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    Democrat managers hiding witness testimony from Senate trial...

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    Wait wait....Cuck Schumer told us that it’s the republicans who are afraid of the truth. Why would he hide this testimony if it’s the truth?
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    If Republicans had any balls, they would call Atkinson , Hunter. Schiff, Chiaramella and Joe Biden and deny all Dem witnesses just like the House.
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    The Democrats do nothing but project. Constantly. They use buzzwords like "coverup" with no explanation of what the hell they are talking about.

    Too bad the idiot Republicans don't know how to beat them at their own game. Now, if they accuse the Dems of a coverup, they just sound stupid and will be ignored by most. Basically sounding like "I know you are but what am I".

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    latching on to any little thing. pitiful as always. "secretive depositions" for which transcripts were released. Idiots.

    Their interview of atkinson was about why he thought the whistleblower complaint was credible and urgent. and probably his reasons for not giving it to congress as he was supposed to. This is you being made a fool of. Has no value in the trial unless they want to argue that the DOJ tried a coverup.

    if you werent suffering from partisanship induced dementia, you'd know this.
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    Originally Posted by semitope View Post
    latching on to any little thing. pitiful as always. "secretive depositions" for which transcripts were released. Idiots.

    Their interview of atkinson was about why he thought the whistleblower complaint was credible and urgent. and probably his reasons for not giving it to congress as he was supposed to. This is you being made a fool of. Has no value in the trial unless they want to argue that the DOJ tried a coverup.

    if you werent suffering from partisanship induced dementia, you'd know this.
    When was the Atkinson transcript released?
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    If Republicans had any balls, they would call Atkinson , Hunter. Schiff, Chiaramella and Joe Biden and deny all Dem witnesses just like the House.
    Exactly!

    I'll give Dems props... they are cut throats and don't give a fuk about appearance. The current crop of Dems are the most grimy, corrupt, and merciless we've seen. That said, only reason they get away with it is the media provides cover. Without the media their party would be extinct within 2 election cycles.

    If things were truly fair Reps would call all the witnesses they want and give Dems absolute sh*t.
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    Originally Posted by semitope View Post
    latching on to any little thing. pitiful as always. "secretive depositions" for which transcripts were released. Idiots.

    Their interview of atkinson was about why he thought the whistleblower complaint was credible and urgent. and probably his reasons for not giving it to congress as he was supposed to. This is you being made a fool of. Has no value in the trial unless they want to argue that the DOJ tried a coverup.

    if you werent suffering from partisanship induced dementia, you'd know this.
    But when Trump releases a transcript of the actual call, it's not good enough for you guys...

    Originally Posted by Ephedra View Post
    Exactly!

    I'll give Dems props... they are cut throats and don't give a fuk about appearance. The current crop of Dems are the most grimy, corrupt, and merciless we've seen. That said, only reason they get away with it is the media provides cover. Without the media their party would be extinct within 2 election cycles.

    If things were truly fair Reps would call all the witnesses they want and give Dems absolute sh*t.
    The Democrats have the benefit of the media constantly covering their asses. The Republicans don't have that luxury.
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    par for the course on these shady Dems.. their deception knows no bounds
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    Originally Posted by rise21 View Post
    When was the Atkinson transcript released?
    the rest were. I know you're unlikely to be willing to think there might be valid reasons why they haven't released the transcript of that testimony. Of course the republicans in the committee have access anyway so not much of a cover-up.

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    Exactly!

    I'll give Dems props... they are cut throats and don't give a fuk about appearance. The current crop of Dems are the most grimy, corrupt, and merciless we've seen. That said, only reason they get away with it is the media provides cover. Without the media their party would be extinct within 2 election cycles.

    If things were truly fair Reps would call all the witnesses they want and give Dems absolute sh*t.
    was hoping to see some kind of example of this cut throat behavior but I guess you're simply swapping parties and pretending.

    last sentence.... is weird. fair = republicans having all the power. . . Showing that everything you said before is based on a biased view of things. If it were to be logically applied, your idea of cutthroat democrats would be democrats following the rules while being the majority
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    Originally Posted by semitope View Post
    was hoping to see some kind of example of this cut throat behavior but I guess you're simply swapping parties and pretending.

    last sentence.... is weird. fair = republicans having all the power. . . Showing that everything you said before is based on a biased view of things. If it were to be logically applied, your idea of cutthroat democrats would be democrats following the rules while being the majority
    Dem House didn't give Republicans sh*t

    Rep Senate shouldn't give Dems sh*t

    Yet the Republican House isn't calling witnesses and telling Dems to fuk off, like they should. They also gave Dems 3 days instead of 2. They're also starting their first day of defense on a Saturday while Dems got the prime time spots.

    Again, Republicans aren't as grimy and cut throat as the Dems... sometimes I wish they were. Only problem is Republicans don't have the mainstream media cover.
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    Originally Posted by Ephedra View Post
    Dem House didn't give Republicans sh*t

    Rep Senate shouldn't give Dems sh*t

    Yet the Republican House isn't calling witnesses and telling Dems to fuk off, like they should. They also gave Dems 3 days instead of 2. They're also starting their first day of defense on a Saturday while Dems got the prime time spots.

    Again, Republicans aren't as grimy and cut throat as the Dems... sometimes I wish they were. Only problem is Republicans don't have the mainstream media cover.
    republicans called witnesses. They got the same time to question witnesses as democrats. what they didn't get was the whistleblower and a biden.

    smh. this is pointless. you're not sane. this my side their side foolishness does you no good when your country is the thing at risk
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    Originally Posted by semitope View Post
    the rest were. I know you're unlikely to be willing to think there might be valid reasons why they haven't released the transcript of that testimony. Of course the republicans in the committee have access anyway so not much of a cover-up.
    But remember when you called us all idiots and said it was released? So were you purposely lying or was that a parody like your hero Schiff?
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    But remember when you called us all idiots and said it was released? So we’re you purposely lying or maybe that was a parody like your hero Schiff?

    it was already released you idiots.


    no it wasn't.


    there are reasons it was not released you idiots.
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    If Republicans had any balls, they would call Atkinson , Hunter. Schiff, Chiaramella and Joe Biden and deny all Dem witnesses just like the House.
    They can do that after the acquittal. Acquit first, as it's best for the country and the Dems have literally no case. Don't legitimize a sham and set a bad precedent. Then they can investigate the origin of this mess. Calling more witnesses is a trap that Dems want so they can use more clips and soundbytes for the election.
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    The article states that nobody knows what is in the testimony and that it's classified.

    There's no reason to assume it's to Trump's benefit, and perhaps more reason to think it's not or else the Republicans would call him as a witnesses...and they're not.

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    Originally Posted by semitope View Post
    republicans called witnesses. They got the same time to question witnesses as democrats. what they didn't get was the whistleblower and a biden.

    smh. this is pointless. you're not sane. this my side their side foolishness does you no good when your country is the thing at risk
    WTF. What witnesses did Republicans get??? All they got was that 1 "law guy" when Democrats had 2 to counter. That's it. Out of the dozen of so witnesses Republicans had 1 "law guy" who spoke for like 10 minutes.

    Republicans weren't included in the House portion at all and were completely sh*t on. You've gone nuts.

    Now it's time for your side to get sh*t on. Enjoy!
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    The article states that nobody knows what is in the testimony and that it's classified.

    There's no reason to assume it's to Trump's benefit, and perhaps more reason to think it's not or else the Republicans would call him as a witnesses...and they're not.

    Edit: ps, Washington Times blows
    No it doesn’t. Why are you lying now?

    “The reason it hasn’t been released is it’s not helpful to Adam Schiff. It is not helpful to the whistleblower,” said Rep. John Ratcliffe, Texas Republican, who took part in the October interview with Mr. Atkinson. “It raises credibility issues about both of them.”

    He took part in the interview, so he clearly knows what’s in the transcript.
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    Originally Posted by Ephedra View Post
    WTF. What witnesses did Republicans get??? All they got was that 1 "law guy" when Democrats had 2 to counter. That's it. Out of the dozen of so witnesses Republicans had 1 "law guy" who spoke for like 10 minutes.

    Republicans weren't included in the House portion at all and were completely sh*t on. You've gone nuts.

    Now it's time for your side to get sh*t on. Enjoy!
    https://saraacarter.com/wp-content/u...t-hearings.pdf

    that was their list of witnesses. naturally the ones related to the cloud strike conspiracy, the whistleblower and the bidens were rejected. They got Tim Morrison, Volker, Hale, turley

    regarding the bold, are you aware that the released transcripts include questions the republicans, who supposedly were not there, asked? I mean, come on. I'm nuts yet you keep disregarding reality.

    I don't have a side. Would be wonderful if people on the right weren't turning into cultists so I could be among principled conservatives but its w.e.
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    Originally Posted by rise21 View Post
    No it doesn’t. Why are you lying now?

    “The reason it hasn’t been released is it’s not helpful to Adam Schiff. It is not helpful to the whistleblower,” said Rep. John Ratcliffe, Texas Republican, who took part in the October interview with Mr. Atkinson. “It raises credibility issues about both of them.”

    He took part in the interview, so he clearly knows what’s in the transcript.
    Why aren't the Republicans calling him in the Senate?

    Why does it not being helpful to Schiff equate to being helpful to Trump? How do you know it isn't simply irrelevant?

    How do you conclude I am lying when what I said matches the material at hand making no conclusions?

    Why do you and the others on Trump's side here insist that a voice contrary to your own must be lying?

    Is it because you can't tolerate an opinion contrary to your own? Is your insistence a conscious or unconscious attempt to paint oposition in the worst possible light in order to further promote your own opinion however weak? (Hint: yes)

    What credibility issue was raised? How do you know the Republican is accurate? If it is, why then isn't it going to be raised in the Senate?

    Couldn't it be irrelevant, or not accurate? Couldn't it also be immaterial because issues raised by the whistleblower are substantiated anyway?

    Bonus: credibility...what credibility exactly do you think Trump has after his daily list of lies that flows from his mouth and twitter feed?

    Think about that one.

    Your #1 guy has ZERO credibility.

    None.

    Now what credibility are Republicans following behind him trying to protect him at all costs have?

    None.

    Washington Times is also **** tier no matter what you say.
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    Originally Posted by semitope View Post
    latching on to any little thing. pitiful as always. "secretive depositions" for which transcripts were released. Idiots.

    Their interview of atkinson was about why he thought the whistleblower complaint was credible and urgent. and probably his reasons for not giving it to congress as he was supposed to. This is you being made a fool of. Has no value in the trial unless they want to argue that the DOJ tried a coverup.

    if you werent suffering from partisanship induced dementia, you'd know this.
    No, latching on to any little thing would be:

    "those burgers weren't really a mile high"

    "trump had 2 scoops, everyone else had one"

    "trump removed the MLK bust"

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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    You just lied about an article and are calling others credibility into question?

    What was your reason for lying? Don’t deflect, I’m genuinely interested.
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    Originally Posted by SWDeath View Post
    No, latching on to any little thing would be:

    "those burgers weren't really a mile high"

    "trump had 2 scoops, everyone else had one"

    "trump removed the MLK bust"

    You people are the literal embodiment of pathetic.
    You people? I don't care about those things... so...
    Is there no limit to what people will believe if it is prefaced by the phrase,
    "Scientists say" ?

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    Originally Posted by rise21 View Post
    You just lied about an article and are calling others credibility into question?

    What was your reason for lying? Don’t deflect, I’m genuinely interested.
    I didn't. Try reading it again, if you care to...

    Or just don't. I'm losing faith in you and all the rest who take a contrary opinion and say "you're lying!"

    You're like robots.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    The article states that nobody knows what is in the testimony
    “Rep. John Ratcliffe, Texas Republican, who took part in the October interview with Mr. Atkinson.”

    What part should I reread again?
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    Originally Posted by rise21 View Post
    “Rep. John Ratcliffe, Texas Republican, who took part in the October interview with Mr. Atkinson.”

    What part should I reread again?
    The part with words...in my reply, that is.

    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    Why aren't the Republicans calling him in the Senate?

    Why does it not being helpful to Schiff equate to being helpful to Trump? How do you know it isn't simply irrelevant?

    How do you conclude I am lying when what I said matches the material at hand making no conclusions?

    Why do you and the others on Trump's side here insist that a voice contrary to your own must be lying?

    Is it because you can't tolerate an opinion contrary to your own? Is your insistence a conscious or unconscious attempt to paint oposition in the worst possible light in order to further promote your own opinion however weak? (Hint: yes)

    What credibility issue was raised? How do you know the Republican is accurate? If it is, why then isn't it going to be raised in the Senate?

    Couldn't it be irrelevant, or not accurate? Couldn't it also be immaterial because issues raised by the whistleblower are substantiated anyway?

    Bonus: credibility...what credibility exactly do you think Trump has after his daily list of lies that flows from his mouth and twitter feed?

    Think about that one.

    Your #1 guy has ZERO credibility.

    None.

    Now what credibility are Republicans following behind him trying to protect him at all costs have?

    None.

    Washington Times is also **** tier no matter what you say.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    The part with words.
    Your life is sad to be honest. Good luck.

    Nice edit btw. You lied about what the article said and then posted a wall of text. No one cares what your opinion is.
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    Originally Posted by rise21 View Post
    Your life is sad to be honest. Good luck.
    Ok, thanks. Take care.
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    If Republicans had any balls, they would call Atkinson , Hunter. Schiff, Chiaramella and Joe Biden and deny all Dem witnesses just like the House.
    The WB was directly involved with Biden and DNC/chalupa collusion/corruption in Ukraine.

    The impeachment effort is all to cover up their own illegal activity.

    These people are all linked.

    Throw in the ICIG...
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