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    Mass shooting: Nine dead after two attacks in Germany

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    Nine people were killed in two shootings at shisha bars in the western German city of Hanau.

    Several other people were also injured after a gunman opened fire at 22:00 local time (21:00 GMT) on Wednesday, police said.

    The suspect was later found dead at his home, along with the body of a second person, according to police.

    There appeared to be no other perpetrators, they added, and said the investigation was ongoing.

    The motive for the attack is unclear.

    Bild newspaper reported that the suspect was a German citizen with a firearms licence, and that ammunition and gun magazines had been found in his car.

    Should Germany tighten its gun laws?
    The first shooting was at Midnight shisha bar in the city centre, while the second was at the Arena Bar & Cafe in Hanau's Kesselstadt neighbourhood.

    The clientele were reported to have been predominantly Kurdish.

    The shootings sparked a seven-hour manhunt, while officers searched for what they thought could have been multiple gunmen.

    The initial death toll was eight, but this was raised to nine in the early hours of the following morning after one of the wounded victims succumbed to their injuries.

    Hanau's local MP Katja Leikert said it had been a "terrible night", adding: "Hopefully the injured recover swiftly. It is a horrific scenario for us all."

    Witnesses reported hearing about a dozen gunshots in the first shisha bar.

    Can-Luca Frisenna, who works at a kiosk at the scene of one of the shootings, said his father and brother were in the area when the attack took place.

    "It's like being in a film, it's like a bad joke, that someone is playing a joke on us," he told Reuters. "I can't grasp yet everything that has happened. My colleagues, all my colleagues, they are like my family - they can't understand it either."

    Hanau, in the state of Hessen, is about 25km (15 miles) east of Frankfurt.

    In a statement, the state police force said: "The home address was blocked off extensively and searched by special police forces. Two other bodies were found. One of the dead people is most likely the culprit. There are currently no indications of other perpetrators.

    "Investigations into the identity of the victims and the suspected perpetrator are ongoing."

    This attack comes four days after another shooting in Berlin, near a Turkish comedy show at the Tempodrom concert venue, which killed one person.

    Gun laws in Germany are among the most stringent in the world, and were tightened further in recent years after other mass shootings.
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    Thots and prayers.

    Crazy how this is international news in a place like Germany but would just be a random Wednesday in America. Really makes you think.
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    Don't know WTF a shisha bar is but it doesn't sound like the usual German bar with shotskis and conga lines and Sweet Caroline that we all love.
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    Well at least they have the proper solution and that is tighten already extremely tight gun laws.

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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    Thots and prayers.

    Crazy how this is international news in a place like Germany but would just be a random Wednesday in America. Really makes you think.
    You are thinking about black on black crime, that's just another day. This would be bigtime news here as well.
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    Thots and prayers.

    Crazy how this is international news in a place like Germany but would just be a random Wednesday in America. Really makes you think.
    Neah, it happens all the time there. It's just in the form of cars, acid, and stabbings. Murder is going to happen, regardless of restrictions on the devices used.
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    Tighten the tight gun laws even more?
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    Good thing Germany does not have a history of confiscating firearms.
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    Thots and prayers.

    Crazy how this is international news in a place like Germany but would just be a random Wednesday in America. Really makes you think.
    And a random ANY day in Chicago.

    Probably a low end kill count day in Chicago.

    Yes, it should make one think, about ineffectiveness of gun bans, given Germany’s tight gun laws. Let’s think together, why is it that nobody ever shoots up a school where Obama’s daughters go to school, or the NRA headquarters... hmmm.... this is a tough one...
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    But i thought strict gun laws prevented this stuff?
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    if this was done by a non german media and officials would tell us thats is all our fault and we can not be prejudice towards foreigners/muslims or whatever and we better be more welcoming towards other civilizations that invade the country.

    but since its a german “these evil hateful racist germans😡😡“
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    Originally Posted by BOZZ View Post
    But i thought strict gun laws prevented this stuff?
    It's possible that shootings like this would be more frequent if you quadrupled the amount of guns in circulation within Germany and loosened laws allowing anyone and everyone a right to own one.
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    It's possible that shootings like this would be more frequent if you quadrupled the amount of guns in circulation within Germany and loosened laws allowing anyone and everyone a right to own one.
    Guess we'll never know since there aren't any places like that.
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    Originally Posted by BOZZ View Post
    But i thought strict gun laws prevented this stuff?
    To be fair the rate of these events or dying from a mass shooting is much lower in Germany than the USA.
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    Originally Posted by Ten_Hearts View Post
    To be fair the rate of these events or dying from a mass shooting is much lower in Germany than the USA.
    While your chances of being mowed down by a car, stabbed, and having acid thrown on you is way higher.
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    Originally Posted by BOZZ View Post
    Guess we'll never know since there aren't any places like that.
    The United States is just like that:

    -has 6 times the amount of guns as Germany ; source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estima...ita_by_country
    -has far looser gun laws than Germany
    -gives a constitutional right to all citizens to bear arms
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    Has anyone heard from Doric or DukeofWoodbury?

    I'm just happy the ****tard killed himself. Wish that was the first step all these extremists took.
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    Originally Posted by BOZZ View Post
    But i thought strict gun laws prevented this stuff?
    It does. Again, the fact that this is international news proves that point. How many people in Germany die from gun violence? Compare that to the United States. It’s almost as if having fewer guns leads to fewer gun deaths. Shocking, I know.
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    Originally Posted by hendrixfreak70 View Post
    While your chances of being mowed down by a car, stabbed, and having acid thrown on you is way higher.
    USA ranks pretty in regards to most violent crimes compared to Germany.
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    Someone was killed in a car accident I guess seat belts don’t work!!!!
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    It's possible that shootings like this would be more frequent if you quadrupled the amount of guns in circulation within Germany and loosened laws allowing anyone and everyone a right to own one.
    Thought you were a Canadian that supported the second amendment?
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    It’s almost as if having fewer guns leads to fewer gun deaths. Shocking, I know.
    Obviously if we could get rid of all the guns in the US we wouldn't have a problem. But since that has 0% chance of ever happening, we have to look at realistic measures and none of which will make an appreciable difference in lowering gun violence.
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    The United States is just like that:

    -has 6 times the amount of guns as Germany ; source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estima...ita_by_country


    -has far looser gun laws than Germany
    -gives a constitutional right to all citizens to bear arms
    Except not everyone in the US can own a firearm and you know this and are being disingenuous or, you're ignorant and shouldn't be speaking on the topic. So which is it?
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    Originally Posted by Ten_Hearts View Post
    USA ranks pretty in regards to most violent crimes compared to Germany.
    You going to be like Isingmodel and post the five most dangerous cities in the US?
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    Well at least they have the proper solution and that is tighten already extremely tight gun laws.

    /sarcasm off
    Nukes my mind reading the OP, what I see is: "crazed gunmen slaughters 9 innocents in cold blood. Surely the next logical step is to make it even HARDER for the innocent civilians to obtain a gun for their own personal protection. It just makes sense guys!"

    It is so dumb, so ridiculous, soo opposite of common sense and practical that my brain has a hard time even processing it srs. Their argument is soo backwards it's fascinating anyone at all agrees with it
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    It does. Again, the fact that this is international news proves that point. How many people in Germany die from gun violence? Compare that to the United States. It’s almost as if having fewer guns leads to fewer gun deaths. Shocking, I know.
    No it doesnt. Sit your ass down while real adults have a discussion
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    Originally Posted by ClivesTriceps View Post
    No it doesnt. Sit your ass down while real adults have a discussion
    Care to dispute the statistics Tammy posted? I’ll wait.
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