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Thread: Corona
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03-26-2020, 11:31 AM #451Air Force Veteran 1976 - 1999 - Cannabis Enthusiast since the 1960's
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I use the gender neutral pronouns "Fukker/Fukkers" a lot.
****** I don't always agree with the memes I post ******
I tell it like it is, if you want smoke blown up your ass or something sugar coated. I suggest you get a Hooker and a powdered donut.
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03-26-2020, 11:42 AM #452
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With the market you have to understand that reactions are nearly always forward looking. Earlier crashing was due to the unemployment numbers they had already anticipated. Today's rise is related to the likelihood that the stimulus bill is going to pass. Also, the market and the economy are not the same thing though they often tend to be correlated. Our system is the worst one imaginable, except everything else we've ever tried.
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03-26-2020, 12:07 PM #453
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03-26-2020, 03:04 PM #457
Work from home is encouraged by our top management. Only come in if absolutely necessary.
Suits me. I wasn't well this week. Phlegm and back pain and general feeling as if run over by a bus.
By staying home I can recover without sick pay.
Life changed for the time being. Not going to yoga class.
Holiday in May cancelled.Cycling, walking, swimming.
No car.
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03-26-2020, 03:07 PM #458
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03-26-2020, 04:29 PM #460
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It's complicated because it's nearly always a combination of a political system and an economic system, they're not really separable. Generally though here's what we've tried:
Self sufficiency (I raised my own chickens but didn't manage to do enough because I'm too damn busy trying not to die)
Barter (How many hides do you want for those chickens? Wait, how do we make change again?)
Raiding (Give me your chickens, it would be a shame if something terrible happened to your nice village)
Feudalism (Those chickens all belong to me, keep them well, I'll let you live and maybe let you have one now and then)
Capitalism (I own these chickens and I'll sell you one if you have some money, otherwise sod off, dying of starvation is your problem)
Socialism (Chicken production is owned and managed by the state who is bad at raising chickens, promises you many chickens, delivers few and those are small and not very tasty)
Some mixture of the above.
Our best results have come from mixed economies and we argue a lot about the appropriate mix because it's hard to be happy when you're mixing two or more things that each have their own problems. I'd be interested in something new, but everything I've read is mostly based on hope, mis-understanding of human nature and unicorns. In the mean time we muddle through with what we have.
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03-26-2020, 06:47 PM #461
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03-26-2020, 07:20 PM #462
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I agree with most of this, my quibbles are with details and not the essence. The size and complexity of society today is beyond what any population in history has ever faced, and old solutions are narrow at best, totally disastrous at worst. It's one of the things we should be sciencing the hell out of, but we haven't done that either.
It would help, though, if we had a population and leadership that actually believes in science.“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”
-Voltaire
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03-27-2020, 02:07 AM #463
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03-27-2020, 02:09 AM #464
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03-27-2020, 02:11 AM #465
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Blew a couple of my employees minds at work the other night as we were discussing various politicians and other famous folks and they know I support Trump, told them I despise Rudy Giuliani, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Newt Gingrich, etc. At home I voted for a lesbian democratic senator and have in past voted for Bill Clinton, and even voted for john Kerry."You know that little thing in your head that keeps you from saying things you shouldn't? Yeah, well, I don't have one of those."
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03-27-2020, 02:12 AM #466
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A lot of people change/evolve over their lives, I was bigtime democrat when younger and would never ever vote for anyone republican, slowly went right, then drifted back left and now back just to the right of center.
I don't know a single person I golf with who doesn't cheat at golf and I know a lot of them. In addition that entire grab em by the pussy thing is taken the wrong way. Trump never said he did that, he said you could...big difference and it's true and everyone knows it. You enter a bar or club and grab some woman like that and you are going to jail but a famous celebrity or some Rockstar does it and the woman will giggle and feel flattered. Look at all the damn groupies the bands still have."You know that little thing in your head that keeps you from saying things you shouldn't? Yeah, well, I don't have one of those."
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03-27-2020, 03:44 AM #467
Do you feel Lucky Punk
Air Force Veteran 1976 - 1999 - Cannabis Enthusiast since the 1960's
Retired at 40 Crew - Social distancing expert - Living the Dream
I use the gender neutral pronouns "Fukker/Fukkers" a lot.
****** I don't always agree with the memes I post ******
I tell it like it is, if you want smoke blown up your ass or something sugar coated. I suggest you get a Hooker and a powdered donut.
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03-27-2020, 04:26 AM #468
Boris Johnson tested positive
@BorisJohnson
Over the last 24 hours I have developed mild symptoms and tested positive for coronavirus.
I am now self-isolating, but I will continue to lead the government’s response via video-conference as we fight this virus.
Together we will beat this.Air Force Veteran 1976 - 1999 - Cannabis Enthusiast since the 1960's
Retired at 40 Crew - Social distancing expert - Living the Dream
I use the gender neutral pronouns "Fukker/Fukkers" a lot.
****** I don't always agree with the memes I post ******
I tell it like it is, if you want smoke blown up your ass or something sugar coated. I suggest you get a Hooker and a powdered donut.
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03-27-2020, 06:18 AM #469
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03-27-2020, 06:29 AM #470
Yes, there are people like that and yes we do count differently. I am a little less self-righteous, I suppose. But, I think there are other ways to discuss things without causing an online war like there was a few years ago. Good people who were friends became enemies. Political subjects are usually moved to another section. Where we agree is that we shouldn't talk about politics.
Helping one person may not change the world, but it could change the world for one person.
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03-27-2020, 06:42 AM #471
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03-27-2020, 07:01 AM #473
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I understand that, as I have drifted quite a bit over the span of my life, but my CORE values remain unchanged which do not fit the confines of either party. My point wasn't to impugn the President for changing parties; my point is that his world view, in my opinion, hasn't really changed. It is also my opinion that if he were still wearing his (D) badge, many, if not most of his support on the right would be gone. I'm not saying you are one of them.
I don't know a single person I golf with who doesn't cheat at golf and I know a lot of them. In addition that entire grab em by the pussy thing is taken the wrong way. Trump never said he did that, he said you could...big difference and it's true and everyone knows it. You enter a bar or club and grab some woman like that and you are going to jail but a famous celebrity or some Rockstar does it and the woman will giggle and feel flattered. Look at all the damn groupies the bands still have.
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03-27-2020, 07:13 AM #474
So the president is considering opening things up region by region, relatively soon (Easter).
My question is will you follow his guidelines or the Dr's,given your health and age? This isnt a question based on politics or who is right, but a question based on your own health and family.
I am following Dr. FAUCI all day every day.There is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!
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03-27-2020, 07:17 AM #475
I don't think "band groupies" represent all women.
A few years ago at the height of the "me too" movement, it wasn't until I read an article by Selma Hayek about her experience with Harvey Weinstein that I came to understand the situation from a woman's perspective. Perhaps you will also find it insightful.
Harvey Weinstein Is My Monster Too
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03-27-2020, 07:24 AM #476
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Some would agree with you there, but when narcissism is extreme, coupled with other negative personality traits, and when it results in making decisions that put Americans at risk or mislead them, or when his narcissism makes him unable to take responsibility or prioritize others' needs above his own, then the costs of narcissism will outweigh any benefits, JMO.
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03-27-2020, 07:25 AM #477
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Come on, really?? What is "self-righteous" about believing that partisan political obsession is making people unhappy? Have you not observed that yourself?
As far as calling me names, that does not really support your position. In fact, it proves mine. You insult people for expressing opinions you disagree with.
Got anymore insults to back up your position about how not "self-righeous" you are?Last edited by eomrat; 03-27-2020 at 07:48 AM.
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