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    Could Israel Adesanya be potentially the Middleweight Goat?

    Standing at 6'4 with a 80 inch reach, not many fighters can deal with this former kickboxer turned mixed martial art champ.

    If he gets past Romero, meaning nullifying the terrifying wrestling of Yoel, his record would be 19-0 and his presence of dominance would reign supreme over the UFC middleweight division.

    Oh, and he has 80 professional kickboxing fights...

    His only knockout loss though was in his last kickboxing fight.

    This was it, at 1:20 minutes in





    Thoughts on Adesanya being potentially one of the Mma Goats?
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    If he keeps on winning sure.

    Silva held the title for 7 years and had some spectacular moments.

    I hate when someone gets on a few fight win streak and everyone starts calling them goat.
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    Originally Posted by Coach McGuirk View Post

    I hate when someone gets on a few fight win streak and everyone starts calling them goat.
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    He's a long way off from being the goat. I also don't see him as an invincible force, especially in the current climate of the sport where beasts are constantly emerging as the sport grows. If he meets a 28yo Yoel, it's all over.
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    He's not even close right now. Spider is #1.
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    Originally Posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
    If he keeps on winning sure.

    Silva held the title for 7 years and had some spectacular moments.

    I hate when someone gets on a few fight win streak and everyone starts calling them goat.
    this. he obviously has the potential but he hasn't even defended the title yet. lets check again in 7 years
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    I just keep doubting it lol

    Both his last two fights were against people who I felt should have won but were not their peak selves. Especially post career changing injury Bobby.

    I dont get it.

    Maybe if he performs well against Yoel I will believe.
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    We gonna act like Chael P Sonnen never lost a round at Middleweight?
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    fkn lol

    let him defend a few times maybe before we even entertain this discussion? with that said it'll be extremely difficult to be considered better than the spiderGOAT
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    OP is such a mark.
    where you been you lickle kun?
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    I dont think his resume is that impressive, if we're talking all-time.

    Gastelum is skillful but no legend. Adesanya got taken into deep water and did not have his way with him the whole time.

    Whittaker looked great IMO but he got caught before anyone got a chance to see it. I understand thats the game and yes adesanya did that, but he was fortunate not to have a gastelum repeat.

    Silva was an exhibition and izzy showed again he is tentative and afraid to let loose.

    Romero has the tools to beat him BUT i'm ready to excuse Romero already. Romero never utilises his wrestling, has bad fight IQ and will want to trade while betting his chin is stronger than izzy when he lands.


    A real test will be paulo costa. Izzy is a better fighter but this will be a point fighter vs a KO artist. I dont know if Costa is the guy to submit or ground and pound izzy but that's also a test he must pass.
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    Originally Posted by MJAffliction View Post
    He's not even close right now. Spider is #1.
    ^^This. He barely got by Silva who was more than a half decade past his prime.
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    He needs to beat both Romero and Costa before this is even a question
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    no way. Izzy was exposed by Kelvin Gastelum (Welterweight) and he'll be exposed again by Romero and/or Costa.
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    Originally Posted by GordonXXX View Post
    no way. Izzy was exposed by Kelvin Gastelum (Welterweight) and he'll be exposed again by Romero and/or Costa.
    this. he is very good at keeping good distance and picking his shots but, when he goes deep into his combos he gets exposed for not backing out of long combos fast enough.

    that being said. I think he has some low key jiu jitsu we don't know about and he's gonna submit people soon.
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    Originally Posted by GordonXXX View Post
    no way. Izzy was exposed by Kelvin Gastelum (Welterweight) and he'll be exposed again by Romero and/or Costa.
    Romero v costa was insane. Gonna rewatch it tonight
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    Romero v costa was insane. Gonna rewatch it tonight
    I just did without volume...Romero should’ve gotten the W
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    Adesanya is now claiming he wants to be the first to actually knock him out saying the other guys just phased him and he wants to actually put him out.

    Super disrespectful. Yoel is gonna fold this fool.
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    Originally Posted by KingSWRV View Post
    Adesanya is now claiming he wants to be the first to actually knock him out saying the other guys just phased him and he wants to actually put him out.

    Super disrespectful. Yoel is gonna fold this fool.
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    Originally Posted by BobLoblawBrah View Post
    Silva was an exhibition and izzy showed again he is tentative and afraid to let loose.

    Romero has the tools to beat him BUT i'm ready to excuse Romero already. Romero never utilises his wrestling, has bad fight IQ and will want to trade while betting his chin is stronger than izzy when he lands.


    A real test will be paulo costa. Izzy is a better fighter but this will be a point fighter vs a KO artist. I dont know if Costa is the guy to submit or ground and pound izzy but that's also a test he must pass.

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    The goat who is afraid to exchange and runs around the cage whenever pressured. If he didn’t have his height advantage, he wouldn’t be ****. He is lucky there isn’t a single Middleweight contender who is willing to wrestle his opponent.
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    A quick observation: during the fight tonight Joe mentioned that Israel is very much aware of his legacy. That Israel speaks about wanting to be remembered in MMA.

    No GOAT ever spoke that way in the midst of their career. All athletes have to be in the present, to be focused 100% on the next challenge. Every successful fighter/athlete always talks about how the next fight/game is all they are concerned about.

    So for Israel to be talking about his impact on the sport, his legacy, is huge red flag for his approach to fighting.
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    Adesanya is now claiming he wants to be the first to actually knock him out saying the other guys just phased him and he wants to actually put him out.

    Super disrespectful. Yoel is gonna fold this fool.
    Here after the fight. lmao @ his claims. You can't knock someone out with leg kicks and running around the cage for 25 minutes. Adesanya is a prick, especially with his stupid annoying ego and entrances. He had 6" reach advantage over Yoel and spent the entire fight running away.
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    Originally Posted by Mogambo View Post
    A quick observation: during the fight tonight Joe mentioned that Israel is very much aware of his legacy. That Israel speaks about wanting to be remembered in MMA.

    No GOAT ever spoke that way in the midst of their career. All athletes have to be in the present, to be focused 100% on the next challenge. Every successful fighter/athlete always talks about how the next fight/game is all they are concerned about.

    So for Israel to be talking about his impact on the sport, his legacy, is huge red flag for his approach to fighting.
    Pretty sure GSP spoke about legacy his entire title reign? That's part of the reason he left in 2013 - not wanting to go the Anderson Silva route.
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    Originally Posted by Mogambo View Post
    A quick observation: during the fight tonight Joe mentioned that Israel is very much aware of his legacy. That Israel speaks about wanting to be remembered in MMA.

    No GOAT ever spoke that way in the midst of their career. All athletes have to be in the present, to be focused 100% on the next challenge. Every successful fighter/athlete always talks about how the next fight/game is all they are concerned about.

    So for Israel to be talking about his impact on the sport, his legacy, is huge red flag for his approach to fighting.
    totally agree.. true goats never mention legacy, they only mention fights..
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    Originally Posted by CoffeeBlack77 View Post
    Pretty sure GSP spoke about legacy his entire title reign? That's part of the reason he left in 2013 - not wanting to go the Anderson Silva route.
    He left cause he thought he was getting brain damaged. He said he would forget entire days.
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