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    Can a boxer beat a grappler in a fight?

    Is it possible for a boxer to beat a grappler in a fight if they are equally skilled?

    Friends thinks a boxer can beat a wrestler/grappler in a street fight and I dont think so
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    one clean punch is all it takes. but if the wrestler gets the double leg, you are f ucked
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    Originally Posted by bfdehewdbyywhn View Post
    one clean punch is all it takes. but if the wrestler gets the double leg, you are f ucked
    This ^^^
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    Originally Posted by bfdehewdbyywhn View Post
    one clean punch is all it takes. but if the wrestler gets the double leg, you are f ucked
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    It would have to be a KO. If the boxer can defend a takedown it would be his only chance... if the grappler can defend punches then it's uneven IMO. Id put money on the wrestler. If the fight goes to the ground its game over.... I'm not a pro by any means but I can punch. I tried to mma fight a state champ wrestler in college and it didn't end well. He took me down and snapped my ankle up lol
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    I vote for sumo wrestler
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    Generally speaking UFC fighters with grappling/wrestling backgrounds have been dominant

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    100% of fights start standing up. So yes.
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    In 1 on 1 sport fighting, UFC has shown that grapplers are consistently going to win.

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    Usually no. If the wrestler/grappler has even the most basic defensive training or actually has boxing/kickboxing training as well, he will destroy a boxer.


    Edit: I speak from experience— hs/college wrestler, and somewhere around 50 or so smokers mixed between mma and kickboxing. Also, a lot of street fights when I was a lot more dumb lol.
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    Yes, but Grappler is generally at a big advantage (1 on 1) unless they really suck at takedowns - or there is some massive discrepancy somewhere.
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    I vote for sumo wrestler

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    boxer would get ****ed easily if the grappler can take down the boxer. i feel like the grappler would just grab the boxer's arms then drop him
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    Most of the time the grappler wins but every fight starts standing, thought about couture vs toney when I saw thread title
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    honestly a good muay thai guy probably smokes both.

    that wrestlers gonna get kneed in the head going for takedowns.
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    I love boxing, and have boxed in amateur circuits. I also practice BJJ.

    One thing that always bothers me about these questions is this: they tend to ignore the fact that boxing was invented for sport. It's a specific competition based style of fighting.

    Sure, knowing how to box is immensely helpful in some situations.

    But it's a sport, in which you dedicate yourself to only using your fists. This conversation always comes up and I genuinely think that it's important to have an ecclectic blend of experience as a fighter, especially if your goal is to effectively defend yourself.
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    honestly a good muay thai guy probably smokes both.

    that wrestlers gonna get kneed in the head going for takedowns.
    Yeah...typically no.
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    In a ring, its almost impossible.

    There is a slim chance though and that is if the wrestler/MMA fighter wants to show off a bit for the crowd and tries to stand with the boxer for a little bit.





    Mercer was a legit top 10 heavy boxer in the 90s which was a pretty talented era.


    Sylvia just stood there in range in front of him which was a mistake.


    Kimbo Slice who was obviously less talented and experienced in MMA and wrestling compared to Sylvia, knew he had to get Mercer to the ground ASAP and won by submission because even whatever limited ground game stuff he worked on was enough to submit a boxer with no experience in that realm.

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    I love how people revert back to the ufc. Like the ufc and it's octagon and rule set replicate a fight.

    In the UFC you get world-class and elite grapplers and garbage fire boxers with few exceptions. And if they are boxers, like Chris Lytle, they fully cross-trained. Can a boxer beat a wrestler in the UFC? Sure, it happens all the time. Chris Lytle beat Matt Serra, right? GSP mashed in the great wrestler Jake Shield's face only using a jab and footwork. Do all boxers suck on the ground? Absolutely not, Kermit Cintrón is was a decent HS wrestler who was totally willing to step into the octagon but Dana didn't want him. Bet your ass the Klitschko family Christmas has been destroyed by a brothers wrestling match. FYI- opinion, the best boxer in the UFC ever- BJ Penn. He used a jab and footwork as a boxer should in the UFC.


    This is a street fight. The ground sucks. You don't want to go for a hard takedown on the street. You don't want to ground and pound because one slipped punch turns your hand to dust. There are often multiple people hanging around. Watch a bunch of youtube street fights. All of a sudden it's not like the UFC. Not every fighter has elite grappling. The world is not controlled. Boxing suddenly looks more appealing in closed quarters, on gravel and in a basement full of frat boys.

    The other big real-life combat flaw in wrestling over boxing is that wrestling has no technical means to cause harm or finish a fight. Wrestling in its sporting form is to control someone's body and pin shoulders or score points. Boxing is meant to hurt, harm and KO. Earlier UFC wrestlers like Dan Severn and Randy Coleman have both said that they had a hard time hurting people. Mark Coleman freaked out the first time he made someone's eyes rolled back in their head.
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    Depends on how good your takedown defense is. If you know how to sprawl and box your good to go
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    If we're talking about a real fight with no rules, then styles are not the issue; it's the willingness to hurt the other person and disable them in the most brutal manner possible.

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    If they land a clean shot yes. However if you have a boxer who knows how to sprawl and has at least basic knowledge of grappling defense then the chances are much greater.
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    Originally Posted by Shortfuze View Post
    If we're talking about a real fight with no rules, then styles are not the issue; it's the willingness to hurt the other person and disable them in the most brutal manner possible.

    *edit: the best defense against a takedown is to yell out in a really effeminate voice, "Stop! You're giving me an erection!"
    Yeah the thing about street fighting is that it isn't like the MMA where you have a cushy mat under you and lots of rules to protect you on the ground. Real life street fighting ground game involves eye gouging, ball kicking, use of sharp or blunt objects, there's a lot to worry about that you don't even have to think about in a MMA fight.
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