His playing used to be on a completely different level
    90s' EP called "I Can't Wait" - check the solo in the title track. It has everything that ever defined Yngwie.
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    Been trying pretty hard over the past few weeks to nail this tappity-tap song:



    Any tips for being able to tap fast on time outside of simply ramping up the speed gradually? The section at 2:06 in particular has been trouble because of the chords inserted in the middle of the tapping, I feel like my hands just don't move fast enough lol

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    Originally Posted by VTheKing View Post
    Been trying pretty hard over the past few weeks to nail this tappity-tap song:



    Any tips for being able to tap fast on time outside of simply ramping up the speed gradually? The section at 2:06 in particular has been trouble because of the chords inserted in the middle of the tapping, I feel like my hands just don't move fast enough lol

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    Can you tap at that speed using an isolated scale? What's the particular issue, getting the right hand to go from strumming to tapping quickly? The left hand changing chords quickly?

    Most people don't know that they should anchor their right hand on the neck (bass strings)/body of the guitar for stability when tapping. This makes it easy to quickly set up a tap. Of course tap with your right hand middle finger so you don't have a pick switch issue. Post a vid of you playing it for more specific advice.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Can you tap at that speed using an isolated scale? What's the particular issue, getting the right hand to go from strumming to tapping quickly? The left hand changing chords quickly?

    Most people don't know that they should anchor their right hand on the neck (bass strings)/body of the guitar for stability when tapping. This makes it easy to quickly set up a tap. Of course tap with your right hand middle finger so you don't have a pick switch issue. Post a vid of you playing it for more specific advice.
    the anchoring thing might be it, I kinda wail my hands when I switch between picking and tapping, so my right hand is off the guitar altogether while I tap. just tried anchoring out for a bit and it does help a lot with control, as well as muting the preceding chords. gonna have to practice a bit different than I have but seems like it'll be worth it. if I still struggle after putting in time tho I can post my playing.

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    Originally Posted by VTheKing View Post
    the anchoring thing might be it, I kinda wail my hands when I switch between picking and tapping, so my right hand is off the guitar altogether while I tap. just tried anchoring out for a bit and it does help a lot with control, as well as muting the preceding chords. gonna have to practice a bit different than I have but seems like it'll be worth it. if I still struggle after putting in time tho I can post my playing.

    thanks for the help!
    Yeah, you want your right hand anchored because it creates stability and it mutes the bass strings while you're tapping on the high strings. When you're tapping on the bass strings, the right hand is anchored onto the body and you're muting the high strings with your left hand.

    If you're tapping on low fret numbers, where there is no body to anchor onto, say the 7th fret with your right hand, then you anchor strictly on the neck's bass strings (with your forearm on the body). If you're tapping on the bass strings on low frets where there is no neck to anchor onto, then you anchor with your right hand pinky on the side on the neck of the treble strings while muting the strings with your left hand.

    Sometimes it's just best to learn to tap at the 7th fret on all strings first because the anchoring techniques used there will be the same when you tap at the 17th fret, so it's just best to learn where there's less to anchor onto so it's super easy when you also have the body to also support your hand.
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