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    bernie promises a bunch of bullsht. just lol if we buy it and nominate the guy

    so in order to address education gaps or whatever, he has the lazy ass "free college" and loan forgiveness stance or whatever. yeah, no.. stop being lazy and come up with solutions that actually have a chance.

    the moderate lane is the bigger populace, it's just not as loud. we'll see how it plays out

    free healthcare with no public option. america is NOT for that plan. and i'll eat my shoe if it's proven otherwise
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    Originally Posted by Nelly87 View Post
    This is what pisses me off about "taxes" - I break just about even, may get a few hundred back from federal but may owe state a few hundred. I pay 24%, 1% off from a quarter of my income goes to the feds. My wife, kids, myself are not burdens to society. We pay our own healthcare, all of our own bills, pay chitloads in taxes. Money we make, taxed, money we spend, taxed.

    Yet - people who make under a certain amount and have kids sittin here gettin like 14k+ in tax money. They see it as a paycheck. Our system is fukked. Safety nets are supposed to be temporary, not a leech system.
    -BRB food stamps
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    -BRB file "taxes" and get more fat paycheck.

    It's fukked. I could just about quit my job and live my same lifestyle if I wanted to be a POS.
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    damn as each day passes im becoming more and more anti-bernie. fuuuuark
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    Originally Posted by DuracellBunny View Post
    He has never had a real private sector job, has never run a company and has never managed to get his healthcare BS up and running in his own tiny little state.

    He's a guy who hasn't got a fking clue how to implement anything, telling other people who have no clue how to implement anything, that his plan to solve all their money troubles is to stop relying on golden eggs and kill the goose to get all it's gold.
    oh so you agree with his policies but don't think he can implement them?

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    Originally Posted by Random260 View Post
    Well personality wise Bernie is a cuck. Trump tells it like it is.

    Policy wise Bernie is a socialist. He wants
    Medicare for all $$$$$$
    Raise min wage $$$$
    Green new deal $$$$$
    Ban fracking $$$$$
    Raise teacher wage $$$$$
    Free college $$$$

    Costing 250 trillion
    Open borders.
    Free healthcare for illegal aliens
    Ban guns....
    Basically everything a failed communist government has tried, Bernie wants to implement. Hes a joke
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    Originally Posted by Jadedfadedisbae View Post
    Please explain this to me. I have never been one to pay attention to politics or care so I am curious. It seems as if Trump is kind of a dick. Why is Trump superior to Sanders?
    Here is the first problem with your question; "You say that it seems as if Trump is a dick"

    How about going out and finding some real evidence to prove this assumption. If you really do some honest digging, you find very little evidence to support your claim, outside of what the leftest want you to believe.

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    His “progressive” policies are literally the way things work in the rest of the world. Ridiculous how people want to keep things the way they are and insist this is still the best country in the world
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    He's a huge threat, very dangerous candidate. Open borders with Socialism = America ded.
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    Originally Posted by FBjuiceboxFTW View Post
    His “progressive” policies are literally the way things work in the rest of the world. Ridiculous how people want to keep things the way they are and insist this is still the best country in the world
    The rest of the world is floundering and on the brink of recession. Most of the money from other places is coming here to invest and into our markets...I wonder why. Germany was strong but Merkle went full tard on immigration (which Bernie has promised to do as well). Wake the HELL up.
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    Nobody does it better than the USA, why would we want to work the way the rest of the world does? Are you even listening to yourself?
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    Originally Posted by Trudope View Post
    See:

    Canada
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    Netherlands
    New Zealand
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    Funny how most of the countries above are always amongst the highest in standard of living
    Most of those don't consider themselves socialist, and multiple in the list experimented with socialism and then shifted back toward a more capitalist government because it was failing.
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    The rest of the world is floundering and on the brink of recession. Most of the money from other places is coming here to invest and into our markets...I wonder why. Germany was strong but Merkle went full tard on immigration (which Bernie has promised to do as well). Wake the HELL up.
    Hmmm, could it be simply because we’re the world’s largest market? Nah, probably not. That would make too much sense
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    Most of those don't consider themselves socialist, and multiple in the list experimented with socialism and then shifted back toward a more capitalist government because it was failing.
    Agreed, but they have some sort of social programs. I.e. free healthcare, free education - things that Bernie is advocating for. That is the point i'm trying to make.

    Not like the guy is calling for USSR-style socialism.
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    Hmmm, could it be simply because we’re the world’s largest FREE market? Nah, probably not. That would make too much sense
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    Originally Posted by Trudope View Post
    Agreed, but they have some sort of social programs. I.e. free healthcare, free education - things that Bernie is advocating for. That is the point i'm trying to make.

    Not like the guy is calling for USSR-style socialism.
    So do we, a huge majority of our federal budget is socialist programs.
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    Originally Posted by Trudope View Post
    Agreed, but they have some sort of social programs. I.e. free healthcare, free education - things that Bernie is advocating for. That is the point i'm trying to make.

    Not like the guy is calling for USSR-style socialism.
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    So do we, a huge majority of our federal budget is socialist programs.
    The US has one of the lowest social welfare spending budgets as a % of GDP in the developed world. It's practically the only developed country in the world without some form of universal healthcare.
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    Originally Posted by kcadrenalin View Post
    Nothing is free. Just be honest and say you are fine making your neighbors pay for your stuff so you can save your money to go buy a new iphone.
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    The US has one of the lowest social welfare spending budgets as a % of GDP in the developed world. It's practically the only developed country in the world without some form of universal healthcare.
    We tried it with Obamacare and it was a disaster. Universal Health care won't work until we totally shut down the border and prevent people from taking advantage of the system.
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    We tried it with Obamacare and it was a disaster. Universal Health care won't work until we totally shut down the border and prevent people from taking advantage of the system.
    and then it will work?
    mind the business that pay me in 2020
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    We tried it with Obamacare and it was a disaster. Universal Health care won't work until we totally shut down the border and prevent people from taking advantage of the system.
    Obamacare was not universal healthcare though. It was an attempt to strongarm the private industry into insuring some more people.

    If you had a universal public option (basically expand Medicare eligibility to anyone) then you wouldn't have to fuk with the insurance industry in such a way. Let people choose whichever they want.
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    Originally Posted by AltarOfPlagues View Post
    and then it will work?
    + having a state mandated diet and exercise regimen. If you can't handle the diet/exercise they just harvest your organs.
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    Originally Posted by Techriding101 View Post
    + having a state mandated diet and exercise regimen. If you can't handle the diet/exercise they just harvest your organs.
    I support this provided it also includes mental exercises in the form of mathematical fitness. You must prove 3 theorems (escalating difficulty each day) a day or they will come harvest your organs.
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    Originally Posted by isingmodel View Post
    The US has one of the lowest social welfare spending budgets as a % of GDP in the developed world. It's practically the only developed country in the world without some form of universal healthcare.
    Just social welfare?

    Or are you going to include: Healthcare/pensions?

    $470,000,000,000 - welfare
    $1,842,000,000,000 - healthcare
    $1,507,000,000,000 - pensions
    https://www.usgovernmentspending.com...ding_pie_chart

    https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/...-amount-health
    As would be expected, wealthy countries like the U.S., tend to spend more per person on health care and related expenses than lower income countries. However, even as a high income country, the U.S. spends more per person on health than comparable countries. Health spending per person in the U.S. was $10,224 in 2017, which was 28% higher than Switzerland, the next highest per capita spender.


    *Edit - so ya... let's spend MORE money on these programs.
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    Originally Posted by AltarOfPlagues View Post
    and then it will work?
    Nope, still won't work. Bernie supporters are delusional and this is the product of DECADES of marxist brainwashing in our universities. Ex KGB called this chit happening 40 years ago, they've totally infiltrated us.
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    Nothing is free. Just be honest and say you are fine making your neighbors pay for your stuff so you can save your money to go buy a new iphone.
    Buddy, I work in Banking and I'm in the 1% of earners in the US. Imagine thinking anyone who can see economic inequality is poor, it's like Libs who think all Trump supporters are racist.
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