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    My gym bro won his class in a muscle mania contest taking more than our (smaller) IFBB pro gym bro

    I think the average person assumes TRT is the same moral crime as a Jay Cutler sized cycle so none of these YouTube natties could come clean even if they wanted to
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    Originally Posted by Jestbrah View Post
    do you not realize that many non nattys reached the peak of their natural physique, say 6ft 240 lean, BEFORE they became not natty only so they could then surpass those limits imposed only by genetics and biology, and do MORE work and harder dieting than non nattys can without overtraining?

    Whatever your genetic limit is that's where you stop.

    Drinking OJ is cheating plain and simple.
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    Originally Posted by Halfway View Post
    My gym bro won a muscle mania contest taking more than our (smaller) IFBB pro gym bro

    I think the average person assumes oj is the same moral crime as a Jay Cutler sized cycle so none of these YouTube natties could come clean even if they wanted to
    The only time OJ is not cheating is when it brings your vitamin c back to your 20yo level and not one point higher.
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    Originally Posted by leoslayer1 View Post
    The only time OJ is not cheating is when it brings your vitamin c back to your 20yo level and not one point higher.
    Oh, that's good to know. Would hate to think I'm cheating at being the biggest middle aged software developer in my office
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    Originally Posted by Halfway View Post
    Oh, that's good to know. Would hate to think I'm cheating at being the biggest middle aged software developer in my office
    The problem is you don't know your 20 yo Vitamin C level right? I mean it might have only been say 600 and not 1000.
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    His legs were pretty pathetic though in all honesty.
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    Originally Posted by Polaris View Post



    His legs were pretty pathetic though in all honesty.
    No-one natty has good legs, it's one of the best ways to spot a juicer, and I'm pretty sure he was openly not natural anyway.
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    Originally Posted by leoslayer1 View Post
    The problem is you don't know your 20 yo Vitamin C level right? I mean it might have only been say 600 and not 1000.
    Chit guess I better give my prize money back then.

    I'd have passed in the UFC back when they allowed trt so that'll have to do.
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    The only time OJ is not cheating is when it brings your vitamin c back to your 20yo level and not one point higher.
    the difference in 20 yr old natural top end level and supraphysiological levels is smaller than you would think. A person can get HUGE if they are peak 20 yo levels for a decade
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    Naturals seem to be smaller overall, less lean, less dry, more streamlined and weaker.

    The wow factor is usually not there.

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    Originally Posted by Jestbrah View Post
    the difference in 20 yr old natural top end level and supraphysiological levels is smaller than you would think. A person can get HUGE if they are peak 20 yo levels for a decade
    I don't think you understand my point.

    Not everyone has the genetics and natural levels at 20 to even bench 250 after several years of lifting.

    So a little bit of minute maid in your 40s will only get you back to your 20 year old self. Never allowing you to progress beyond your natural limit.
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    Originally Posted by I3igAl View Post
    -6'1 250
    -deadlifts around 800lbs.
    -his one-handed dealift world record will turn 100 years old this year
    -loses some points in aestetics for Hitler stache though



    Huh, cool. Strong family resemblance. Looks a good deal like my dad/uncle/cousins. Longer legs and a relatively short wide waist so makes sense that he would be a natural for deads.

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    To me the pinnacle of natty is probably John Grimek, he competed in the 30s and 40s. He was 5'8.5, 208 lbs and maybe around 12% BF. This sounds about right if you have amazing genetics for a natty.

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    Originally Posted by BenMcLeodNZ View Post
    No-one natty has good legs, it's one of the best ways to spot a juicer, and I'm pretty sure he was openly not natural anyway.
    No, he was very anti steroids. Doesn't 100% mean he was natty, but I give the benefit of the doubt. He did claim that 30 eggs a day was the equivalent of a dbol cycle though (lol).

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    Of course, I don't know for sure these guys were natty but consider the time periods that they were active it makes it a lot more likely.
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    Originally Posted by ThisIsMyAlias View Post
    I don't think you're stupid, you've just been lied to for so long you don't know any better.
    Imagine waking up logging on to a bodybuilding forum and telling people you think this is natural



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    Originally Posted by Polaris View Post
    No, he was very anti steroids. Doesn't 100% mean he was natty, but I give the benefit of the doubt. He did claim that 30 eggs a day was the equivalent of a dbol cycle though (lol).

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    Of course, I don't know for sure these guys were natty but consider the time periods that they were active it makes it a lot more likely.
    Of course they weren't-Bruno Sammartino set the world bench press record at 565 pounds in 1959 without wraps & looked nothing like them.

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    zyzz. I know he took celltech but his physique is achievable natty
    Which Zyzz? Return of the king or bulk zyzz 1 month before dying?
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    Of course they weren't-Bruno Sammartino set the world bench press record at 565 pounds in 1959 without wraps & looked nothing like them.

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    That's not a very good argument (if you're being serious, I'm not even sure).
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    Originally Posted by Polaris View Post
    That's not a very good argument (if you're being serious, I'm not even sure).
    Yes, he was lifting more than any of them could, in the gym religiously & never looked anything like them. You don't get to look like these people do naturally. Look at bodybuilders off season, look at Hulk Hogan, Ultimate Warrior, Rick Martel & the other WWF guys from 1992 after Dr Zahorian got convicted & the mainstream media were all over them & compare their physiques to the years before.
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    I've glanced through everything, but it seems that people are just "saying" that they are natural. Like a he said she said type thing. If ur going to post some guy, post the proof alongside it!

    The guys from like 70 years ago are alright since I'm not even sure if steroids were popularized, only the olympic guys used them. So they might be natural with the proof being that you couldn't even buy roids (still not sure).
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    Fyi many people run a course for a short period of time and then dont do it again. Do they count?
    sums it up a thread will start off promising and then turn into name calling..
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    lol @ these guys and their pipe dreams of achieving these "natural" looks. The guy who you think is natty most likely isn't.. You think hes natty because you think you will be able to get there and look like that person natural but you never will and ain't close. Half the people on this forum look nowhere near the "natural" guys they're claiming.. I'm still yet to see a miscer who is actually natural get anywhere thats as impressive as most of these photos. Harsh truth.. Don't kid yourselves.
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    Originally Posted by 04akhriz40 View Post
    I've glanced through everything, but it seems that people are just "saying" that they are natural. Like a he said she said type thing. If ur going to post some guy, post the proof alongside it!

    The guys from like 70 years ago are alright since I'm not even sure if steroids were popularized, only the olympic guys used them. So they might be natural with the proof being that you couldn't even buy roids (still not sure).
    Indeed, the delusion is incredible. They were around in the 1930's, people have to be deluded to think that athletes weren't using them from that point forward. All this they weren't being used by bodybuilders until 15-20 years after they were discovered-bs. Newsflash-athletes/coaches always have & always will take whatever shortcut is there at the time. If sports were natural then you would be seeing 10 seconds plus 100m finals. The number of home runs would be minuscule etc.
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    Originally Posted by 04akhriz40 View Post
    I've glanced through everything, but it seems that people are just "saying" that they are natural. Like a he said she said type thing. If ur going to post some guy, post the proof alongside it!

    The guys from like 70 years ago are alright since I'm not even sure if steroids were popularized, only the olympic guys used them. So they might be natural with the proof being that you couldn't even buy roids (still not sure).
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    Originally Posted by ChrissJ View Post
    Tom platz competed in the 70s and admitted to use
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