The F-22 Raptor is the most beautiful machine mankind has ever created

[ErnieMccracken]

One of the biggest wastes of taxpayer money ever conceived. I thought misc was conservative??

[Evil_D]

One of the biggest wastes of taxpayer money ever conceived. I thought misc was conservative??

I assume you're talking about the f35 given you're a cucked Australian and they look similar.
But this steaming pile of crap is most likely no different.

[ErnieMccracken]

I assume you're talking about the f35 given you're a cucked Australian and they look similar.
But this steaming pile of crap is most likely no different.

Nah. Fookin' 1000 flights/month out at Luke AFB. Just pissing away money desperately needed for everything but ultra expensive military planes.

[Ayz33]

Apparently they're mulling over restarting the production line, read a rumor.

Won't happen

theyre an inferior plane compared some of the soviet and european designs. I love how they look too but if their specs, features, and performance arent up to par then they gotta be replaced

You couldn't be further from the truth

I'm not convinced.
Does the thing even have a proven combat history?
Bet you it either doesn't or is extremely limited.

Of course you're not, you know nothing about it whatsoever.
Air to Air? No, but it dominates any fighter we have or have used (acquired) from other military's in our exercises, which are as realistic as possible.
What do you mean by limited?

One of the biggest wastes of taxpayer money ever conceived. I thought misc was conservative??

In what way?

[hackfunnigans]

i raise you

Not sure if someone mentioned this in this thread, but it boggles my mind that one of the most impressive engineering projects ever completed was developed in the 1950’s. Makes you wonder what else is in development (or was cancelled), or if technology is intentionally being slowed down for some reason.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skunk_Works

[hackfunnigans]

I'm not convinced.
Does the thing even have a proven combat history?
Bet you it either doesn't or is extremely limited.

Realistically we’re getting to a point (or already there) where precision jet fighters are hampered mostly by human limits. The true next generation fighter jets will be controlled remotely or autonomously much like drones are currently.

[DCutch]

Won't happen



You couldn't be further from the truth



Of course you're not, you know nothing about it whatsoever.
Air to Air? No, but it dominates any fighter we have or have used (acquired) from other military's in our exercises, which are as realistic as possible.
What do you mean by limited?




In what way?

Don't bother arguing. The folks who make these remarks don't (and will never) work in the industry and have no business commenting.

[AgRyan]

Don't bother arguing. The folks who make these remarks don't (and will never) work in the industry and have no business commenting.

Like all the people who think we should just keep pumping out F22's since they're the "best plane ever" with their 30+ year old computers.

[BalkanPrince]

Nighthawk F117 is not the prettiest but it is one of the most iconic and badass looking planes ever produced. When I was a kid I used to call it “the batman plane”. Was sad to learn it got put out of action. It did a hell of a job in the Balkans campaign.

[radrd]

Think of what is being ordered now for the space force.

Considering all the money they are saving on uniforms, it should be pretty impressive.

[gluon]

I'm not convinced.
Does the thing even have a proven combat history?
Bet you it either doesn't or is extremely limited.

yup i agree, we should definitely never advance our military tech in times of peace, no one else does it anyway too amirite?

[abronamedwincel]

The LHC is way more amazing.Basically the hottest and coldest places in the observable universe are right here on Earth. Let that sink in.

[ErnieMccracken]

In what way?

$340m per unit, $67b program cost, and $60k per flight hour. They had to stop making them because the cost was so high. Let that sink in.

... And zero airborne threats that we needed this thing for. Drones are the future, not 70's style manned jets. America is a tradie who lives in a run down trailer but has a shiny $75k bro dozer parked out front on a 96 month loan.

The entire purpose of the program was to transfer taxpayer $$$ to politicians and a few rich guys at Lockheed.

[DesperateEnuf]

[tank2003]

This has the GOAT sound, but not sure about it being good looking

USAF just started replacing the wings though. So there's that. If they can come up with something that out performs the A10 then i'll be hella surprised. They broke the mold when some guy looked at the 30mm Gatling gun and said....:
"You know what? We should put this fukker in the SKY!"

And the USAF Top brass said:

The US military still haven't been able to effectively replace it in almost 50 years.

Not sure if anyone has posted this (only skimmed page 1) but THIS is the NASA Super GUppy. Used to haul BIIIIIIIIIG chit like space shuttle fuselage but since the shuttle was retied mid 2000s, it is also retired but for sell

I kind of prefer the Black Widow.

nouice. came in to post this. on spread but wouldrepagain/10

[HolyCowBatman]

i raise you...

[Evil_D]

yup i agree, we should definitely never advance our military tech in times of peace, no one else does it anyway too amirite?

Anyone who circle-jerks over this useless plane are fooling themselves.
You're no different from game developers like Wargaming (makers of World of Tanks) who make OP vehicles in game that either never existed or were never used in combat in real life and giving them big advantages over actual vehicles that were mass produced and combat proven.

[faxanadu]

The GOAT machine...

[Skinnyfloyd1]

Russian S-400 missile system. Imagine what the S-500 would look like and how easily it would disable America's advantage in the skies.

Would knock that American junk machinery out of the skies.

[NoRupture]

Most aesthetic?? I like some curves on my fighter... either super hornet or tomcat

[DesiredUserphag]

lmfao "ah did you make a wish?"

[SazabiBrah]

R34 Skyline >>>> SR71 Blackbird >>>>> F14>>>>>>> F22

[Optimiscm]

Change my mind

Jerking off to it rn.

Caught me at a good time.

[Optimiscm]

i raise you

What dis?!

[bongowongo]

[Retoaded]

What dis?!

That is the mach 3+ SR-71.


This is worth the read: https://oppositelock.kinja.com/favor...ory-1079127041

[Optimiscm]

That is the mach 3+ SR-71.


This is worth the read: https://oppositelock.kinja.com/favor...ory-1079127041

Bullet points?

Read the first paragraph.

Skimmed the rest.

Interdasting.
Lol sorry.

[powercage]

I'd hope with the amount of wasted money on it

You're thinking the F35. The F22 wasn't wasted money.

[Retoaded]

Bullet points?

Read the first paragraph.

Lol sorry.

dude read it.

the first SR-71 crew was out flying and a Cessna asked for a speed check from ATC, then a twin prop plane asked a speed check. Then a Navy pilot in an F-18 asked for a speed check being a smart ass to the slower prop planes. He was going 600 knots.

Then the SR-71 guys who were flying so high and fast no one knew they were there came on the fequency and asked for a speed check to flame the F-18 guy. They were going 1,800 knots.

[powercage]

P38-J Lightning > all





It was the best performing allied fighter in the war. Mopped the floor with the Mustang.