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    Originally Posted by elterrible987 View Post
    People parrot that all the time but its not entirely true. Intel still has the best IPC and best performance in games. Ryzen 3 is also picky on ram, needs fast ram to perform the best and the 570 chipset motherboards are expensive as chit.

    With the last holiday deals, the i7 9700 was still a better buy IMO for gaming at $300 during the sales vs the comparable AMD equivalent. It would have better performance and you dont need as expensive motherboard and ram. All the counter arguments I seen were just people saying "but but what IF they want to do video editing or live stream their games", not everyone is into that.

    I wont upgrade until later in the year, intels next series is likely to have HT across the board, negating AMD's biggest advantage for the last few years.
    disagree. while intel peforms slightly better in games, its only at 1080p, 1440p 4k is marginal.
    Ram is cheap, even 3200mhz +
    AMD motherboards are cheaper than intel for same components
    You get a CPU cooler.

    also thread derailed.

    PS5 will be good.....but they need to fix their controller....thumb sticks too close together, for small asian hands.
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    Originally Posted by Smunks View Post
    disagree. while intel peforms slightly better in games, its only at 1080p, 1440p 4k is marginal.
    Ram is cheap, even 3200mhz +
    AMD motherboards are cheaper than intel for same components
    You get a CPU cooler.

    also thread derailed.

    PS5 will be good.....but they need to fix their controller....thumb sticks too close together, for small asian hands.
    Ryzen are also getting one more generation on the same chipset and a free cooler that is amazing. Intel is scummy and changes chipset like underwear.
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    I dont think it's expensive at $450 but speaking from experience getting a console on day 1 is not worth it due to very limited amount of games especially exclusives.

    Also lol at people saying $1000 phone lasts 1-2 years is pure bs.
    Only way it lasts that long is if you want the latest and greatest. I have note 9 for almost 2 years and I plan on using it for at least 3 more years. Heck still have my iphone 7 plus which is perfectly fine phone to use even right now for 99% of people.

    I paid $1000 for note 9 and would never pay $1000 for a new phone again even though I think note 9 is amazing.
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    will be waiting in line like a pleb for when it drops dont care what they cost. will get the "pro" if they have it at launch
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    Originally Posted by Criollo View Post
    will get the "pro" if they have it at launch
    Same, but if such a thing exists they've sure been able to keep it a secret so far.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Same, but if such a thing exists they've sure been able to keep it a secret so far.
    yea i dont expect them to but it would be a nice surprise if they did. wonder what it would be priced at if the normal one is 450
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    Originally Posted by Criollo View Post
    yea i dont expect them to but it would be a nice surprise if they did. wonder what it would be priced at if the normal one is 450
    Probably $100ish more I would think.
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    Tech People: The Next Gen Video Game consoles better not cost more than $500 even with all their technology or else they wont sell.

    Also Tech People: Samsung's new touch screen flip phone costs a modest $1400 and sold out in 1 day.
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    Originally Posted by BearyManilowe View Post
    Tech People: The Next Gen Video Game consoles better not cost more than $500 even with all their technology or else they wont sell.
    All these moron bloggers, etc, must be really disconnected from what actual end users are saying. I haven't heard anyone say they thought $500 would be outrageous given rumored hardware specs.
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    Originally Posted by SipNPiz View Post
    advertising the price of a gaming system which lasts 5-7 years next to a $1000 cell phone that lasts 1-2 years seems like a good marketing strategy furreal
    nah what they should do is market it on a contract like a cell phone. drop 100 straight up then another 25 each month for the next 24 months.

    BRB thats so much better than paying 500 day 1.

    BRB actually end up paying 700

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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Same, but if such a thing exists they've sure been able to keep it a secret so far.
    I really hope they have been able to keep a "Pro" quiet. Honestly, I'd gladly jerk off my uncle for a PS5Pro at launch later this year. Sony has done a great job lately, making MS a joke, but knowing MS has a a system at both ends of the spec and price range really makes me think they are better positioned for launch. If Sony is thinking one mid range system will bring in everyone, I dunno, I am concerned those seeking low and high end will be tempted to go Xbox.
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    Originally Posted by elterrible987 View Post
    People parrot that all the time but its not entirely true. Intel still has the best IPC and best performance in games. Ryzen 3 is also picky on ram, needs fast ram to perform the best and the 570 chipset motherboards are expensive as chit.

    With the last holiday deals, the i7 9700 was still a better buy IMO for gaming at $300 during the sales vs the comparable AMD equivalent. It would have better performance and you dont need as expensive motherboard and ram. All the counter arguments I seen were just people saying "but but what IF they want to do video editing or live stream their games", not everyone is into that.

    I wont upgrade until later in the year, intels next series is likely to have HT across the board, negating AMD's biggest advantage for the last few years.
    The problem with Intel is that they are having a CPU shortage right now.

    It's at all levels - datacenter size, mobile, and desktop. It's been dragging on for a year and it's supposed to go on for at least another quarter or two, and they won't tell anyone why. Even for companies like HP and Dell that use Intel processors in their laptops, they're not getting enough chips to manufacture their product, so Intel's problem is now their problem. They've gone up to Intel in company earnings meetings and asked point-blank, "hey, what's the deal". Intel's response has always been ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    So that's why Intel chips are expensive as fuk right now, and there's no guarantee that they'd be able to make enough chips for next-gen gaming consoles even if Microsoft and Sony were willing to pay. For Sony, going with AMD makes a ton of sense. But I'm shocked that Microsoft would still turn their back on Intel, given that they've been joined at the hip for the longest time.
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    Just LOLZ @ paying 500$ for a console. Might as well invest that money into a PC.

    Not paying a dime over 400$
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    Originally Posted by LtGoose View Post
    Just LOLZ @ paying 500$ for a console. Might as well invest that money into a PC.

    Not paying a dime over 400$
    If you're building from total scratch, you're not going to build a PC even remotely close to what the PS5's hardware will be for $500. Go troll somewhere else.
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    I'm an Xbox guy and I think both consoles are going to come out at around $450-$500. Whichever console is cheaper will probably sell the most, regardless of specs. Xbox One was $100 more than PS4 at launch due to the Kinect and it pretty much murdered them at the start of the last console war. I think Xbox has the right mindset this time around. They are going to offer two consoles, one being cheap and the other being the "Pro". They also aren't going to have exclusives on the Xbox Series X, which will give a 2 year buffer for people to play the new games and then upgrade. I think Xbox kind of fukked up too when they tried to make Xbox One a multimedia center, when now your entire TV can have smart capabilities with Apps and what not.

    Either company might even sell the consoles at buildprice or at a loss because they know the money is made on everything after that. If selling it at $400 means you take a $50 loss per unit, but will end up selling more, then you'll eventually rake in money from memberships, games, controllers, etc. I think Xbox will have a slight edge this time around, but Playstation has the momentum from PS4 which will carry into good sales.
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    Im not a console guy, but does it really matter if its 400 or 500 bucks for you? Surely it makes a difference for the company regarding profit but unless you are a kid and living from pocket money its not that much of a deal. Especially if you consider that its an investment for the next 5-8 years.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    If you're building from total scratch, you're not going to build a PC even remotely close to what the PS5's hardware will be for $500. Go troll somewhere else.
    Try harder. I said "invest" the money, not completely build one for 500$. Spend another 300$ & you'll have your 60FPS computer.

    If you can't build a computer for 800$ then just stick to your overpriced IBUYPower builds, poser
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    Originally Posted by LtGoose View Post
    Try harder. I said "invest" the money, not completely build one for 500$. Spend another 300$ & you'll have your 60FPS computer.

    If you can't build a computer for 800$ then just stick to your overpriced IBUYPower builds, poser
    Kind of a silly sentiment since for that same $800, at a $500 entry point I could have my PS5 and:
    -God of War equivalent
    -Last of Us 2
    -Horizon: Second Dawn (whatever it will be called)
    -Ghosts of Tsushima
    And
    -days gone 2

    All games I cant even get on my chitty low end budget $800 PC.

    It really depends on what games you're looking to try to play.
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    Originally Posted by LtGoose View Post
    Try harder. I said "invest" the money, not completely build one for 500$. Spend another 300$ & you'll have your 60FPS computer.

    If you can't build a computer for 800$ then just stick to your overpriced IBUYPower builds, poser
    Cool story. You'll have an $800 PC that STILL won't perform as well as a PS5 and still wont be able to play Sony exclusives. Nice!
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    Originally Posted by M3lony View Post
    Im not a console guy, but does it really matter if its 400 or 500 bucks for you? Surely it makes a difference for the company regarding profit but unless you are a kid and living from pocket money its not that much of a deal. Especially if you consider that its an investment for the next 5-8 years.
    Most gamers are casual retards. This isn't the PC crowd we're talking about where they can update their systems with $300 chips. Consoles consist mostly of casuals who want cheap easy games.
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    Originally Posted by LtGoose View Post
    Try harder. I said "invest" the money, not completely build one for 500$. Spend another 300$ & you'll have your 60FPS computer.

    If you can't build a computer for 800$ then just stick to your overpriced IBUYPower builds, poser
    But then you'd have a PC.

    You must be Podunks' alt. Just as stupid.
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