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    this forum does suck now. i gotta say. i mean people have been saying it for years since i joined, but it really sucks now. it's still better than reddit though. but the repped / negged system has fully turned into reddit's judgement of upvoting and downvoting. i think it's the negativity. even the mods have left this forsaken land lol
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    Originally Posted by johnnyboi123 View Post
    inceldom is the most pressing issue facing young men today which happens to be the most common demographic on this board. People wanna act like we are all macho alpha men here and pretend like nothing's wrong.
    Well we agree that something is wrong.

    Where we disagree is thinking that coming to a bodybuilding forum and bitching about everything BUT the problem will somehow fix the problem.

    Their problems will be cured with getting off of dating apps, getting off of porn, lifting weights, meeting real women, going out on dates with them, taking self-responsibility, recognizing that women are real people (not soulless robots who want to see your disgusting dink pic), and building confidence in themselves.
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    you have to think of this from a marketing perspective:
    what does the misc offer that other forums don’t already?

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    Originally Posted by DrewDarden View Post
    Well we agree that something is wrong.

    Where we disagree is thinking that coming to a bodybuilding forum and bitching about everything BUT the problem will somehow fix the problem.

    Their problems will be cured with getting off of dating apps, getting off of porn, lifting weights, meeting real women, going out on dates with them, taking self-responsibility, recognizing that women are real people (not soulless robots who want to see your disgusting dink pic), and building confidence in themselves.
    I think for most men, the problem is that there aren't any avenues to meet women in the first place

    if you're not already part of a large social circle that is connected to many other social circles, it's close to impossible to meet new people
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    Originally Posted by bfdehewdbyywhn View Post
    you have to think of this from a marketing perspective:
    what does the misc offer that other forums don’t already?

    nothing. and there’s no porn
    exactly
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    Originally Posted by Spartanize View Post
    I think for most men, the problem is that there aren't any avenues to meet women in the first place

    if you're not already part of a large social circle that is connected to many other social circles, it's close to impossible to meet new people
    bingo, but younger women are also not joining social circles as often as before and are also using online dating to find men, which is way more effective for them than men

    reason? social media. People catch up online now instead of in person
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    Originally Posted by Spartanize View Post
    I think for most men, the problem is that there aren't any avenues to meet women in the first place
    This is the dirty little lie that is being perpetuated.

    There are 7 billion people on Earth. They are literally everywhere.

    You can find the skanky ones on Tinder for a quickie, or you can go places where smart, classy people go and meet them there. But just know that if you spend all your time hunting the dirty ones online, you'll stink of low class to the decent ones out there in the real world.
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    Originally Posted by DrewDarden View Post
    Well we agree that something is wrong.

    Where we disagree is thinking that coming to a bodybuilding forum and bitching about everything BUT the problem will somehow fix the problem.

    Their problems will be cured with getting off of dating apps, getting off of porn, lifting weights, meeting real women, going out on dates with them, taking self-responsibility, recognizing that women are real people (not soulless robots who want to see your disgusting dink pic), and building confidence in themselves.
    The problem is women don't want to meet/date. They just wnt to **** chads.
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    Originally Posted by DrewDarden View Post
    This is the dirty little lie that is being perpetuated.

    There are 7 billion people on Earth. They are literally everywhere.

    You can find the skanky ones on Tinder for a quickie, or you can go places where smart, classy people go and meet them there. But just know that if you spend all your time hunting the dirty ones online, you'll stink of low class to the decent ones out there in the real world.
    Where are these places that smart classy people gather to meet? "Brb I wanna get laid this weekend lemme go to the library"

    35% of internet users have used tinder. Now factor in bumble, hinge, all the other apps, the attractive girls that don't even need an app cause they have 100 dms every day.

    I think you have a very skewed perception of dating culture for those younger than you.
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    Originally Posted by SmashinYoungVag View Post
    Where are these places that smart classy people gather to meet? "Brb I wanna get laid this weekend lemme go to the library"
    You just identified your own problem without my help.

    "BRB wanna have sex" is only going to land you dirty women, so it's no wonder you think all women are sloots. The only ones who would entertain such behavior are the dirty ones.

    So if you want to meet non-trash, you may have to wait a few days :gasp:, weeks, to have sex with her. And you may meet her a a library, sure.

    Or you could just do like your contemporaries and hire a Tinder date/prostitute (same thing).
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    Originally Posted by imbored21 View Post
    The problem is women don't want to meet/date. They just wnt to **** chads.
    Keep thinking that while hundreds of millions of people out there have good relationships.
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    nothing wrong with the incel threads tbh. it used to be one of the prime joke topics



    what's wrong is the post replies lol
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    Originally Posted by DrewDarden View Post
    You just identified your own problem without my help.

    "BRB wanna have sex" is only going to land you dirty women, so it's no wonder you think all women are sloots. The only ones who would entertain such behavior are the dirty ones.

    So if you want to meet non-trash, you may have to wait a few days :gasp:, weeks, to have sex with her. And you may meet her a a library, sure.

    Or you could just do like your contemporaries and hire a Tinder date/prostitute (same thing).
    You're making assumptions that the girl you meet at the library doesn't have a tinder account. It's common as fukk. It's not like the early 2000s where online dating/meetups were taboo.
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    Reddit is a great source for knowledge and advice regarding lifting/fitness, but it's like a black hole. There's no sense of community or personality, it's like a cold library of memes and popular/trending news.

    The misc is actually close-knit, friendly and fun. You can find a great wealth of knowledge and experience here as well. Legitimate forums like the misc are sadly going out of fashion/style on the internet, but cool people will always find niche-hubs like this to actually express their ideas and interests. Sure, the misc is full of trolls and rustlers, but if you have balls, you'll enjoy the camaraderie.
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    Reddit = no limit to topics. So, basically universal sub reddits

    Bb.com = bodybuilding. Then fitness off of that

    Bb.com is considerably more niche. Even though the misc is miscellaneous, its still a miscellaneous section on a bb.com website

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    You're making assumptions that the girl you meet at the library doesn't have a tinder account. It's common as fukk. It's not like the early 2000s where online dating/meetups were taboo.
    It's human nature to assume that "everyone does it" when you're doing something immoral or bad for you.

    Look at all the alcohol memes on social media. I have friends on Facebook who are clearly fall down alcoholics (40 year old women I went to high school with) posting little quippy memes like "Oh it's 9:00 am? Must be wine-clock. Share if you need a glass, too!" The more people that do it, the more they feel like it must be the right thing.

    You're doing the same thing right now.

    But it's not just that. Look at your username. Yes this is the Misc and it's a joke, etc. But your mentality is clearly: "Get laid right now! Find a way!"

    Well, if that's what you seek, tat's what you're going to get.
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    Serious alternative history post to come, and some of you won't like it. But it's the truth.

    The history of this forum is largely misunderstood.

    I've been here since since the beginning, so I'll give you a quick history lesson that you haven't likely been exposed to:

    This forum's glory days were actually in the 2007-2009 era. It was a mix of lifting threads and random funny stuff. Youtube was new at the time so there were a lot of Kimbo Slice etc. going on. It was a great time, before the 4Chan takeover which brought in an influx of non lifters. Around 2009-2011, we saw the rise of those non-lifting types (almost prototypes of the modern Misc FA/LDAR/incels) as well as certain makeup wearing Australians who were heroes to these 4Channers, but the actual lifters here resisted. As a matter of fact, some people started negging him and his followers on sight because the whole forum was being lost to a bunch of non-lifting, zyzz worshipping 4Channers. Of course, you won't ever hear that since everyone just assumes he was universally worshipped and loved. But that wasn't the case. It was just the insecure non-lifting types who were looking for a hero. And that almost became the theme of this place.

    So things never really came back from that to be honest. And of course forums in general are dying off (maybe with the exception of Reddit), but I can assure you it has nothing to do with the moderators and it certainly doesn't have anything to do with rep points lmao. And it definitely wasn't Reddit even though that may have been like a final nail in the coffin.

    It all started with 4Chan users coming over here in droves over a decade ago.
    Classic Forums dying and this forum not evolving whatsoever (no new UI???? ****s sake) is the reason.
    People are less and less interested in classic forums. They want instant messaging, conversations, etc.
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    Classic Forums dying and this forum not evolving whatsoever (no new UI???? ****s sake) is the reason.
    People are less and less interested in classic forums. They want instant messaging, conversations, etc.
    That's the biggest thing of course.

    My whole point was that if this place stood a chance of going against the grain of the whole Internet, that fell by the wayside all the way back in 2009.
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    Originally Posted by DrewDarden View Post
    It's human nature to assume that "everyone does it" when you're doing something immoral or bad for you.

    Look at all the alcohol memes on social media. I have friends on Facebook who are clearly fall down alcoholics (40 year old women I went to high school with) posting little quippy memes like "Oh it's 9:00 am? Must be wine-clock. Share if you need a glass, too!" The more people that do it, the more they feel like it must be the right thing.

    You're doing the same thing right now.

    But it's not just that. Look at your username. Yes this is the Misc and it's a joke, etc. But your mentality is clearly: "Get laid right now! Find a way!"

    Well, if that's what you seek, tat's what you're going to get.
    I had my fun partying in college. Lots of Drugs/alcohol around so it wasn't hard to have sex

    But most miscers are into lifting. And people generally want partners with similar interests and hobbies. But the gym is the worst place to meet women. They're sweaty and insecure cause of that, and often have headphones in. As a guy you're breathing heavy, just finished deadlifting...face is beat red lol. So other than online dating how does one find a partner with similar interests?

    The same can be said for hiking. If you try and approach some girl and strike up a convo on a trail she'll have flashbacks of all the horror stories of women killed while hiking.

    Kinda joking but honestly how would you approach that. I have a gf so idc but it's a dilemma for most guys
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    this forum does suck now. i gotta say. i mean people have been saying it for years since i joined, but it really sucks now. it's still better than reddit though. but the repped / negged system has fully turned into reddit's judgement of upvoting and downvoting. i think it's the negativity. even the mods have left this forsaken land lol
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    Here you're stuck with the subhumans that have overrun this board and largely outnumber the high IQ well adjusted posters.

    Reddit does have very bad cesspools of subhumanity but you can avoid them if careful.
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    Kinda joking but honestly how would you approach that. I have a gf so idc but it's a dilemma for most guys
    If I were these guys, I'd start by changing my whole mindset.

    I'd stop looking at porn and Instagram "models" all the time. And I would 100% ditch the dating apps. All of this has perverted their sense of what women are and has altered their expectations of what sex looks like and what a relationship looks like. When you spend your whole life online, you start thinking everybody is like the avatars you see online.

    So step one is to find a new mindset. And until we can get past that stage without arguing with me about how the world doesn't work that way blah blah blah, I won't even bother with where to go from there.
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    Originally Posted by DrewDarden View Post
    If I were these guys, I'd start by changing my whole mindset.

    I'd stop looking at porn and Instagram "models" all the time. And I would 100% ditch the dating apps. All of this has perverted their sense of what women are and has altered their expectations of what sex looks like and what a relationship looks like. When you spend your whole life online, you start thinking everybody is like the avatars you see online.

    So step one is to find a new mindset. And until we can get past that stage without arguing with me about how the world doesn't work that way blah blah blah, I won't even bother with where to go from there.
    The fact that this forum has become a circle jerk for these parasites is the problem to begin with.
    Literal man children who talk about how "not getting womenz" is their biggest worry and how "everyone is a slut these days", "its hard to meet people", or other BS.
    I've never read so much **** if I'm being honest, the delusion is so damn strong.
    These people need therapy not be on forums. It's sad that a BB forum has become their home.

    This is the problem with this forum. There always used to be incels but now the hens have really taken over the henhouse, so to speak.
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    Originally Posted by Spartanize View Post
    it's really incomparable

    bodybuilding.com misc section is a niche forum for people into fitness to talk about random things

    reddit is a forum for everything, with every subtopic under the roof
    this. people who generally dont lift try to come here to "fit in" and then get butthurt because they dont well fit in with a bunch of insecure closet homos who sort of lift. Female miscers (especially somali) are the worst at this.
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