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    Progressing faster on a beginner routine

    I keep hearing that beginners will progress faster on a good full body X 3 program such as All Pro or Fierce 5 novice. I just realised that the upper lower 4 day split I started on three weeks ago is very similar to the Fierce 5 intermediate. Before then I have sporadically done various workouts for up to a month or two at a time then lost all progress as never stuck at it. Going back 10 years but now I don’t do competitive sports I have more time for weights (which should have been done along time my sports anyway). I’m doing okay with my 4 day upper lower and getting stronger every week. I’m enjoying it as well. Would you strongly advise I start again on the beginner routine? How much faster progress are we talking?
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    If you’re making progress and enjoying your routine why change?

    As a beginner anything will work and being consistent is more important.

    If one gets you to a bigger bench a little faster does it really matter? Not really.

    You’re still progressing so it’s not like you’re necessarily going to make muscular gains quicker on one routine vs another at this point.
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    Originally Posted by Filmbuff81 View Post
    If you’re making progress and enjoying your routine why change?

    As a beginner anything will work and being consistent is more important.

    If one gets you to a bigger bench a little faster does it really matter? Not really.

    You’re still progressing so it’s not like you’re necessarily going to make muscular gains quicker on one routine vs another at this point.
    Thanks yes this is in line with my thinking. Just got me wondering if I was wasting time. Doesn’t seem like it!
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    Originally Posted by MSammon View Post
    Thanks yes this is in line with my thinking. Just got me wondering if I was wasting time. Doesn’t seem like it!
    Nah jumping program to program would
    Be more wasteful.

    Every well thought out program will get you to the same point eventually.

    Consistent training and eating habits are more important.
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    That’s what I want to hear because I need to stop changing my mind. I am tracking calories and macros on my fitness pal too. I’m doing a calorie deficit so not expecting much progress until I’ve finished my cut. I have done the cut before as I used to make weight for amateur boxing. I just let myself go when I stopped because of business and got new enthusiasm for weight training now. However I used to get weaker when cutting so I am very pleased I am getting stronger now I’m doing weights.
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    Whichever you pick, I'd advise sticking at it more than a month or two at a time. This the single most important thing you can change, not your current program
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    If you're enjoying the routine and think you'll be able to stick with it, then I would do that. Personally I prefer doing a 4-day U/L than 3-day full body as it allows me to train on consecutive days and the workouts are a bit shorter, I actually find it a bit easier to stick to and more enjoyable.

    Out of interest, which 4-day routine are you doing? I was doin the Eric Helms 4-day novice routine for a while and really enjoyed it.
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    Back squat - 5 x 67.5kg (149lb)
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