When did the Fairlady Z become a car for menopause aged women?

[JayJ350]

It's not 2008 anymore (well, it is for Nissan) and the current GT is a far more accomplished sports car than the 370z

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...storical-data/


The lap time difference between a modern performance pack GT(2.53.8) and a 370z nismo(3.12) is so vast it's like comparing my car to a McLaren 720 (2.39.7)

Look, if you are trying to get into racing a Mustang GT would be a terrible choice unless you do some serious work to it. There is a good reason why cheap used 370Z's have become a favorite car for drifters and it's because they have a very balanced front-midship 2 seater setup with a revvy V6 that can become a lightweight track car without spending a lot on it. It is also a more durable car for thrashing around a track, sure journalists will talk about track times with stock cars but they aren't the ones who have to maintain them. Tranmissions have always been a real weak point for GT's, you can get a Shelby to remedy that but then you are in a different class of car.

[Kev1972]

Look, if you are trying to get into racing a Mustang GT would be a terrible choice unless you do some serious work to it. There is a good reason why cheap used 370Z's have become a favorite car for drifters and it's because they have a very balanced front-midship 2 seater setup with a revvy V6 that can become a lightweight track car without spending a lot on it. It is also a more durable car for thrashing around a track, sure journalists will talk about track times with stock cars but they aren't the ones who have to maintain them. Tranmissions have always been a real weak point for GT's, you can get a Shelby to remedy that but then you are in a different class of car.

Yeah mane all those soccer moms are thrashing their z cars around the track while the kids are in school. Lol.

[katya422]

It definitely isn't underpowered. It is meant to be an affordable mid-range two seater sports car and it has always been one of the best in that category. Closest thing to it is probably the Jaguar F-type and those are a lot more expensive and the Nissan is definitely a better car.

I think too often some muscle car guys get some confused notion to compare big V8 2+2 to these little Japanese sports cars and it's just dumb. I say this as someone whose first car was a Trans Am WS6 who also drive a number of mustangs and there is just no comparison. I love the engines in those cars but there is just no comparing the feel and driving pleasure that you get from a real sports car in comparison.

I think one of my favorite sports cars is a perfect example of this. I got a 350Z and a NA Miata and the Miata is probably the best driving experience that you can have. The Z is a far more substantial feeling car and far better for taking on the highway but the Miata is such a pure and light weight driving experience, it offers fun in a way that big heavy power cars just can't compete.

In for fun. Posted that a Miata would be my choice for fun/impractical before.

Brother has a friend that does short track racing against the clock and says he has driven a few different things but comes back to the Miata as his favorite.

[Tamorlane]

It definitely isn't underpowered. It is meant to be an affordable mid-range two seater sports car and it has always been one of the best in that category. Closest thing to it is probably the Jaguar F-type and those are a lot more expensive and the Nissan is definitely a better car.

I think too often some muscle car guys get some confused notion to compare big V8 2+2 to these little Japanese sports cars and it's just dumb. I say this as someone whose first car was a Trans Am WS6 who also drive a number of mustangs and there is just no comparison. I love the engines in those cars but there is just no comparing the feel and driving pleasure that you get from a real sports car in comparison.

I think one of my favorite sports cars is a perfect example of this. I got a 350Z and a NA Miata and the Miata is probably the best driving experience that you can have. The Z is a far more substantial feeling car and far better for taking on the highway but the Miata is such a pure and light weight driving experience, it offers fun in a way that big heavy power cars just can't compete.

repped, nice to see someone who actually knows what they're talking about

[OutdoorsBrah]

Slow, ancient, overpriced car sells to clueless middle aged women because it "looks sporty"? Breaking news.

Literally this.



BRB going almost a decade with zero noteworthy improvements in motor, suspension, or transmission...... but price continues to hike up.... just lol

[ElectronicsBrah]

My mother owned one for many years. ‾\_(ツ)_/‾

[pakmansc300]

Literally never seen a woman driving a 370z.

Seen plenty of Karens in Mustangs and corvettes though

[ANumber1]

Slow, ancient, overpriced

I think I see what the middle-aged women see in them: themselves.

[Evolutionary1]

Literally this.



BRB going almost a decade with zero noteworthy improvements in motor, suspension, or transmission...... but price continues to hike up.... just lol

THe new one is supposed to be a 400ztt that will hang with high performance cars.... we shall see

[LetMePayforYou]

My ex had a thing for Vin Deisel.... she ended up wanting a 370z

[anonymous]

Yeah mane all those soccer moms are thrashing their z cars around the track while the kids are in school. Lol.

Those soccer moms are definitely going to push their cars harder than Randy Probst who got a 10 second faster Laguna sec lap out of the pp stang than the nismo 370z

You can show them it losing by every metric and they still defend it, it's kind of cute.

The pp gt is a generation behind the Camaro 1le when it comes to handling so it's bizzare people think American cars are giant boats while a Japanese antique with terrible skidpad numbers is some kind of zl1 beater

[AK5426]

2009 Nissan 370z touring quarter mile
12.9
2019 370z heritage edition
13.6
You wot an 03 350z ran a 13.9

A 91 skyline(r32) ran a 12.7 quarter mile. A car they made damn near 30 years is more then a second faster in the quarter mile then their brand new sports car. The 90s were really the golden age for jap cars.

I guess the GTR is still a monster though.

[sg1976]

I have a friend who bought a challenger instead of a charger during perimanopause. I say perimanopause because was in his early 30s.

[pakmansc300]

2009 Nissan 370z touring quarter mile
12.9
2019 370z heritage edition
13.6
You wot an 03 350z ran a 13.9

A 91 skyline(r32) ran a 12.7 quarter mile. A car they made damn near 30 years is more then a second faster in the quarter mile then their brand new sports car. The 90s were really the golden age for jap cars.

I guess the GTR is still a monster though.

The 09 was most likely an automatic. They can pull high 12's stock.

You make no sense comparing the 370z to a 91 R32 gtr. Compare it to a 91 300ZX. They ran high 13's stock.

[gluon]

dont understand the hate for the Z

no one is claiming its fast, but they are fun to drive, cheap rwd jap car whats not to like.

[DizzySmalls]

I'd consider mine just moderately quick @ 700ish whp, can't imagine seriously thinking a stock Z is remotely fast.

I honestly think I would end up dead with a supercharger on my GT. I get myself into enough (correctable) trouble with 460hp

[AK5426]

The 09 was most likely an automatic. They can pull low 13's high 12's stock.

You make no sense comparing the 370z to a 91 R32 gtr. Compare it to a 91 300ZX. They ran high 13's stock.

True but high 13s in a 300zx then running high 13s in a brand new 370z isn't good. I get the car is more about handling then straight line speed but it's been 30 years.

[SgtBlackburn]

There's a guy that lives somewhere near me who has a beautiful Datsun 240z that looks just like this



Always mirin hard everytime i see it on the road

[WHYCANTILIFT]

aw fuk i drive a 350z but honestly only seen like 3 women in my lifetime driving one. and one was previous driver of my car i bought it from lmao.


im gonna buy a supra tho

[anonymous]

I honestly think I would end up dead with a supercharger on my GT. I get myself into enough (correctable) trouble with 460hp

The real chit your pants moments come when driving in a rainstorm with aggressive R compound tires on the back. I drive like a granny and go very light on the peddle lol

A whipple s2 has a nice linear power delivery so it's quite predictable and easy to drive. My bro has a turbo setup which is pushing north of 1000whp which seems insane to me.

[rectifryer]

Look, if you are trying to get into racing a Mustang GT would be a terrible choice unless you do some serious work to it. There is a good reason why cheap used 370Z's have become a favorite car for drifters and it's because they have a very balanced front-midship 2 seater setup with a revvy V6 that can become a lightweight track car without spending a lot on it. It is also a more durable car for thrashing around a track, sure journalists will talk about track times with stock cars but they aren't the ones who have to maintain them. Tranmissions have always been a real weak point for GT's, you can get a Shelby to remedy that but then you are in a different class of car.

serious question. Are you retarded? IDGAF what "experience" you think you have. You're subjective opinion doesn't refute the objective performance of pony cars pulling 1.1g in skidpads stock with 420whp+ from the factory laying down easy low 12sec passes versus your chit box high 14 sec banana peel for wheels chit boxes. Have a nice day and fist yourself.

Seriously listen to yourself. You sound like every old ******* ws6 owner from the 90s that couldn't understand why some Ecliose just pushed their chit in. It's like you finally came around to that twenty years later just in time to be wrong again. Keep buying high and selling low *******.

[Vhagar]

Been making fun of the homos that drive these rice mobiles as long as I can remember

You’re not Dom in fast and the furious. *******s

[WHYCANTILIFT]

youre right bish im brian o conner.

[stonesfan99]

I sat in a 350Z once and I was too big for the car.

[Miscbob]

The 240z was legit and a great car for the era. 300zx although boatish handling and tenancy to catch on fire still had some balls.

Th 350z and 370z are both hairdressers cars. Why did JDM car makers lose their balls when making affordable sports cars in recent times? And why no turbo? Yeah emission laws probably but still... they lost sight of what made JDM cars so great.

[LetMePayforYou]

350z was quite a car, not so much the 370

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

Nissan dropped the ball with the 370 IMO. I had a 350Z and that car was fun as fuk to drive. Never had interest in the 370 though. They should have made a twin turbo option.

[leoaa777]

Akuma no zeto

[Kev1972]

Why did JDM car makers lose their balls when making affordable sports cars in recent times? And why no turbo? Yeah emission laws probably but still... they lost sight of what made JDM cars so great.

The market dried up. American sports cars were moth balled too. Everyone wants crossovers or SUVs.

[Syko617]

THe new one is supposed to be a 400ztt that will hang with high performance cars.... we shall see

ive heard this too. it will have the same engine as the new Q60 or whatever redline.
hopefully they go back to TT V6s.

reason i never like the 350z was because besides a plenum spacer and exhaust there wasnt much that you could do to it for power. then the TT $15k kits rolled out for them but nobody really did them (at least in my area)

while in my 300ZX TT i was able to hit mid 500 with injectors, downpipes, bigger intercoolers and a tune. about $3k-$4k.
my 1990 Z was beating *******s in their brand new 350z while rolling with T-Tops off...