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    'Take Her Out!" - Recording of Trump Discussing Amb Yovanovitch - "Get Rid of Her!"

    A recording reviewed by ABC News appears to capture President Donald Trump telling associates he wanted the then-U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch fired while speaking at a small gathering that included Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman -- two former business associates of Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani who have since been indicted in New York.

    The recording appears to contradict statements by Trump and support the narrative that has been offered by Parnas during broadcast interviews in recent days. Sources familiar with the recording said the recording was made during an intimate April 30, 2018, dinner at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C.

    Trump has said repeatedly he does not know Parnas, a Soviet-born American who has emerged as a wild card in Trump’s impeachment trial, especially in the days since Trump was impeached.

    "Get rid of her!" is what the voice that appears to be Trump’s is heard saying. "Get her out tomorrow. I don't care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. OK? Do it."
    On the recording, it appears the two Giuliani associates are telling Trump that the U.S. ambassador has been bad-mouthing him, which leads directly to the apparent remarks by the president. The recording was made by Fruman, according to sources familiar with the tape.

    "Every president in our history has had the right to place people who support his agenda and his policies within his Administration," White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham said.

    During the conversation, several of the participants can be heard laughing with the president. At another point, the recording appears to capture Trump praising his new choice of secretary of state, saying emphatically: "[Mike] Pompeo is the best." But the most striking moment comes when Parnas and the president discuss the dismissal of his ambassador to Ukraine.

    Parnas appears to say: "The biggest problem there, I think where we need to start is we gotta get rid of the ambassador. She's still left over from the Clinton administration," Parnas can be heard telling Trump. "She's basically walking around telling everybody 'Wait, he's gonna get impeached, just wait." (Yovanovitch actually had served in the State Department since the Reagan administration.)

    It was not until a year later that Yovanovitch was recalled from her position -- in April 2019. She said the decision was based on "unfounded and false claims by people with clearly questionable motives" that she was disloyal to Trump.
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    It’s not easy taking out the garbage. I bet you have your wife’s bull do it on his way out.
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    Huge if true.

    That being said, if she was badmouthing POTUS? I have no issue with him removing her. Why would he want someone like that working for him?

    And I would say the same if someone working for Obama had done that as well.
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    You really give a chit about this? She was a bureaucratic parasite who didn't have the administration's best interests at heart.
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    Good. Should have been terminated day 1.
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    Originally Posted by OptimistPrime11 View Post
    Huge if true.

    That being said, if she was badmouthing POTUS? I have no issue with him removing her. Why would he want someone like that working for him?

    And I would say the same if someone working for Obama had done that as well.
    There's no proof she was badmouthing Trump. It appears Trump blindly believed Parnas and Fruman, flew off the handle, and demanded she be "taken out".


    But weird how Trump has claimed he didn't know Parnas..
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    Good. She is a liar who perjured herself, and she was preventing investigations. Badmouthing too? Yikes, should've been removed ASAP.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    There's no proof she was badmouthing Trump. It appears Trump blindly believed Parnas and Fruman, flew off the handle, and demanded she be "taken out".

    You're really focusing on this "take her out" piece. Of course you're not assuming he meant "take her out" in the violent sense despite that likely what you wanting him to mean, right?
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    There's no proof she was badmouthing Trump. It appears Trump blindly believed Parnas and Fruman, flew off the handle, and demanded she be "taken out".
    Honestly, who gives a fuk. Obama removed almost all Bush appointed ambassadors ASAP. Trump should have done the same.

    But let me guess... "it's different now!"
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    the point we should all remember here is that even if she loved trump and spoke highly of him every day of her career, he could fire her whenever he felt like it. legally. the ambassadors serve at the potus' mercy. thats it.

    ambassadors are there to serve the potus and deliver the foreign policy of the potus. period
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    OMG the horror! Just LOL at the comparison of an Obama vs Trump article. Media handled that dude with white glove service.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/...-ambassad.html

    Obama Gives Political Ambassadors Their Pink Slips
    By Glenn Kessler
    The incoming Obama administration has notified all politically-appointed ambassadors that they must vacate their posts as of Jan. 20, the day President-elect Barack Obama takes the oath of office, a State Department official said.

    The clean slate will open up prime opportunities for the president-elect to reward political supporters with posts in London, Paris, Tokyo and the like. The notice to diplomatic posts was issued this week.

    Political ambassadors sometimes are permitted to stay on briefly during a new administration, but the sweeping nature of the directive suggests that Obama has little interest in retaining any of Bush's ambassadorial appointees.

    Most ambassadors, of course, are foreign service officers, but often the posts involving the most important bilateral relations (such as with Great Britain, Japan and India) or desirable locales (such as the Bahamas) are given to close friends and well-heeled contributors of the president.

    By Web Politics Editor | December 3, 2008; 10:04 AM ET
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    Funny how Trumpers are in here defending Trump for firing her, while forgetting Trump has claimed many times that he doesn't know Parnas...
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Funny how Trumpers are in here defending Trump for firing her, while forgetting Trump has claimed many times that he doesn't know Parnas...
    Thoughts on this?

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/...-ambassad.html

    Obama Gives Political Ambassadors Their Pink Slips
    By Glenn Kessler
    The incoming Obama administration has notified all politically-appointed ambassadors that they must vacate their posts as of Jan. 20, the day President-elect Barack Obama takes the oath of office, a State Department official said.

    The clean slate will open up prime opportunities for the president-elect to reward political supporters with posts in London, Paris, Tokyo and the like. The notice to diplomatic posts was issued this week.

    Political ambassadors sometimes are permitted to stay on briefly during a new administration, but the sweeping nature of the directive suggests that Obama has little interest in retaining any of Bush's ambassadorial appointees.

    Most ambassadors, of course, are foreign service officers, but often the posts involving the most important bilateral relations (such as with Great Britain, Japan and India) or desirable locales (such as the Bahamas) are given to close friends and well-heeled contributors of the president.

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    She was an anti corruption crusader working in the Ukraine, she stood for everything that they were against, of course she had to go.
    No surprise here.

    She was hired in the Reagan days when anti corruption was a big deal.
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    Originally Posted by Ephedra View Post
    Thoughts on this?

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/...-ambassad.html

    Obama Gives Political Ambassadors Their Pink Slips
    By Glenn Kessler
    The incoming Obama administration has notified all politically-appointed ambassadors that they must vacate their posts as of Jan. 20, the day President-elect Barack Obama takes the oath of office, a State Department official said.

    The clean slate will open up prime opportunities for the president-elect to reward political supporters with posts in London, Paris, Tokyo and the like. The notice to diplomatic posts was issued this week.

    Political ambassadors sometimes are permitted to stay on briefly during a new administration, but the sweeping nature of the directive suggests that Obama has little interest in retaining any of Bush's ambassadorial appointees.

    Most ambassadors, of course, are foreign service officers, but often the posts involving the most important bilateral relations (such as with Great Britain, Japan and India) or desirable locales (such as the Bahamas) are given to close friends and well-heeled contributors of the president.

    By Web Politics Editor | December 3, 2008; 10:04 AM ET
    Incoming Obama admin dismisses everyone on day one.. yet Trump only demanded her fired after Giuliani's goons told Trump she was bad mouthing him.

    My thoughts?

    Fuking LOL
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    She was an anti corruption crusader working in the Ukraine, she stood for everything that they were against, of course she had to go.
    No surprise here.
    Yea, her and Quid Pro Joe did a great job cleaning out corruption over there. Hunter agrees!
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    Originally Posted by BOZZ View Post
    It doesn't matter if she was bad mouthing him or doing her job. Ambassadors serve at the pleasure of the president. But OP once again spams an article with no original content.
    Did you read the thread?
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Did you read the thread?
    It's hard to tell what you're mad at or what the motive of the thread is.

    What did Trump do here that's so appalling?
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    Originally Posted by Ephedra View Post
    Yea, her and Quid Pro Joe did a great job cleaning out corruption over there. Hunter agrees!
    After listening to the impeachment hearings for 3 days, that was debunked yesterday, BIGLY.
    Please keep up with current events when presenting.

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    Originally Posted by Ephedra View Post
    It's hard to tell what you're mad at or what the motive of the thread is.
    Seriously?.. I've only commented about it multiple times and bolded key points in the OP.. smh

    Trump knew Parnas even though he has claimed multiple times he didn't, and not only did he know him, Trump demanded Yovanovitch be "taken out" on advice from Parnas and Fruman.

    Trump didn't clean house on day one non-discriminately. He waited years and only "took her out" after he blindly believed Giuliani's goons.
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    Originally Posted by BOZZ View Post
    It doesn't matter if she was bad mouthing him or doing her job. Ambassadors serve at the pleasure of the president. But OP once again spams an article with no original content.
    100 percent true, but the leaked tape that just came out skews the argument in the direction that Lev claims and Schiff argues.

    It isnt that you cant remove her but that why she was suddenly yanked is sketchy as f.
    sums it up a thread will start off promising and then turn into name calling..
    The easiest way to tell when an argument has no merit is when the protagonist mixes in some personal insults.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    After listening to the impeachment hearings for 3 days, that was debunked yesterday, BIGLY.
    Please keep up with current events when presenting.

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    "Biden was just following US Policy!"

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    Clearly fake. Trump doesn't even know those guys. It was probably Alec Baldwin on the tape.
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    Originally Posted by Ephedra View Post
    "Biden was just following US Policy!"

    Not a good listener huh?

    The guy stopped prosecuting corruption so he was occupying the office but not doing his job.

    You cant have an anticoruption prosecutor who refuses to prosecute, duh.
    sums it up a thread will start off promising and then turn into name calling..
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    And again, the MSM brainwashing people.

    Do we know why Trump fired her? Could it have been something nefarious? Sure. Could it have been for a reason that's legitimate? Sure.

    The entire concept of due process is lost on you people. One day when this happens to you, you may realize how incredibly partisan you've become. Stop injecting your narrative into every news story so that you can screech about it.


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    ”She's basically walking around telling everybody 'Wait, he's gonna get impeached, just wait.”
    Sounds like the Dems we’re going to impeach before they had even manufactured these fraudulent charges.
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    Originally Posted by Vito-C View Post
    Sounds like the Dems we’re going to impeach before they had even manufactured these fraudulent charges.
    She sounds like such an unbiased witness, to! Bring her in for impeachment questioning!

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    Originally Posted by Ephedra View Post
    It's hard to tell what you're mad at or what the motive of the thread is.

    What did Trump do here that's so appalling?
    Trump dared to sway from the status quo foreign policy pushed by the corrupt establishment. OP is outraged about that I think.
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