Hell yea. After they graduate college, rack up a ton of debt, and can barely get by check to check in their mid thirties, thennnnnnn they can start to think about having one kid, until they disappear off the face of the earth.
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02-24-2020, 06:52 AM #61"I am a rational animal who occupies the intermediary position between angel and beast"
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02-24-2020, 06:53 AM #62
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Schools, emergency services and local departments of transportation are funded by local and municipal governments, not the federal government. This is the intention of founding a country with a small federal government and leaving things like this to the people (ie... local governments and individuals). As for federal infrastructure, it's necessary so that people can get things like food shipped to them.
The military is a necessary expense so we don't get conquered by China or Mexican drug cartels, and is also a specific duty of government.
This is an expansion of federal powers and theft of wages from contributors. Do you think people who make enough to actually pay taxes and have families will want their kid in preschool with kids who's parents are drug addicted food stamp section 8ers? Because that's who will use this program and others like it.
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If people are not going to work, why would they need free day care?
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02-24-2020, 07:49 AM #73
More like:
"Do you guys have kids, or not? If not, how much empathy do you have for others and the consequences for their CHOICES?"
To answer your question: I have no kids and give 0 ****s about other people's struggles to have kids that put financial strain on them due to the obscene amounts of money childcare costs.
The whole bullchit with Bernie an M2A is that healthy, generally younger adults/couples that don't have/don't plan on having kids are getting a big nice boot shoved in their mouth and will be forced to pay $$ to supplement other people's kids and health habits.
The only time H2A should (in my opinion) is to treat genetic defects and not-at-fault accidents. Households without kids are the ones that should be getting more tax credits/deductions. Unpopular opinion, I know.Arsenal F.C / San Antonio Spurs
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02-24-2020, 07:51 AM #74
Basically I agree with this sentiment.
You guys get so worried about how this is implemented in countries with a smaller population than NYC alone. Its impossible to compare the US to these places due to our population diversity and sheer population size. Nothing of that nature has been successfully adopted in a population even remotely close in scale to the United States that I'm aware of.***Mariah Carey is my 10/10 Crew***
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02-24-2020, 12:02 PM #78
It's a better alternative than not having a job and producing 4+ kids to collect welfare and tax refunds. A huge tax (state, at least) paid in Georgia goes towards schools and healthcare, both of which my wife and I benefit 0 from aside from our surrounding neighbors' children potentially becoming less moronic as they grow older. I suppose it's a trade.
Also, subsidizing not having kids can limit the overpopulation we have especially with illegal immigration not coming to a halt. (That's another topic of oh mai gawd people are not reproducing enough VS. the we have 7.7 billion ****tards on earth and it's not sustainable in the future) Then again that could mean whites will be replaced even faster with foreigners.Arsenal F.C / San Antonio Spurs
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02-24-2020, 12:22 PM #84
Lol at thinking the people supporting “free” daycare would put money aside for any kind of flex spending account. They don’t pay attention to the amount of taxes taken out, they just know they can sit at home, drink malt liquor and slowly die while their kids practically grow up in a public hellhole ie daycare
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1.) there’s a law that says all kids must attend school, and since it isn’t a choice we all have to come together to pay for it
2.) the fire department is more likely insurance in case you need them. Also, they provide plenty of other services like helping if you crash/clearing the road so traffic can resume. Even if your house has never caught on fire you’ve benefitted from the fire department plenty of times
3.) people without a car don’t pay a property tax on the vehicle, and they also don’t pay taxes in the form of a gas tax, which generates a lot of revenue for roads. Plus, just because you don’t drive doesn’t mean you don’t benefit tremendously from roads in your community. It’s so obvious I kind of hope you were just throwing it out there hoping people wouldn’t read past the first two examples you were trying to use.
4.) again, just because you don’t want to pay for the military it doesn’t mean you don’t significantly benefit from our armed forces. Sure we could argue where the line is and what is justified when it comes to military spending, but that is the case for every single expense.
The line should be drawn where the cost/ROI comes out in our favor. Paying for every single person’s college doesn’t seem like a good investment. One of the reasons student debt is so high now is because the govt. got into the business of loaning people money to attend, which allowed colleges accept a lot more people and jack up prices. Imagine that scenario, but 10 times worse.+positive crew+
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