Wilder vs Fury II

[1fast1]

I met Tyson Fury...not sure why he looks so tall and long on tv. He's actually a manlet.

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Thinking about it, how could you legit beat a guy like Tyson Fury? From any era? He's tall as chit, big as chit, fast, powerful, athletic as hell, more athletic than most guys smaller than him. How do you beat a guy with every physical advantage? I don't even think Tyson, Ali eras can beat this guy. Even if you can outbox him, most-likely he's bigger than you, and only has to impose his will as such. You got to catch him slippin', honestly.

I think Lennox Lewis would beat him, but I think Lewis has the best chance of beating any heavyweight from any era, mainly because of those physical attributes you mentioned.

[jfindon]

Is this real life?

https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-e...d-legs--147075

****er is saying his 40lb idiotic costume was the reason he lost?

[Mr Beer]

Is this real life?

https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-e...d-legs--147075

****er is saying his 40lb idiotic costume was the reason he lost?

"He claims that Fury's punches were not damaging "

“He didn’t hurt me at all" - Wilder

Seems like Wilder is the greatest actor of our generation, because he did a flawless impersonation of a man getting beaten like a rented mule. All the falling over and spraying blood was just jokes.

[HairyWBush]

Is this real life?

https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-e...d-legs--147075

****er is saying his 40lb idiotic costume was the reason he lost?

fake news please.

[Mark1T]

I met Tyson Fury...not sure why he looks so tall and long on tv. He's actually a manlet.

Very cool.

I admit that until Fury fought Klitscko, I didn't know who he was. At the time I didn't like him for beating Klitschko.

But, him and his story grew on me and I became a fan. He is a legend.

I didn't even think MMA this weekend.

[jfindon]

Wilder, who needed seven stitches to close a cut inside his left ear, said he thought the first knockdown was from an illegal punch behind the head and that Fury hit him illegally several times. Wilder said he was ticked off that Kenny Bayless, among the most experienced championship referees in boxing, did not adequately protect him, though he did dock one point from Fury in the fifth round.

Again, this coming from a man who prefaced everything by saying he wasn't making excuses. Even today that's all I'm hearing from him.

[VegasLifter26]

"He claims that Fury's punches were not damaging "

“He didn’t hurt me at all" - Wilder

Seems like Wilder is the greatest actor of our generation, because he did a flawless impersonation of a man getting beaten like a rented mule. All the falling over and spraying blood was just jokes.

cte real

[Ladiessman217]

This era is worse in terms of quality HW's than the Vitali/Wlad era.
Crazy that a guy like Wilder held the legendary WBC title for such a long time.

[HairyWBush]

Again, this coming from a man who prefaced everything by saying he wasn't making excuses. Even today that's all I'm hearing from him.

he can't carry 40 fukkin pounds? he was boasting about putting in time in the gym and he's ready. has he got weak little legs and can't do it for a minute? that's funny because tyson was carrying 44 extra pounds the entire fight vs his stupid entrance. *******

[Carbonfibre]

Again, this coming from a man who prefaced everything by saying he wasn't making excuses. Even today that's all I'm hearing from him.

That's what happens when he is surrounded by yes man.



First fight list of excuses

-count was too long
-had broken arm in camp
-had cold before the fight


Second fight
-the pre fight suit was too heavy made me tired
-had issue with vision due to lights
-ref was helping fury
-hit me back of head
-dirty boxing





and most importantly


to this day no excuses



what a phucking clown

just get different trainers and learn to box

[Jaydawg08]

I would think some of the MMA brahs would understand combat sports mentality but apparently not. The minute a fighter understands or comes the realization that his opponent is better, they've lost mentally. Fighters ALWAYS make excuses for their losses one way or another. It's how the mind works and keeps your confidence high.

Wilder at 34 it's to late to overhaul his boxing technique.. but what it's not too late to do is find you a team that maximize your strengths, which is your length and amazing right hand, and solid jabs.

I still think Wilder can beat Fury, I just don't like the game plan his team came up with this last fight.. they didn't prepare at all for Fury coming forward and shortening the distance

[Mark1T]

I would think some of the MMA brahs would understand combat sports mentality but apparently not. The minute a fighter understands or comes the realization that his opponent is better, they've lost mentally. Fighters ALWAYS make excuses for their losses one way or another. It's how the mind works and keeps your confidence high.

Wilder at 34 it's to late to overhaul his boxing technique.. but what it's not too late to do is find you a team that maximize your strengths, which is your length and amazing right hand, and solid jabs.

I still think Wilder can beat Fury, I just don't like the game plan his team came up with this last fight.. they didn't prepare at all for Fury coming forward and shortening the distance

When Mike Tyson fought, most of his opponents were scared shiitless before the fight, because they knew Mike would be in there to tear their heads clean off.

Wilder was surprised how Fury came right at him when the bell rang. Fury's model was to keep close and cancel out Wilder's super punch. And, to beat him up. In all of Fury's fights, he had a strategy and on each of those many people didn't believe him. But, he always did what he said he was going to do. There is your high boxing IQ and Fury exposed Wilder. Ruiz won most of the rounds until he was clocked. Fury is just smarter and a more talented boxer.

[Mr Beer]

Yeah but I'd try and make excuses that don't make me sound like a man who just got his brains scrambled by a gigantic gypsy...oh wait I guess I understand now.

[Mark1T]

he can't carry 40 fukkin pounds? he was boasting about putting in time in the gym and he's ready. has he got weak little legs and can't do it for a minute? that's funny because tyson was carrying 44 extra pounds the entire fight vs his stupid entrance. *******

Truth

[Jaydawg08]

When Mike Tyson fought, most of his opponents were scared shiitless before the fight, because they knew Mike would be in there to tear their heads clean off.

Wilder was surprised how Fury came right at him when the bell rang. Fury's model was to keep close and cancel out Wilder's super punch. And, to beat him up. In all of Fury's fights, he had a strategy and on each of those many people didn't believe him. But, he always did what he said he was going to do. There is your high boxing IQ and Fury exposed Wilder. Ruiz won most of the rounds until he was clocked. Fury is just smarter and a more talented boxer.

No one has ever doubted Fury wasn't a better BOXER than Wilder. Even people who picked Wilder readily admitted this. Against Ortiz Wilder did a great job of staying patient and keeping away from Ortiz's big shots. I just think most people were surprised by Wilder and his boxing , when if you've followed the HW division at all it wasn't surprising in the least. The surprising part was Fury coming forward and pressuring as much as he did. That surprised Wilder and rocked him and he never recovered after that knockdown. It was actually a good even fight until then.

People keep using the word "exposed" and it's annoying, and ironically exposes you as someone who hasn't been following boxing.. EVERYONE KNEW WILDER IS A ONE TRICK PONY. The hard part was figuring out how to get to Wilder before he got to you. Fury did a great job, but in a rematch against a puncher with a lethal right hand that won't always be the case

[Mark1T]

No one has ever doubted Fury wasn't a better BOXER than Wilder. Even people who picked Wilder readily admitted this. Against Ortiz Wilder did a great job of staying patient and keeping away from Ortiz's big shots. I just think most people were surprised by Wilder and his boxing , when if you've followed the HW division at all it wasn't surprising in the least. The surprising part was Fury coming forward and pressuring as much as he did. That surprised Wilder and rocked him and he never recovered after that knockdown. It was actually a good even fight until then.

People keep using the word "exposed" and it's annoying, and ironically exposes you as someone who hasn't been following boxing.. EVERYONE KNEW WILDER IS A ONE TRICK PONY. The hard part was figuring out how to get to Wilder before he got to you. Fury did a great job, but in a rematch against a puncher with a lethal right hand that won't always be the case

I agree with you here. By exposed I mean not that great of a pure boxer. That doesn't mean that he can't fight.

Even the ESPN commentators were saying 'exposed' for his lack of boxing skills. But, they also said he can fight as a puncher.

[300BLK]

No one has ever doubted Fury wasn't a better BOXER than Wilder. Even people who picked Wilder readily admitted this. Against Ortiz Wilder did a great job of staying patient and keeping away from Ortiz's big shots. I just think most people were surprised by Wilder and his boxing , when if you've followed the HW division at all it wasn't surprising in the least. The surprising part was Fury coming forward and pressuring as much as he did. That surprised Wilder and rocked him and he never recovered after that knockdown. It was actually a good even fight until then.

People keep using the word "exposed" and it's annoying, and ironically exposes you as someone who hasn't been following boxing.. EVERYONE KNEW WILDER IS A ONE TRICK PONY. The hard part was figuring out how to get to Wilder before he got to you. Fury did a great job, but in a rematch against a puncher with a lethal right hand that won't always be the case

Some of what I've said about the fight, but I agree with pretty much all of this. Repped.

I think it's less about Wilder being exposed, Fury just once again showing how good he is.

[Swept]

If Wilder fought in the 90s he would be a poor man's David Tua, if he fought in the 70s he would be gate keeper

[KingSWRV]

I would think some of the MMA brahs would understand combat sports mentality but apparently not. The minute a fighter understands or comes the realization that his opponent is better, they've lost mentally. Fighters ALWAYS make excuses for their losses one way or another. It's how the mind works and keeps your confidence high.

Wilder at 34 it's to late to overhaul his boxing technique.. but what it's not too late to do is find you a team that maximize your strengths, which is your length and amazing right hand, and solid jabs.

I still think Wilder can beat Fury, I just don't like the game plan his team came up with this last fight.. they didn't prepare at all for Fury coming forward and shortening the distance

When Mike Tyson fought, most of his opponents were scared shiitless before the fight, because they knew Mike would be in there to tear their heads clean off.

Wilder was surprised how Fury came right at him when the bell rang. Fury's model was to keep close and cancel out Wilder's super punch. And, to beat him up. In all of Fury's fights, he had a strategy and on each of those many people didn't believe him. But, he always did what he said he was going to do. There is your high boxing IQ and Fury exposed Wilder. Ruiz won most of the rounds until he was clocked. Fury is just smarter and a more talented boxer.

If Wilder fought in the 90s he would be a poor man's David Tua, if he fought in the 70s he would be gate keeper

Kinda more ignorant assessments going on here.

What nobody is thinking about is that when theres a size mismatch, the only thing you can do is have a "punchers chance" either way. The only way to stop a bigger guy is to keep him away with the threat of getting hit with a huge punch.

So the match was decided by weight and bloat. Thats not really even a boxing skill.

If Wilder was more "skilled" it wouldn't have made a difference because he wasnt strong enough to not get rag dolled.

You cant take the best boxers in the world, put may weather against a 200lbs guy and he will get dominated. Doesnt matter how good he is.

If anything Wilder would have needed to squat even heavier and come in super tanky to be able to control the clinch better, forget punching lol.

weight limits exist for a reason.

All the boxers from the mid era are tiny and would get wrecked by both these guys.

hollyfield and Lennox lewis were manlets in comparison to both.

[Swept]

All the boxers from the mid era are tiny and would get wrecked by both these guys.

hollyfield and Lennox lewis were manlets in comparison to both.

Yeah no. Wilder learned to box at 21 all those 70s guys were brought boxing. George Forman old ass was still beating people in the 90s

[Groce]

Lmfao @ Wilder blaming the loss on his Dark Souls costume, legitimately one of the funniest excuses I've ever heard.

[KingSWRV]

Yeah no. Wilder learned to box at 21 all those 70s guys were brought boxing. George Forman old ass was still beating people in the 90s

Did you see that Goerge foreman fight tho when he was old? looked like he was just standing there. Wilder would bank on him first round, and everyone he ever won against.

Wilder would destroy all of those who grew up with all that technique because some of that stuff is bs anyway and bypassable. Sports evolve and sometimes they get less complex. Look at Bball for example. All that matters is how much you lift. Thats why Jordan dominated, he started lifting first before the others. Same with boxing, guys are stronger now, theres less "technique" available. Even what Fury did was only 10% of his whole arsenal of "techniques" because its useless.

THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS SIZE>

Wilder is bigger than those guys. Fury is even bigger.

Wilder knocked Fury out....

then he got EVEN BIGGER and cheated even more

Not by skill, but by size.

Wilder knocked Fury out because he was too similar to his size. He wasnt bigger enough. Wasnt cheating enough.

Wilder would knock out all the lil clinical classical boxers. Every single one. So would Megaton Fury.

Dude looks like he coulda been a Roman Legionary commander in HBO's Rome.

[Swept]

Did you see that Goerge foreman fight tho when he was old? looked like he was just standing there. Wilder would bank on him first round, and everyone he ever won against.

Wilder would destroy all of those who grew up with all that technique because some of that stuff is bs anyway and bypassable. Sports evolve and sometimes they get less complex. Look at Bball for example. All that matters is how much you lift. Thats why Jordan dominated, he started lifting first before the others. Same with boxing, guys are stronger now, theres less "technique" available. Even what Fury did was only 10% of his whole arsenal of "techniques" because its useless.

THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS SIZE>

Wilder is bigger than those guys. Fury is even bigger.

Wilder knocked Fury out....

then he got EVEN BIGGER and cheated even more

Not by skill, but by size.

Wilder knocked Fury out because he was too similar to his size. He wasnt bigger enough. Wasnt cheating enough.

Wilder would knock out all the lil clinical classical boxers. Every single one. So would Megaton Fury.

Dude looks like he coulda been a Roman Legionary commander in HBO's Rome.

Lmao theres so much wrong with this idk if it’s even worth responding to.


Wilder has faced a bunch of cab drivers most of them which also started boxing late. The HW division nowadays for the most part is a bunch athletes who failed in other sports unlike back then when boxing was a top 5 sport and had actual competition to get into the pros.

[Mark1T]

Did you see that Goerge foreman fight tho when he was old? looked like he was just standing there. Wilder would bank on him first round, and everyone he ever won against.

Wilder would destroy all of those who grew up with all that technique because some of that stuff is bs anyway and bypassable. Sports evolve and sometimes they get less complex. Look at Bball for example. All that matters is how much you lift. Thats why Jordan dominated, he started lifting first before the others. Same with boxing, guys are stronger now, theres less "technique" available. Even what Fury did was only 10% of his whole arsenal of "techniques" because its useless.

THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS SIZE>

Wilder is bigger than those guys. Fury is even bigger.

Wilder knocked Fury out....

then he got EVEN BIGGER and cheated even more

Not by skill, but by size.

Wilder knocked Fury out because he was too similar to his size. He wasnt bigger enough. Wasnt cheating enough.

Wilder would knock out all the lil clinical classical boxers. Every single one. So would Megaton Fury.

Dude looks like he coulda been a Roman Legionary commander in HBO's Rome.

This is bullshiit.

[KingSWRV]

This is bullshiit.

no

what you guys are saying is bs in my opinion.

and biased.

[jfindon]

https://coupler.foxsports.com.au/api...88c622bb6373d0


No, Wilder is bull****. Period.

[Mark1T]

https://coupler.foxsports.com.au/api...88c622bb6373d0

No, Wilder is bull****. Period.

Reps tomorrow, brother.

[KingSWRV]

Reps tomorrow, brother.

Yeah lets rep celebrating about how a guy that relies on youth and speed who's age is starting to show was involved in an unfair size mismatched contest.

Meanwhile Fury is peaking age wise and size wise.

[Mark1T]

Yeah lets rep celebrating about how a guy that relies on youth and speed who's age is starting to show was involved in an unfair size mismatched contest.

Meanwhile Fury is peaking age wise and size wise.

You are always right and everyone else is ignorant

Do you remember when Evander Holyfield fought Lenox Lewis? Sure Lewis won, but it was a war. Holyfield weighed just 215lbs at 6'2". Lewis weighed 257lbs. at 6'5" and they went the distance.

Lewis was a monster in size comparison to Holyfield, but because of Holyfield's very high boxing skills and heart, he gave Lewis a war. A war.