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    Best: Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson, Jackson, Polk, Eisenhower

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    Originally Posted by Dorich View Post
    Best: Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump

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    Get out of here you liberal freak.
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    Best:Abraham Lincoln
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    Originally Posted by DukeOfWoodBerry View Post
    Best: Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson, Jackson, Polk, Eisenhower

    Worst: LBJ, Bush 43, Obama, Grant
    Grant really was terrible...
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    How many Americans died under Lincoln?

    Also, his election legit caused a civil war.
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    Originally Posted by ClivesTriceps View Post
    Trump: Best President

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    Carter: 2nd worst
    This is undeniable.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    How many Americans died under Lincoln?

    Also, his election legit caused a civil war.
    He freed the slaves from the democrats..

    though it would have been cheaper to buy them all to free them than to have a civil war.
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    Wait didn't Republicans think Trump was better than Lincoln.. and Democrats thought Obama was better than.. some other Dem? lol
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    How many Americans died under Lincoln?

    Also, his election legit caused a civil war.
    Lmao.. he gets elected and therefore caused a civil war?

    I guess my previous post was answered.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Lmao.. he gets elected and therefore caused a civil war?

    I guess my previous post was answered.
    Sounds like 2020
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    Sounds like 2020
    you know damn well there wont be another civil war. Republicans would win anyway. We have most of the guns and ammo
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    Originally Posted by ClivesTriceps View Post
    you know damn well there wont be another civil war. Republicans would win anyway. We have most of the guns and ammo
    Against the United States military?
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    Against the United States military?
    Most of the military leans to the right. I can count the number of people I met in the military and in the contracting world I've met that leans towards the left on one hand. I'm telling you right now that 95% of those people would not do sh*t against the civilian population.
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    Originally Posted by ClivesTriceps View Post
    Trump: Best President

    Obama: Worst President

    Carter: 2nd worst
    These aren't serious posts, are they?
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    Civil War conversation today is dumb. Just stop. It hurts this forum.

    Edit: Lol who am I kidding.. this forum is fuked lol
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    Originally Posted by DukeOfWoodBerry View Post
    These aren't serious posts, are they?
    what's your list then? Aside from Reagan, who's better than Trump? The answer to that question is phucking no one
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    Trump so far is in the running for best. Reagan was really good.

    Carter hands down has to be the worse in recent times. He basically appeased the USSR while they expanded. They openly mocked him and he just took it like he is Bernie Sanders. He mishandled the situation in IRAN creating the situation of tensions in the middle east and the situation in Iran today is mostly because of him. He set up the Sub-Prime Mortgaging that lead to the housing bubble that crashed in recent memory.



    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    How many Americans died under Lincoln?

    Also, his election legit caused a civil war.
    One way to look at it but the pressure cooker was already redlined when he took office. James Buchanan's policies were what was causing the situation to get hotter and he did almost nothing to act. Basically, Lincoln walked into a chit storm.
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    Worst: Harding, Buchanan, Pierce, GWB. Anyone who says Obama is a shill, troll, or completely ignorant of US history.

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    Originally Posted by Jasonw1178 View Post
    Trump so far is in the running for best. Reagan was really good.

    Carter hands down has to be the worse in recent times. He basically appeased the USSR while they expanded. They openly mocked him and he just took it like he is Bernie Sanders. He mishandled the situation in IRAN creating the situation of tensions in the middle east and the situation in Iran today is mostly because of him. He set up the Sub-Prime Mortgaging that lead to the housing bubble that crashed in recent memory.





    One way to look at it but the pressure cooker was already redlined when he took office. James Buchanan's policies were what was causing the situation to get hotter and he did almost nothing to act. Basically, Lincoln walked into a chit storm.
    How is Trump in the running to be the best LOL? His accomplishments don't even touch the best Presidents we've had. What are his signature achievements?

    LBJ was the worst in modern times and overall. Bush 43 was also much worse than Carter.
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    Originally Posted by DukeOfWoodBerry View Post
    How is Trump in the running to be the best LOL? His accomplishments don't even touch the best Presidents we've had. What are his signature achievements?

    LBJ was the worst in modern times and overall. Bush 43 was also much worse than Carter.
    Bush 43 handled 9-11 well. He did some things right, but then screwed up a lot too. Name one thing Carter handled right?

    Trump, just alone standing up to China. China was manipulating the trade situation and Obama and even Bush allowed it because a few very wealthy people here in the US were getting rich. A dominate China would not be a good thing. How about ending the Korean war officially? I know things aren't perfect there, but a vast improvement. How about the economy, record low unemployment, all of that? The Tax cuts, ect.
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    Originally Posted by Jasonw1178 View Post
    Bush 43 handled 9-11 well. He did some things right, but then screwed up a lot too. Name one thing Carter handled right?

    Trump, just alone standing up to China. China was manipulating the trade situation and Obama and even Bush allowed it because a few very wealthy people here in the US were getting rich. A dominate China would not be a good thing. How about ending the Korean war officially? I know things aren't perfect there, but a vast improvement. How about the economy, record low unemployment, all of that? The Tax cuts, ect.
    Bush 43 did almost nothing right. His response to 9/11 was getting us involved in ME quagmires that we still can't get out of by lying. 9/11 also happened under his watch so he is partly responsible for it. Terrible mismanagement of both foreign policy and the economy. His approval rating was in the 20s by the end of his Presidency he was so awful.

    Trump has some accomplishments. I actually agree the stuff with China has probably been his biggest accomplishment. Getting the trade deficit to come down was really good even though it's still a very large deficit. The Korean War hasn't been officially ended, no treaty has been signed. That would be a pretty good accomplishment too.

    Tax cuts is whatever, lots of Presidents have done tax cuts, including Bush 43. It's too soon to judge the Trump economic record. The numbers look good, but you should consider that we are running huge deficits and still have artificially low interest rates. We're running a stimulus economy with both expansionary fiscal and monetary policy. This leaves the country no tools the next time there is an economic slowdown.
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    Originally Posted by DukeOfWoodBerry View Post
    Bush 43 did almost nothing right. His response to 9/11 was getting us involved in ME quagmires that we still can't get out of by lying. 9/11 also happened under his watch so he is partly responsible for it. Terrible mismanagement of both foreign policy and the economy. His approval rating was in the 20s by the end of his Presidency he was so awful.

    Trump has some accomplishments. I actually agree the stuff with China has probably been his biggest accomplishment. Getting the trade deficit to come down was really good even though it's still a very large deficit. The Korean War hasn't been officially ended, no treaty has been signed. That would be a pretty good accomplishment too.

    Tax cuts is whatever, lots of Presidents have done tax cuts, including Bush 43. It's too soon to judge the Trump economic record. The numbers look good, but you should consider that we are running huge deficits and still have artificially low interest rates. We're running a stimulus economy with both expansionary fiscal and monetary policy. This leaves the country no tools the next time there is an economic slowdown.
    W also utterly destroyed the Republican brand, and handed Obama the keys to the country while infesting thousands of federal appointments with John Roberts globalist types

    The modern left understands and acknowledges all Ws hard work destroying conservatism, which is why they now praise him as some kind of kindly old uncle figure. Ironically many conservacucks and boomers still won't call out bush for what he did (much less ever touch on who the neocons were and what their aims were)
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    Originally Posted by DukeOfWoodBerry View Post
    Bush 43 did almost nothing right. His response to 9/11 was getting us involved in ME quagmires that we still can't get out of by lying. 9/11 also happened under his watch so he is partly responsible for it. Terrible mismanagement of both foreign policy and the economy. His approval rating was in the 20s by the end of his Presidency he was so awful.

    Trump has some accomplishments. I actually agree the stuff with China has probably been his biggest accomplishment. Getting the trade deficit to come down was really good even though it's still a very large deficit. The Korean War hasn't been officially ended, no treaty has been signed. That would be a pretty good accomplishment too.

    Tax cuts is whatever, lots of Presidents have done tax cuts, including Bush 43. It's too soon to judge the Trump economic record. The numbers look good, but you should consider that we are running huge deficits and still have artificially low interest rates. We're running a stimulus economy with both expansionary fiscal and monetary policy. This leaves the country no tools the next time there is an economic slowdown.
    You can dislike Bush all you want, but the bolded is not true. We were not lied to as to why we went into Iraq and Afghanistan. It was actually very transparent. Bush told the American public and the UN that Iraq maintained its chemical weapon stockpile (true) and was buying materials that were components to making nuclear warheads (also true and confirmed by the French government). He, nor his administration, at any time stated that Iraq HAD nuclear weapons. People that believe he did are either stupid (in that they assumed WMD's = nuclear weapons) or are just disingenuous.

    This rewrite of history that we were lied to is nothing more than buyers remorse for those wars.

    For the record, I still think Bush is probably in the bottom 15 or so presidents. He's not close to the 5 worst. Maybe borderline 10 worst.
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