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    Question How much does this super bowl loss hurt Tom Brady's legacy???(srs)

    There's a big Italian elephant in the room.


    Brady's one big downfall is that he consistently labeled as a "system QB" by every big name in the media. Every time he wins another ring there's always that little voice saying "Well he is playing in the Belichick system...".

    First it was Kassel looking like an All-pro when brady goes down with an injury, then it was Garoppolo looking like the next big thing. Yet Garoppolo's tenure on the 49ers has been nothing short of a disappointment thus far (not my words, I like the guy!), and his DREADFUL performance in the super bowl did nothing to help this. He went from looking like Montana to a lesser version of Dilfer in the matter of a season.

    It really makes me wonder how Brady would do on another team. Can Belichick make any QB look good?
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    lol at Cassell looking like an all pro

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    Brady is the Captain of the Belichick System, co-piloted by TB12.
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    Not at all. Brady is still a top 25 all time qb. You can't take that away from him.

    Jimmy. G is who we thought he is. We all knew what we were getting from him. This is a guy who threw the bell lkke 8 times in a championship game
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    BB’s record w/o Tom:
    54-63 winning %: 46.2

    BB’s record in NE when Tom doesn’t start:
    18-19 winning %: 48%

    W/Tom:
    197-55

    Winning % Rankings All-Time:
    Without Tom: 46.2%
    Of 102 coaches with at least 50 wins, Bill would be ranked in the 80s. Not even a top 75 coach w/o Tom.

    With Tom as starter: 78.2% which is good enough for best all time, next closest winning percentage would be 68%. He would be the best by 10%.
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    Originally Posted by frezKo View Post
    BB’s record w/o Tom:
    54-63 winning %: 46.2

    BB’s record in NE when Tom doesn’t start:
    18-19 winning %: 48%

    W/Tom:
    197-55

    Winning % Rankings All-Time:
    Without Tom: 46.2%
    Of 102 coaches with at least 50 wins, Bill would be ranked in the 80s. Not even a top 75 coach w/o Tom.

    With Tom as starter: 78.2% which is good enough for best all time, next closest winning percentage would be 68%. He would be the best by 10%.
    Are we counting his Cleveland days?


    Originally Posted by SmashinYoungVag View Post
    Not at all. Brady is still a top 25 all time qb. You can't take that away from him.

    Jimmy. G is who we thought he is. We all knew what we were getting from him. This is a guy who threw the bell lkke 8 times in a championship game
    I agree. I'm not saying he's bad lol. I'm just saying okay, maybe hes more top 10, not top 5.
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    Originally Posted by evansanity View Post
    Are we counting his Cleveland days?



    I agree. I'm not saying he's bad lol. I'm just saying okay, maybe hes more top 10, not top 5.


    My thoughts.
    BB’s record w/o Tom:
    54-63 winning %: 46.2

    BB’s record in NE when Tom doesn’t start:
    18-19 winning %: 48%



    In 5 years with the Browns, Bill only got to the playoffs once. Went 11-5 in the regular season and only won 1 playoff game with them. His other seasons looked like: 6-10, 7-9, 7-9, 5-11.

    Fun Fact. Bill Bellicheck without Tom Brady as a full time starter in the NFL has only made it to 2 playoffs appearances, has gone 1-2 in the playoffs in 7 seasons.



    Tell me whose better than Brady?
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    Originally Posted by frezKo View Post
    BB’s record w/o Tom:
    54-63 winning %: 46.2

    BB’s record in NE when Tom doesn’t start:
    18-19 winning %: 48%



    In 5 years with the Browns, Bill only got to the playoffs once. Went 11-5 in the regular season and only won 1 playoff game with them. His other seasons looked like: 6-10, 7-9, 7-9, 5-11.

    Fun Fact. Bill Bellicheck without Tom Brady as a full time starter in the NFL has only made it to 2 playoffs appearances, has gone 1-2 in the playoffs in 7 seasons.



    Tell me whose better than Brady?
    Let's just ignore the owner announcing he's moving the team and the players quitting. Let's ignore that it takes time for coaches to get players that fit their system. Let's ignore the pats playing well with cassell jimmy g and brisset.

    It's a long ass list of qbs better. But you got them cuck blinders on tight
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    Originally Posted by frezKo View Post
    BB’s record w/o Tom:
    54-63 winning %: 46.2

    BB’s record in NE when Tom doesn’t start:
    18-19 winning %: 48%



    In 5 years with the Browns, Bill only got to the playoffs once. Went 11-5 in the regular season and only won 1 playoff game with them. His other seasons looked like: 6-10, 7-9, 7-9, 5-11.

    Fun Fact. Bill Bellicheck without Tom Brady as a full time starter in the NFL has only made it to 2 playoffs appearances, has gone 1-2 in the playoffs in 7 seasons.



    Tell me whose better than Brady?
    Brissett, Jimmy G and Bledsoe? Bledsoe was washed up and was very bad at the end of his career.
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    Originally Posted by evansanity View Post
    Brissett, Jimmy G and Bledsoe? Bledsoe was washed up and was very bad at the end of his career.
    Bledsoe was never even that good. He was Eli manning-esque without the Super Bowls. Tons of picks, ill advised throws, empty yards, mind boggling decision making. But Brady fans have warped the perception of him and made him out to be this great qb. "Bill couldn't get it done with Bledsoe"

    Like sh*t the guy has 5 seasons in his career where he has as many picks or more than he does touchdowns. Not too mention he was fumble prone.
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    Tom Brady is top 3 in almost every regular season major statistical QB category. He's #1 in every major statistical post season QB category. He has more SB appearances than any other QB in the history of the NFL. He has more SB wins than any other QB in the NFL.

    It doesn't matter what Jimmy G did this Super Bowl and it won't matter what he does the rest of his career. It doesn't hurt Tom Brady's legacy one bit. In fact, anyone who thinks it does is a homer and in denial of Brady's accomplishments and greatness.
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    Originally Posted by SmashinYoungVag View Post
    Let's just ignore the owner announcing he's moving the team and the players quitting. Let's ignore that it takes time for coaches to get players that fit their system. Let's ignore the pats playing well with cassell jimmy g and brisset.

    It's a long ass list of qbs better. But you got them cuck blinders on tight
    Browns were 3-5 or 4-5 when the Owner decided to relocate the team dip****. Great excuse. Season was long gone and they weren't making the playoffs.

    Name me a single QB other than Joe Montana that has any of these accomplishments:

    Tom Brady is ranked 2nd in comebacks and 3rd in GWD’s All Time.

    Game winning drives:
    Tom is best all time with 11. The next closest has 6. Aaron has 2.

    Regular season wins by a starting quarterback (219)
    Most passing yards, regular season and playoffs (85,959)
    Most passing touchdowns, postseason included: (614)
    Most touchdowns thrown to different receivers (77)
    Game-winning drives, postseason included (58)
    Division titles (17)
    Playoff games started (41)
    Playoff wins (30)
    Playoff touchdown passes (73)
    Playoff passing yards (11,388)
    Super Bowl appearances (9)
    Super Bowl wins (6)
    Super Bowl MVPs (4)
    Super Bowl touchdown passes (18)
    Super Bowl passing yards (2,838)

    That's just half the list
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    Originally Posted by frezKo View Post
    BB’s record w/o Tom:
    54-63 winning %: 46.2

    BB’s record in NE when Tom doesn’t start:
    18-19 winning %: 48%

    W/Tom:
    197-55

    Winning % Rankings All-Time:
    Without Tom: 46.2%
    Of 102 coaches with at least 50 wins, Bill would be ranked in the 80s. Not even a top 75 coach w/o Tom.

    With Tom as starter: 78.2% which is good enough for best all time, next closest winning percentage would be 68%. He would be the best by 10%.
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    Originally Posted by evansanity View Post
    Brissett, Jimmy G and Bledsoe? Bledsoe was washed up and was very bad at the end of his career.

    So you're arguing Brady is a system QB but all the other system QB's were chopped liver?

    The definition of a system QB is an average QB - you are stupid.

    Either Brady is an average QB or he is not.

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    you can't really be serious? Every statement you make has no basis at all. I would challenge you to find any respectable person in the media that even disputes Brady as the GOAT at this point much less the stupid, ambiguous "system QB" label that is so far past irrelevant it is not even a funny joke to bring up anymore. Yes the Patriot's system is the best in history because Brady, along with Belichick and McDaniels have developed it together over 20 years entirely based on Brady's on the field abilities. I actually think that 20 year knowledge of this offense has actually become a problem because it is now so complex they are the only ones that understand it and it is nearly impossible for a new player to come in and figure it out.

    On the other side to describe Jimmy G's performance on the 49ers as disappointing is probably even more ignorant. After a whole 2 starts for the Patriots he joins a proven, multiple year pathetic team and immediately goes on a 5 game winning streak and after he gets injured win 1 game the entire rest of the season. He barely plays the next season and the team is again pathetic. He comes back this year and plays his first full season with this same previously pathetic team and puts up the best record in the league, getting to the super bowl, and losing a competitive game to an extremely talented KC team?

    If that is disappointing then how do you describe an endless list of much higher drafted QBs even after starting many more games not even coming close to leading their team to a super bowl.
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    You're implying Jimmy G playing poorly makes Brady look bad or like a "system QB" because Jimmy G played so well in NE. 3 problems with this:

    1. The sample size of Jimmy G's playing time in NE. This doesn't need explained.
    2. You could just as easily say "well Shanahan actually made Jimmy G look great considering the 49ers were 4-12 last year when he was hurt and a year later they are in the Super Bowl and probably should have won. Which proves Jimmy G really can get the job done without being in NE under Belichick.
    3. An NFL coach's job revolves around finding the right players to fit THEIR specific system. Players making the system work is just as important as the coach implementing that system based on what they chose/have to work with. How this somehow only ever applies to NE makes no sense. And I hate the Patriots.
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    barely even watch this poverty sport but having ginormous iq means i can tell brady's a system qb, the dude is literally a statue... just stands there and chucks the ball, no scrambling, no running, no 'ad libbing'... that is literally system qb'ing

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    can't win em all

    if he goes to the Chargers or Raiders n wins a super bowl is he the undisputed GOAT?
    Nobody that matters disputes it already
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    Originally Posted by lolXlol View Post
    barely even watch this poverty sport but having ginormous iq means i can tell brady's a system qb, the dude is literally a statue... just stands there and chucks the ball, no scrambling, no running, no 'ad libbing'... that is literally system qb'ing

    mahomes will dump all over this guy's legacy
    Mahomes is playing in the softest era ever Timmy.

    How many redos do QB's get?

    Usually one good "Mulligan/free play" per game, minimum.

    BRB just about every QB gets a flag on a 25+ yard throw, to the point Fraudgers uses it as "strategy".

    BRB you make the pass great, you don't make the pass, doesn't count as a pass attempt, PLUS tons of free yards and a first down.

    Not even getting into "defenseless WR's" or QB's getting roughing for literally being barely touched.

    You idiots who believe that also think today's NBA players wouldn't get washed by Jordan because NBA holds their hands all the way to the basket.

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    Originally Posted by lolXlol View Post
    barely even watch this poverty sport but having ginormous iq means i can tell brady's a system qb, the dude is literally a statue... just stands there and chucks the ball, no scrambling, no running, no 'ad libbing'... that is literally system qb'ing

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    It means you're too retarded to see that every player, every single player in the NFL is a system player.
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    Originally Posted by lolXlol View Post
    barely even watch this poverty sport but having ginormous iq means i can tell brady's a system qb, the dude is literally a statue... just stands there and chucks the ball, no scrambling, no running, no 'ad libbing'... that is literally system qb'ing

    mahomes will dump all over this guy's legacy
    Are you suggesting he would've been better off running around playing street ball rather than spending thousands of hours year in and year out learning and expanding on all the intricacies necessary to master and improve execution of a system masterminded by the HC and his staff?
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    Originally Posted by lolXlol View Post
    barely even watch this poverty sport but having ginormous iq means i can tell brady's a system qb, the dude is literally a statue... just stands there and chucks the ball, no scrambling, no running, no 'ad libbing'... that is literally system qb'ing

    mahomes will dump all over this guy's legacy
    I see that your terrible takes carry over to this sport as well. Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
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    so the point of this thread was is tom brady an overrated system player with an undsrved legacy and the answer is yes, in response we get extremely valid rebuttals like a 2000 word essay that has zero relevance to anything... 'b-b-but qbs get roughing calls for literally anything' as if passer protection rules weren't brought in to literally protect brady in the first place


    then there's 'e-e-everyone's a system player guise' and 'b-b-but brady perfected all these intricacies and stuff'... like what? the difference is belicheck created the perfect system where any qb can slot into his team and nothing changes, there's no mastering or improving anything, there's only playing in a system designed to methodically move the chains with a safe short passing game limiting qb mistakes, how else would a literal oil tanker with zero mobility/atletiscm and a weak arm be able to thrive?
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    Originally Posted by MBisonSon View Post
    Man when you're even getting crapped on by Lunatic it's time to reevaluate your life.
    look, this is your first time coming across an over 9000 iq intellectual monster so w/e that post is supposed to be i'll let it go but as a courtesy word of warning... don't poke the bull my son, it's one thing when you iqlet kids go at each other with your adorable little sub 80 iq 'timmy' horns but this the big dog alpha bull you're messing with here, i don't want to have to school you in front of your little pals here... timmeh

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    I see that your terrible takes carry over to this sport as well. Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
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