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    Originally Posted by kenjoshx View Post
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    So, I've ultimately decided to get the car in a manual. Its being shipped from Colorado (becuase they're so hard to come by) and will be here by the beginning of March.

    I figure, everyone in Europe drives manual by default. Hell, I think they even have to know how to drive one to pass their drivers test. As for the negatives in this thread, I've never heard such complaints from the folks across the pond with regards to manuals and their traffic can be pretty nasty at times as well. If these problems truly were rampant, wouldn't automatics be more popular over there?

    Also, this is a newer manual so there are features that let you cheat as a means of convenience (no need to double clutch, "Hill-Assist" prevents you from rolling back if you're parked on a hill etc)

    I think i'll be okay.
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    Originally Posted by elterrible987 View Post
    You could look at the Mazda 3/6. They still use torque converter automatics.
    I test drove the Mazda 3.

    Its pretty damn nice, but that C-pillar is massive, you can't see chit in that blind spot, lol.

    Originally Posted by sumolgi View Post
    That 2 to 4 hour 60 mile round trip is flat out brutal riding the clutch all the way. FWIW
    yikes, probably not a good idea. That sounds like a good way to wear out the clutch prematurely.
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    I mean congratulations! and I hope it works out for you.

    I'm saying it wasn't a pleasant experience for me (imagine being late and in a hurry for over an hour and a half, or tired and mentally exhausted, or worse yet; pissed off by something completely unrelated). There are positives to say too, but fuk it; here's to you having a better experience OP

    P.S. I believe wearing down the clutch is much safer than wearing down the brakes, peace
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    The new dct autos with paddle shifters are better than manual in every way. Seamless instant shifts.
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    Originally Posted by Kev1972 View Post
    The new dct autos with paddle shifters are better than manual in every way. Seamless instant shifts.
    I tried it. They're alright just kinda weird to get use to.
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    Originally Posted by Kev1972 View Post
    The new dct autos with paddle shifters are better than manual in every way. Seamless instant shifts.
    This.

    Also auto's with a TC are still good, like the ZF 8 speed. That's why almost every manufacturer uses them. It's incredible. And i'll have the ZF in my scat pack in about a month. That's if i don't cancel the order and get a used hellcat instead lol. But the hellcat has the ZF too so i'm good there.
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    Originally Posted by Anachron View Post
    I'm a bit puzzled by the replies ITT.

    "Too hard to drive a manual in traffic."
    "Don't torture yourself"

    Do you guys see what you're posting?

    OP, if you're OK driving manual, just go for it. If you prefer automatic anyway, get that. Simple as that.

    Have driven cars in traffic, original clutch past 100K miles, no issues. Honda clutches are very light anyway.
    bold part sums this up. if you prefer manual, get that; if not, then dont.

    my little clapped out truck is a manual and has been more or less un-driveable for the past 2 years - the clutch slave cylinder is toast and so the clutch is essentially inoperable. i drive this truck as my daily right now and have for the past year that ive been in boston. 2.4 mile commute within the city, could be 12 min or 45, imo the worst city in the world, especially to drive in. still do it tho and wouldnt care to own an auto car. if its what you want then youll find a way to make it work.
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    If youre going to be sitting in traffic why would you want a manual?

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    I haven't owned an automatic in 20 years. A daily manual that you're going to use in heavy stop and go traffic will be awful. With Auto transmissions these days having 6-9 gears I dont know why you'd want to own a manual. The car I have now will be the last manual I own. If you're wanting to drive an older or classic sports car then a manual would be the way to go but driving it in traffic will be a nightmare.
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    Originally Posted by kenjoshx View Post
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    I wouldn't go that far. I prefer manual but it's definitely something you have to enjoy in order for it to be worth the hassle.

    It's not like bumper to bumper traffic doesn't suck in automatic. I find myself at least distracted from the frustration of being stuck in heavy traffic in a manual. You have to be engaged in the act of driving so you're paying attention to the cars in front and around you more closely instead of just hating the fact your just wasting away in traffic.
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    not bad at all.
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    People just want to be on their phones and eat cheeseburgers at the same time, so they need an auto
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    You don't even notice it. In the UK everyone drives manuals, I suppose if you're not used to it then might be annoying I guess.

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    Originally Posted by 1slo5oh View Post
    I have done it with several vehicles when I was younger... its not that bad as long as you have a soft pedal and a clutch made from organic material (which most OEM clutches are). You can slip it along bumping in and out of the throttle as you move...

    When it starts to suck is if you have a big cam car (which you're in a Honda so this wont apply) you will have to re learn how to drive it or you will get beat to death on and off the clutch... not to mention once you start putting some power down and have to resort to a twin disc ceramic type clutch it turns into an on off switch... which is amazing under WOT but is just a pain in the sack otherwise.

    These days if I have a choice for a daily its auto all the fkn way... But if I absolutely had to daily a stick car it would be set up to do so and not heavily modified like I have done in the past
    This is 100% everything right here.

    In a more rural area, manual is a perfect daily driver. But I have a Spec stage 3+ clutch in my 6-speed & I will set that motherfukker on fire before I ever take it through Nashville rush hour traffic again! And I'm sure traffic is worse for you than it is in Nashville.
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    If it's traffic that's at least constantly crawling, it's not bad at all. Stop and go traffic pretty much sucks though. However, a Honda won't be too terrible. I had an Si and the clutch was really soft + overall it was an easy car to drive smoothly.
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    lol @ the 2nd post inferring that because a truck is bigger it would have a stronger spring on the clutch pedal than a car. The tightest spring on any clutch I have ever driven was on the old shape Mini.
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    I end up transiting LA twice a month or so. 405, 91, 210 etc . **** traffic most times of the day. I can see doing it in a small car, light clutch NOT in a vehicle with a heavy clutch.
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    It's fine, and if you're not chit at driving it it's no harder than driving an auto.

    With that said it does require a lot more movement, and I'd take an automatic as a commuter any day of the week through traffic.
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    Originally Posted by crash1181 View Post
    Honestly I think it's easier than an automatic. With a manual, if the traffic is really heavy, I will put the car in neutral and relax my body entirely. With an automatic I end up leaving the car in gear the whole time. Then if I get lazy there's more of a risk of drifting forward in the automatic.
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    I agree that OP will get used to driving a manual in heavy traffic, but to say it's even easier than an automatic is a little ridiculous. I'd say your more at risk of rolling into another car by leaving your car in neutral and relaxing. But if that's your thing, automatic cars still have neutral too.
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    Originally Posted by Thr0waway View Post
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    I agree that OP will get used to driving a manual in heavy traffic, but to say it's even easier than an automatic is a little ridiculous. I'd say your more at risk of rolling into another car by leaving your car in neutral and relaxing. But if that's your thing, automatic cars still have neutral too.
    Yeah, wtf who says manual is easier than automatic.

    Manual is the worst for any type of commute that involves traffic period. If you live in bumphuck montana where there's like 10 people in the whole state, then yeah own 10 manual cars and still have a great time commuting.

    When i had a manual DD, i didn't encounter much traffic, depending on when i got out of work or when there's an accident. Those few times blew. I wanted to literally drive the car into a building i hated it so much. And it wasn't often i encounter those heavy traffic jams.

    Manual is the phucking worst. Especially these days with how amazing auto's have gotten.

    My C7Z will be the last manual car i own.
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    Ive had a manual my whole life aside from my current car. Wife said I needed an auto so she could drive it if we have to swap cars.

    Well she is terrified of the car and wont drive it(m5 tuned to 600+whp) and Im left pissed off I didnt get a manual.

    Side note, I get up and leave work super early to avoid most traffic.
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    If you don't drive a manual alot it's a pain. I daily drove a 520hp project car with a twin Disk clutch, Par gearset, solid mounts and Sparco seats in downtown Seattle for over a year. I'll never do that again
    Thanks for your input, you frauding fat slampig-Sirfapsalot '20

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    I drove manual in traffic erry day and never once regretted my choice of gearbox or even considered going automatic. it was more like I was swearing the manufacturer (Subaru) up and down for making such a ****box gearbox and terrible tune and went about modding it to make it less miserable. I would consider a double clutch, but a standard auto, hell no.
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