I hadn't looked into what exactly the guy was running on this year, but I just found this article on all of the candidates and their plans:
https://taxfoundation.org/comparing-...al-candidates/
He wants to keep Trump's tax cut rates for all income levels up to $250,000, and then put large tax increases on incomes above that, including a top rate of 52% on incomes above $10 million.
Contrast with Biden, who wants to just reverse TCJA rates, meaning tax hikes for the middle class, and no additional tax burden on the very wealthy. No bueno.
This should frankly be what more of the Democrats run on as far as income tax is concerned. Keep them relatively low on everyone up to and including the upper middle class, raise taxes significantly on income above that.
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02-13-2020, 05:44 AM #1
Bernie's income tax proposal is the best in the race
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IMO talking about "tax rates" is pointless unless you look at the other factors such as deductions. You could have a tax rate of 99% on the "rich" but if they're able to work their finances down to an effective tax rate of 25% lets say what's the point?
The top 1 percent’s effective tax rate has consistently been below the top marginal income tax rate. Though this IRS data set only reaches back to 1986, another data set shows that the difference between these two tax rates used to be even greater. For example, in the 1950s, when the top marginal income tax rate reached 92 percent, the top 1 percent of taxpayers paid an effective rate of only 16.9 percent. Although the two data sets are not strictly comparable, they nevertheless show the consistency of the gap between the top marginal income tax rate and the effective rate.*PUREBLOOD CREW*
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"Do you think SHE actually felt like that was a sexual thing he was doing? She's like 6. Only an actual p3do would think that she thought he was groping her, too."
"Not that it's impossible to touch a minor inappropriately, but it is true that a 6 year old girl will not recognize someone putting a hand on their chest as groping, whether it is inappropriate or not."
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How can Bernie keep the tax cuts for the middle class if Trump didn't cut taxes for the middle class? I'm confused. I need to go to CNN for the answer, because I was specifically told the middle class didn't get a tax cut. IN FACT I heard many lefties say middle class people were paying MORE. I'm pretty sure those people were non-partisan math majors as well. Totally trustworthy.
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Here, use Bernie's own tool. Homeboy makes no secret of it...
https://www.bernietax.com/
Your annual disposable income would be lower
with a Sanders tax plan.
No thanks Berno, I'll pass lol."Do you think SHE actually felt like that was a sexual thing he was doing? She's like 6. Only an actual p3do would think that she thought he was groping her, too."
"Not that it's impossible to touch a minor inappropriately, but it is true that a 6 year old girl will not recognize someone putting a hand on their chest as groping, whether it is inappropriate or not."
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OP will never make 250K in his life..................so of course he is OK with this.
My wife and I are currently taxed at 32%. It will go up to 35 percent withing the next year. How much more of my money should be passed along to peasants such as yourself OP?▪█───█▪ Everybody wants to be a bodybuilder, but nobody want to lift no heavy-azz weights. ▪█───█▪
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"Do you think SHE actually felt like that was a sexual thing he was doing? She's like 6. Only an actual p3do would think that she thought he was groping her, too."
"Not that it's impossible to touch a minor inappropriately, but it is true that a 6 year old girl will not recognize someone putting a hand on their chest as groping, whether it is inappropriate or not."
- Jayarbie
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=182007113&p=1671975503#post1671975503
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Bernie is also trying to get stock taxed as regular income, so under Bernie they couldn't get around it that way. Obviously wealthy people have a million other ways to get their money and get around taxes. I personally think something should be done about the capital gains taxes for people who make a living off of it or use it to get around taxes. I haven't thought it all the way thru, but I've thought that if you make over X percentage of your income for the year in capital gains...it should be taxed as regular income. The percentage would be a point that separates people like me and you cashing in some stocks vs someone who makes their real income off of stocks.
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https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42729.pdf
The average tax rate for the top 0.01% (one taxpayer in 10,000) was about 60% in 1945 and fell to 24.2% by 1990. The average tax rate for the top 0.1% (one taxpayer in 1,000) was 55% in 1945 and also fell to 24.2% by 1990, following a similar downward path as the tax rate for the top 0.01%. Between 1990 and 1995, the average tax rate for both the top 0.1% and top 0.01% increased to about 31%. After 1995, the average tax rate for the top 0.01% was lower than that for the top 0.1%.Misc Crypto Crew
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I knew you would bring that up. How many people actually paid that 90% tax rate? How much money did you have to make to be taxed at that 90% tax rate accounting for inflation? Who in their right mind would stick around and pay 90 cents on a dollar to uncle Sam?
You socialists are really starting to sound like the utopian communists you really are. Taxing people at high rates is only gonna make them more bitter. I can’t wait for all the rich people to leave America if Bernie or another commie gets elected.
Canada is the best example of high taxes and yet we can’t even afford to repair our infrastructure without going into huge deficits or raising taxes every so often. But don’t let basic economics stop you guys.
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"Do you think SHE actually felt like that was a sexual thing he was doing? She's like 6. Only an actual p3do would think that she thought he was groping her, too."
"Not that it's impossible to touch a minor inappropriately, but it is true that a 6 year old girl will not recognize someone putting a hand on their chest as groping, whether it is inappropriate or not."
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I’m more interested in these so called “wealth” taxes that are supposed to target high net worth individuals who do not rely on a standard income.
I’m not against taxing those with 100’s of millions or billions more, in exchange for lowering taxes on middle class Americans.
Yes, I’m aware they already pay a great deal in taxes.
No, they aren’t going to abandon the biggest consumer market on Earth due to a tax increase, especially after boosting disposable income and buying power for the middle class.Trump/DeSantis 2024
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