No deadlift progress :(

[nikola1808]

I took a 2 month break and my 1RM is probably only 315 right now(no straps) and honestly I have not had any progress in 4 months. Problem is my bench and OHP are improving, squat has exploded to 365lbs, while my DL is stuck. I am doing Greg Nuckols' 28 programs. For DL I do the intermediate once a week. I really dislike it, while I like the rest of the programs(bench,SQ, OHP). Any progression deadlift program you could offer me? Is deadlifting twice a week beneficial? I find deadlifting sessions really tiring so I prefer once a week, I could do 2 sessions a week if it's beneficial.

[OldFartTom]

When you fail a lift where does it go wrong?

Hands open, bar stuck to floor, can pickup but can't get lockout at top. What/where's it failing?

For perspective, what 315 as a multiple of your bodyweight?

[Wildtim]

With a squat of 365 your deadlift should be much higher than 315 just based on leg strength alone. There is a form problem at play here or a huge hand weakness not sure which. Either way it isn't the training at fault.

[air2fakie]

Are you sure your form is good? Also, is the back side of your body weaker in general or just with DLs?

[Millz12323]

With a squat of 365 your deadlift should be much higher than 315 just based on leg strength alone. There is a form problem at play here or a huge hand weakness not sure which. Either way it isn't the training at fault.

I suspect these squats aren't anywhere near depth. Usually is the case when ones squat is much higher than their Deadlift. You can't really cheat a Deadlift much but you can be a member of the 405 brigade with quarter squats.

All jokes aside... I would post a video of your Deadlift from the side and front and get some critique and Also rule out a grip issue. Are you using mixed grip? You could just have great genetics for squatting and have lousy genetics for deadlifting. I'm personally the opposite. I can Deadlift nearly 200 pounds more than I can squat.

[nikola1808]

I suspect these squats aren't anywhere near depth. Usually is the case when ones squat is much higher than their Deadlift. You can't really cheat a Deadlift much but you can be a member of the 405 brigade with quarter squats.

All jokes aside... I would post a video of your Deadlift from the side and front and get some critique and Also rule out a grip issue. Are you using mixed grip? You could just have great genetics for squatting and have lousy genetics for deadlifting. I'm personally the opposite. I can Deadlift nearly 200 pounds more than I can squat.

I am sure that I reach solid depth on my squat, i am sure that it is competition depth so much more than the normal gym-goer. I will make sure to film my deadlift next time. I personally dislike the mixed grip, I use it in a pinch, but I dislike using it in every set.

[nikola1808]

When you fail a lift where does it go wrong?

Hands open, bar stuck to floor, can pickup but can't get lockout at top. What/where's it failing?

For perspective, what 315 as a multiple of your bodyweight?

I am 185 pounds currently so it aint much. To think of it I always fail by losing my grip. I have had form breakdowns on very heavy sets, but I've never failed it, because of my back or legs. Although I do feel my upper back bending. Not right now as my grip is even weaker. I guess that I should just train my grip way more.

[nikola1808]

Are you sure your form is good? Also, is the back side of your body weaker in general or just with DLs?

Just with DLs I'd say. I can row as much as I bench, maybe slightly more if I did rows regularly. As i prefer Lat pulldowns and pull ups over rows.

[OldFartTom]

OK.. so in summary, when you get to about 1.7 BW your deadlift fails due to grip issues
And the question is therefore.... what steps to increase your DL

Do you use Chalk?

[air2fakie]

If you don't do it now, try chalk as mentioned above.

If it's just a general dislike and not something form related, mixed grip for your heaviest sets should help.

Last you could use straps, but may be better to work on your grip strength if you can solve it that way. Doing some sets or other exercises with fat gripz could help.

And do rows as much as your vertical pulls... for your back generally but also should help once you start to go heavier with DLs.

[sooby]

just echoing what has been said, something is wrong if you can squat 365 but can barely do 315, not sure if it is squat or the deadlift. post up some videos

if grip is limiting you use chalk/mixed grip or straps.

I think you could very well benefit from deadlifting 2x a week to get practice with the movement. 1 week might not be enough for somebody who has a deadlift that is borderline late novice

[nikola1808]

First problem was I somehow forgot how to grip the bar. Feels much better last two workouts. I did 4 sets of 275lbs for 5 reps without ever switching to mixed. Otherwise, because of this I've lost lots of grip strength. So, I started doing some farmer walks. I hope that I rebound fast to where I was this summer and progress from there. Thanks, for the advice everyone. It is a shame not having 4 plate DL yet.