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    For the full-body people - Deadlift category.

    For all you full-body enthusiasts, curious to see where you place your deadlifts and what category you give them, such as back or legs?

    I do 3 full-body workouts 3 or 4 times a week.

    For me its:
    Workout 1 will involve Barbell squats.

    workout 2 I will do deadlifts, I can either consider this a leg movement or for back, or just a back exercise and do maybe some leg extensions. Or call it leg work and throw another back exercise in there.

    workout 3 I will do squats again.
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    why would i give them a category? deadlifts are deadlifts

    My most common placement is comp(or primary) deadlifts on day 2 of 4, first
    Assistance (secondary) on day 4 of 4, again first
    Sometimes but not always Supplemental (tertiary) on day 3, third
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    Originally Posted by WolfRose7 View Post
    why would i give them a category? deadlifts are deadlifts

    My most common placement is comp(or primary) deadlifts on day 2 of 4, first
    Assistance (secondary) on day 4 of 4, again first
    Sometimes but not always Supplemental (tertiary) on day 3, third
    I mean there is a debate that deadlifts should be done on back day, or leg day.

    I wish I understood your reply, it sounds great though. Sorry, I'm not a scientific guy when it comes to working out.
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    Originally Posted by adamgentile View Post
    I mean there is a debate that deadlifts should be done on back day, or leg day.
    You're doing FB so not relevant anyway, just program it in a way that takes into consideration it hits both.

    Originally Posted by adamgentile View Post
    I wish I understood your reply, it sounds great though. Sorry, I'm not a scientific guy when it comes to working out.
    Just terminology. Supplemental supports assistance, assistance supports primary. Likely doing variations on lift/reps to help main lift. Same way you might do other exercises/variations to help increase your bench.
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    Confused by the thread title. If you are doing full body, why do you need to categorise deadlift?

    It's a Jack-of-all-trades so you won't get a satisfactory answer but the real effect is mostly on glutes and hamstrings.

    Personally I don't do it for BB goals. I have posterior chain as one of the body parts in my rotation - which usually includes a hip hinge like GM or RDL. Quads are done separately using mostly squats or leg presses.
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    Originally Posted by adamgentile View Post
    I mean there is a debate that deadlifts should be done on back day, or leg day.

    I wish I understood your reply, it sounds great though. Sorry, I'm not a scientific guy when it comes to working out.
    what is unclear about it to you?
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    Originally Posted by adamgentile View Post
    I mean there is a debate that deadlifts should be done on back day, or leg day.

    I wish I understood your reply, it sounds great though. Sorry, I'm not a scientific guy when it comes to working out.
    But there is no back day or leg day when you do full body routines.

    I personally pick 3 lifts that I want to focus on progressive overload on and do those first, deadlifts being one of them, and then add in the other exercises I want to do afterwards.
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    This is how I organize full body workouts.

    1. Upper push

    2. Upper pull

    3. Squat or Hinge (deadlift, power clean, kettlebell swing, etc.)
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    im confused at your question

    if you train full body anyway, why does it matter if you consider it a back or leg exercise
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    I follow the Madcow approach, which puts them on day 2 of 3, where all my other lifts are lighter. On the other 2 days I do rest-pause sets of stiff-legged deadlifts as accessories
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    If it helps with the confusion, OP likely programs each FB workout to have one exercise to hit each muscle "group": 1 Legs + 1 Back + 1 Chest + 1 Shoulders + 1 Arms or something like that.

    So that's prob why he has this Q, similar to asking which day you'd do DL if you were doing a bro split.
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    Originally Posted by air2fakie View Post
    If it helps with the confusion, OP likely programs each FB workout to have one exercise to hit each muscle "group": 1 Legs + 1 Back + 1 Chest + 1 Shoulders + 1 Arms or something like that.

    So that's prob why he has this Q, similar to asking which day you'd do DL if you were doing a bro split.
    You got it! This is exactly what I was trying to say.

    Talk about the overkill on verbiage on part
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    If I did full body I'd probably call it a leg exercise. I'm not about to squat after deadlifts, but I'm fine doing rows or pull downs. Also I deadlift sumo usually so already hit quads. I'd probably do deadlift for legs one day maybe from deficit for extra leg drive, squats another day, and RDL+ squat variation (split squat, hack squat, pause squat, pin squat, belt squat, sissy squat, leg press if you have one, etc) on main bench press day.
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    Originally Posted by jademonkey View Post
    If I did full body I'd probably call it a leg exercise. I'm not about to squat after deadlifts, but I'm fine doing rows or pull downs. Also I deadlift sumo usually so already hit quads. I'd probably do deadlift for legs one day maybe from deficit for extra leg drive, squats another day, and RDL+ squat variation (split squat, hack squat, pause squat, pin squat, belt squat, sissy squat, leg press if you have one, etc) on main bench press day.
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    I think of deadlifts as either a leg or back targeted lift depending on how they're performed. More legs if back is closer to vertical at the bottom of the motion, but more back if it's closer to horizontal at the bottom.
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    As someone who does upper lower

    Upper
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    Originally Posted by adamgentile View Post
    For all you full-body enthusiasts, curious to see where you place your deadlifts and what category you give them, such as back or legs?

    I do 3 full-body workouts 3 or 4 times a week.

    For me its:
    Workout 1 will involve Barbell squats.

    workout 2 I will do deadlifts, I can either consider this a leg movement or for back, or just a back exercise and do maybe some leg extensions. Or call it leg work and throw another back exercise in there.

    workout 3 I will do squats again.
    Currently, I'm doing a DUP reverse pyramid full body workout 2-3 times each week with light (8-12 reps), heavy (3-5 reps) and medium (5-7 reps) days. I squat in some form every workout and deadlift on heavy days. The deadlift is one of a few exercises that I don't do reverse pyramid style.
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    Interesting idea... categories. So we break a full body into an upper-fullbody/lower-fullbody or maybe PPL fullbody, or bro-fullbody ("fullbrody"?) or... WAIT A MINUTE!!????

    (yes I know what you meant... and I'm joking a bit here, but you see my point?)

    Personally I'm experimenting with DL on Mon, Weds, Fri
    Although I alternate A/B with "A" being a normal session although not so much volume as 3 times a week I'd die
    and my "B" being minimum warmups to a heavyish single and then 5*5 on a low weight concentrating on form but with Fatgripz on the bar. A sort of fatgripz-Apollon's axle (so it's form and fat grip, rather than muscle workout). Since my grip isn't great I'm starting a slow LP for this with my "fatapollon" starting at 1/3 my 1 rep max DOH DL. That's not as easy as I'd assumed, how on earth do those strongmen lift that axle? (WR is >500lbs, how?)
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    I agree with the previous posters who said if you're doing full body, then categorizing it doesn't quite matter so much. That being said, when I am training 3x per week (powerlifting focus) I have to train full body to hit my frequencies that I like. So my training plan usually looks like this:

    Monday: squat, bench, row or lat pull

    Wednesday: deadlift, bench, lat pull or face pull

    Friday: same as Monday but different sets, reps and weights on squat and bench from Monday.
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