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    Could a normal weight or healthy fit mans "looksmatch" actually be fat women?

    It's well known that men love and reward physically fit women (regardless if she's pretty, average looking, or unattractive facially speaking). Such women can get hundreds of messages a week on a dating app, sometimes thousands per week. But women don't care if men are fit or not if he lacks certain other physical traits such as height, nice hair, wide shoulders, thick beard growth, strong jaw, film star eyes etc (Chad traits).

    I have noticed physical fitness has little to no impact on a man's success in getting likes or matches if he his average or ugly in the face etc, or just a short fit man, or a bald headed fit man, or a fit man with a small frame etc. Is there any reason for this?

    Do women see "fit" yet ugly to average men equal to fat, obese or undesirable-bodied women? I'm just wondering?

    I think men look for health and fitness markers as those women have higher reproductive health and its symbolic of youth (something which any woman can have if they work towards it), and women look for 'good' or 'god tier' genetic markers (something men are born with or NOT born with - its a role of the dice for men).

    Is this correct or incorrect? What am I missing?

    I mean in my younger days I knew some short ugly men that were in the army and had a high level of physical fitness and low bodyfat. They were in good shape, yet people tried to partner them up with obese/slob type women as though they were of an equal looksmatch. Of course these men looked at these women with askance, but these whales actually thought those young men should be happy any woman looks there way.
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    Most women are clueless when it comes to judging the attactiveness of other women, and of course when a girl tries to set you up with another girl, it's far more likely that the girl is going to be unattractive. If she were attractive, she wouldn't need somebody to set her up in the first place. So it's not a real indicator of how you match up.
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    ofcours they do care about guy being fit, but it's only 1 checked box in a list of 10+. And for guys it's only one checkbox they care about in girls.
    I wish men would judge women same way as they do. too short, too tall, financially unstable, low tier job, nose too long, eyes too small, no degree, crooked teeth, too skinny, too fat and so on - disqualified! But nope, she isn't morbidly obese and have vagina - good enough!
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    You see average guys with average girls, but how many average guys do you see with OUT a girl by their side? How many average guys do you see with obese or very ugly foids? Likly far more than average guys with an average foid.

    You see, after online dating, its becoming nearly impossible for an average guy to get with an average foid. Back in H.S kids would just go with their looks match, not anymore with online dating, me too and beta-cuckery.
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    You’ve kinda got it right, but your wording is off.

    A fat girl and a healthy slim guy are obviously not ‘looksmatched’, but they could quite easily be SMV matched.

    A healthy slim GIRL will have at least an average (if not higher) SMV, because a girls SMV is largely determined by her looks. A healthy slim guy is more likely to have a dog chit SMV because looks just aren’t as big a factor in determining a guy’s overall SMV.
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    Originally Posted by alltrapbrah View Post
    You’ve kinda got it right, but your wording is off.

    A fat girl and a healthy slim guy are obviously not ‘looksmatched’, but they could quite easily be SMV matched.

    A healthy slim GIRL will have at least an average (if not higher) SMV, because a girls SMV is largely determined by her looks. A healthy slim guy is more likely to have a dog chit SMV because looks just aren’t as big a factor in determining a guy’s overall SMV.
    The guys on here think because they go to the gym that they should get a girl with a similar body. It's more than that. If you give off that creepy Elliot Rodger vibe, then you aren't instantly going to attract a slim woman.

    Or if your face isn't aesthetic on a dating app, then chicks will just swipe left on you. Maybe obese women will swipe on the average face guy because they can't get Chad.
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    It is actually even worse. Even fat woman is not attracted to you, she just settles for you because she knows she can't have better. Or she doesn't even settle.
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    Originally Posted by devopsengineer View Post
    It is actually even worse. Even fat woman is not attracted to you, she just settles for you because she knows she can't have better. Or she doesn't even settle.
    Yeah they get a lot of HTC dudes to validate them.
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    has no impact on a mans attractiveness tbh.

    I cant match with a fit or healthy weight girl around my age at all. Never got to date an actual fit girl
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    has no impact on a mans attractiveness tbh.

    I cant match with a fit or healthy weight girl around my age at all. Never got to date an actual fit girl
    So you actually go with Whales instead?
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    Maybe obese women will swipe on the average face guy because they can't get Chad.
    That's what I'm thinking. It seems other guys complaining about only attracting obese women are average-guys facially speaking.
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    Originally Posted by MGTOWpulpit View Post
    So you actually go with Whales instead?
    At least he's getting laid. Maybe they are just chubby or HTC curvy and not obese.

    Originally Posted by MGTOWpulpit View Post
    That's what I'm thinking. It seems other guys complaining about only attracting obese women are average-guys facially speaking.
    Yup, or below average facially. Or super ethnic like in an area where there are a ton of Asian men or a ton of Indian men, the white chicks will just unfortunately swipe left on all of them quickly.
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    Originally Posted by DustinTheHuss View Post



    Yup, or below average facially. Or super ethnic like in an area where there are a ton of Asian men or a ton of Indian men, the white chicks will just unfortunately swipe left on all of them quickly.
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    Black Pill.
    Kind of joking there......

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    i dont think average guys realize that pretty much all women 5-10/10 would rather share a 7-10/10 male with a few other girls or be single. they literally prefer those two options to dating a 4-6/10 guy. that's why guys date down.

    so yes, a normal/healthy guy who is roughly a 5/10 is looksmatched with a fat girl as thats pretty much his SMV equal.
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    Kind of joking there......

    OP makes hilarious threads.
    There is some unfortunate truth to it.
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    Originally Posted by DanielleGreen View Post
    There is some unfortunate truth to it.
    This. It's quite brutal on online dating and I'm not trying to make excuses for myself here. The things DustinTheHuss mentioned hold some truth. Unfortunate, but the only thing you can do is maximize your strengths and work with what you got.


    Personally I've matched with about 4-6 whales in the past few days. These were mixed in with my other matches, which went nowhere. Real life is where it's at for average or ethnic men.
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    I see so many hot women going to the pro hockey games when I leave work with pudgy no-lift dudes with punch-able faces.

    if you can't get a non-fat chick it's because your personality sucks or you are awkward AF around women.
    period.

    the guy on the left makes up the majority of guys under 30 in my city that I see with attractive women.

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    Originally Posted by Voidgaze View Post
    This. It's quite brutal on online dating and I'm not trying to make excuses for myself here. The things DustinTheHuss mentioned hold some truth. Unfortunate, but the only thing you can do is maximize your strengths and work with what you got.


    Personally I've matched with about 4-6 whales in the past few days. These were mixed in with my other matches, which went nowhere. Real life is where it's at for average or ethnic men.
    Dating apps just plain suck. You have to get out there and meet women in person like you said.

    If you match with whales, why are you swiping them?

    Yeah you have to maximize your strengths and work hard at lifting and your goals for your career.
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    ehhh I see too many attractive girls way outmatch their partner looks-wise...and I live in a big city.
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    Originally Posted by AngryBaby View Post
    ehhh I see too many attractive girls way outmatch their partner looks-wise...and I live in a big city.
    Yeah I see that in a big city, too.

    But this is online dating. Only Chads do well with online dating.
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    Originally Posted by DustinTheHuss View Post
    Dating apps just plain suck. You have to get out there and meet women in person like you said.

    If you match with whales, why are you swiping them?

    Yeah you have to maximize your strengths and work hard at lifting and your goals for your career.
    I didn't match with them, bad wording lol. I meant they would show up in my list of people that have already liked me.

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    Originally Posted by Voidgaze View Post
    I didn't match with them, bad wording lol. I meant they would show up in my list of people that have already liked me.

    PaysForTinderGoldLikeASimp....never again.
    Oh that's why people like OP can see fat women. I've never paid for Tinder Gold so I didn't know it shows you who already swipes you. I thought it just puts you at the top of good looking girls' swipes.
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    Originally Posted by DustinTheHuss View Post
    Oh that's why people like OP can see fat women. I've never paid for Tinder Gold so I didn't know it shows you who already swipes you. I thought it just puts you at the top of good looking girls' swipes.
    I think that's the common misconception with Tinder Gold here. Brahs think some pay to get more matches, but it actually just eliminates the mystery. You can find your likes instantly and match with the ones you want.
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    Originally Posted by Voidgaze View Post
    I think that's the common misconception with Tinder Gold here. Brahs think some pay to get more matches, but it actually just eliminates the mystery. You can find your likes instantly and match with the ones you want.
    OK. Thanks man. So OP is that what you did?
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    Originally Posted by DustinTheHuss View Post
    Yeah I see that in a big city, too.

    But this is online dating. Only Chads do well with online dating.
    And you're sure none of the people you see in the "big city" met online, right?
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    Originally Posted by DustinTheHuss View Post
    Dating apps just plain suck. You have to get out there and meet women in person like you said.

    If you match with whales, why are you swiping them?

    Yeah you have to maximize your strengths and work hard at lifting and your goals for your career.

    I don't swipe on fat women. I'm using OKC and they message me.
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    Originally Posted by MGTOWpulpit View Post
    I don't swipe on fat women. I'm using OKC and they message me.
    OKC is from like 8 years ago bro. Try Bumble or Hinge and don't swipe on fat women.

    Just because they message you doesn't mean that you are looks match. Just like because ugly men message hot women doesn't mean they looks match. The fat women are thirsty for you because you are in shape (I assume).
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