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    US Officials told Sanders that Russia is trying to help his 2020 Campaign

    Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) was briefed by U.S. intelligence officials this week that Russia is interfering in the 2020 elections to help his presidential campaign, The Washington Post reported on Friday.

    The report was published the day after The New York Times reported that House lawmakers were told by U.S. officials last week that Russia was also attempting to interfere in the 2020 elections to help the campaign of President Trump.

    Sanders described Russian President Vladimir Putin as a “thug” in a statement on Friday in response to the report, emphasizing that he stands “firmly against” Russian interference efforts.

    “Unlike Donald Trump, I do not consider Vladimir Putin a good friend. He is an autocratic thug who is attempting to destroy democracy and crush dissent in Russia," Sanders said. "Let’s be clear, the Russians want to undermine American democracy by dividing us up and, unlike the current president, I stand firmly against their efforts, and any other foreign power that wants to interfere in our election."

    “I don't care, frankly, who Putin wants to be president,” Sanders added. “My message to Putin is clear: stay out of American elections, and as president I will make sure that you do.”
    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...-2020-campaign



    And that's how you respond to allegations Russia is meddling in our elections.


    The timing of this release is interesting though, given the fact he was briefed a month ago..
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...-2020-campaign


    And that's how you respond to allegations Russia is meddling in our elections.

    I am confused. If Trump is such a puppet of Putin, why would they help Sanders?
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    Originally Posted by Cudabrah View Post
    I am confused. If Trump is such a puppet of Putin, why would they help Sanders?
    The real question is why won't Trump denounce Russia meddling like Bernie did without hesitation.
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    How is this possible OP?

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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    The real question is why won't Trump denounce Russia meddling like Bernie did without hesitation.
    IIRC Obama told Putin to "cut it out".


    That worked pretty well.
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    Originally Posted by Cudabrah View Post
    I am confused. If Trump is such a puppet of Putin, why would they help Sanders?
    Probably only helping Sanders during the primaries, so that he can get smoked by Trump in the general election.
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    so russia is trying to help Sanders and Trump but some how only trump is the bad guy? you libbies are insane.
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    Yes it's a great idea to call Putin a thug. That's great diplomacy
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    The report was published the day after The New York Times reported that House lawmakers were told by U.S. officials last week that Russia was also attempting to interfere in the 2020 elections to help the campaign of President Trump

    God damn.. Russians just helping everybody's campaign here lately!

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    Yes it's a great idea to call Putin a thug. That's great diplomacy
    Bernie had his microphone taken away from him by another woman recently.. Bad for his image, so he needs to act tough.

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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    The real question is why won't Trump denounce Russia meddling like Bernie did without hesitation.
    Because it is a retarded talking point and there is no way to stop trolls on ********. Do you think denouncing it is magically going to stop it? Maybe Bernie should go to his safe space.
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    Originally Posted by BOZZ View Post
    Yes it's a great idea to call Putin a thug. That's great diplomacy
    Bernie would probably be the worst diplomat in the history of the presidency
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    The real question is why won't Trump denounce Russia meddling like Bernie did without hesitation.
    Because posting memes on social media isnt election meddling.
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    Originally Posted by jlick View Post
    so russia is trying to help Sanders and Trump but some how only trump is the bad guy? you libbies are insane.
    Why won't Trump simply say he denounces Russian interference? It took Bernie all of three seconds.

    But to answer the "why Bernie" questions.. obviously Trump will be the Rep nominee for the 2020 election. Sanders represents "socialism" or "communism" to the right, which further divides the country. Obviously Russia would rather have Bernie than Biden (or Hillary etc). Their primary goals are to divide us and get someone who will be the least hostile to Russia.
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    Because it is a retarded talking point and there is no way to stop trolls on ********. Do you think denouncing it is magically going to stop it? Maybe Bernie should go to his safe space.
    Welcome to the inner workings of how leftists think. Results don't matter.

    Trump already knows it doesn't matter what he does they will cry cry cry about it and if he does denounce it they'll just move on to the next subject.

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    While Trump puts the toughest sanctions in recent times on Russia, Pat thinks it weighs heavier when he hasn't made a statement calling Russian's "thugs" with possibly thinking more than just one step ahead when it comes to diplomacy. I'll take results and action over this weird leftist mentality that cares about everything but.

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    Originally Posted by Cudabrah View Post
    I am confused. If Trump is such a puppet of Putin, why would they help Sanders?
    Because Sanders is as easy to manipulate or (more likely) because the best way to guarantee another Trump term is to have him run against Sanders. The Russians and most of the Misc agree Sanders would crash and burn in a general election.
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    Originally Posted by chalup View Post
    Because it is a retarded talking point and there is no way to stop trolls on ********. Do you think denouncing it is magically going to stop it? Maybe Bernie should go to his safe space.
    Weird how Moscow Mitch and Trump block every bill that comes through the Senate to actually do something about it..
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    Do people really still pay attention to this whole "intelligence" thing after the Mueller melt down?

    I'd also like to know how Russian interference in elections is impacting day to day people?
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    Why won't Trump simply say he denounces Russian interference? It took Bernie all of three seconds.

    But to answer the "why Bernie" questions.. obviously Trump will be the Rep nominee for the 2020 election. Sanders represents "socialism" or "communism" to the right, which further divides the country. Obviously Russia would rather have Bernie than Biden (or Hillary etc). Their primary goals are to divide us and get someone who will be the least hostile to Russia.
    if they want someone who is least hostile to russia, they would pick Bernie. Trump has been very tough on Russia, and has also done a tremendous job of building up our US millitary. Bernie wants to destroy the US millitary (and our economy), which would fall right into line to giving Russia more power.
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    Originally Posted by OPGenesis View Post
    I'd also like to know how Russian interference in elections is impacting day to day people?
    It doesn't. In fact, it's nothing new. Russia (and others) have been meddling in our elections any way they could for decades. It actually happened much more in the Soviet days.

    Think about how many elections in other countries the United States has meddled in as well.

    Hyping up the meddling thing by the media and Democrats is a perfect example of lying by omission. They never put things into historical context as if this sort of thing is unprecedented.
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    Originally Posted by jlick View Post
    if they want someone who is least hostile to russia, they would pick Bernie. Trump has been very tough on Russia, and has also done a tremendous job of building up our US millitary. Bernie wants to destroy the US millitary (and our economy), which would fall right into line to giving Russia more power.
    I don't think they think Bernie is pro Russia, but that he helps divide the country (via accusations of socialist/communist propaganda from the right).

    Your statements regarding Bernie wanting to "destroy" the military is nonsense.
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    Putin likely wants anyone but Biden to win due to Biden's close involvement in Ukraine during and since the 2013-14 revolution.

    Putin takes that whole situation extremely personally as do many Russians.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    I don't think they think Bernie is pro Russia, but that he helps divide the country (via accusations of socialist/communist propaganda from the right).

    Your statements regarding Bernie want9ing to "destroy" the military is nonsense.
    Maybe Bernie should drop out since hes clearly out of touch and nothing but divisive.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Why won't Trump simply say he denounces Russian interference? It took Bernie all of three seconds.

    But to answer the "why Bernie" questions.. obviously Trump will be the Rep nominee for the 2020 election. Sanders represents "socialism" or "communism" to the right, which further divides the country. Obviously Russia would rather have Bernie than Biden (or Hillary etc). Their primary goals are to divide us and get someone who will be the least hostile to Russia.

    Because facts and results matter.

    Trump can say that he denounces meddling. And then what? Liberals will still screech at every thing they don't like online as "russian trolls".

    We all know there is "good" meddling (Steel Dossier) and "bad" meddling (anything perceived to help the bad orange man).



    In the end, there is no evidence that any votes were changed by Russians. And a multi year investigation didn't show anything involving the Trump campaign. It's Mueller time!!! lolol
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...-2020-campaign

    And that's how you respond to allegations Russia is meddling in our elections.
    It sure is exactly how you respond when you are not the president.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    I don't think they think Bernie is pro Russia, but that he helps divide the country (via accusations of socialist/communist propaganda from the right).

    Your statements regarding Bernie wanting to "destroy" the military is nonsense.
    progressive tax on anyone making over 29k a year? do you honestly believe that will help the economy? Bernie fawns over places like soviet russia and communist Venezuela. He does not care about the US millitary being strong. Bernie getting elected would probably be the greatest thing that ever happened to Russia in modern time.
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    It sure is exactly how you respond when you are not the president.
    Right.. how the president responds. Should the president "respond" by firing the acting DNI because he reported that Russia was meddling? Is that the appropriate "presidential" response?
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    Originally Posted by jlick View Post
    progressive tax on anyone making over 29k a year? do you honestly believe that will help the economy? Bernie fawns over places like soviet russia and communist Venezuela. He does not care about the US millitary being strong. Bernie getting elected would probably be the greatest thing that ever happened to Russia in modern time.
    I understand that you've probably bought into the Fox News propaganda that Bernie wants Venezuelain socialism but that's not what this thread is about.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...-2020-campaign



    And that's how you respond to allegations Russia is meddling in our elections.


    The timing of this release is interesting though, given the fact he was briefed a month ago..
    always knew Bernie was a Russian asset.. Everything is coming together.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Right.. how the president responds. Should the president "respond" by firing the acting DNI because he reported that Russia was meddling? Is that the appropriate "presidential" response?
    I don't know the answer. But, if someone undermines the presidency by giving the enemy (Schiff) information that would be used against him, even though Trump had nothing to do with it, termination is a good option.
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