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    Bullchit. If Jorge can KO Darren Till stiff, he can murder McGregor. Jorge was also dominating Diaz in a way McGregor didn't.

    If Conor is smart he'll take the Gaethje fight and then use that as a route to a Khabib rematch, instead of being KTFO by Jorge and having his "season" cut short.
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    Originally Posted by BulkingAkaFAT View Post
    At 170 he's carrying too much muscle.
    That's a terrible excuse for not having cardio and Conor does not have cardio. lol
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    Originally Posted by iloveus View Post
    That's a terrible excuse for not having cardio and Conor does not have cardio. lol
    But - You have to get the muscles used to throwing that weight around.

    Going from dominating 145 to 155.... Then 170. Too much of a jump - His body will not fair well against a true fighter.
    I guess you've yet to actually get in a cage & experience it. 5LBS is MASSIVE! Never mind the jump he's made!

    You cannot fight with Muscle! You just CANT! Conor isn't genetically gifted in the Muscle department.
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    This would be a great fight, a standup firework for the fans.

    Looks like they both have the same reach at 74 inches

    It all depends on Conor's shots and if Jorge would meet him in the middle and trade shots.

    If Conor over commits and doesn't land his shots, then it's very possible he will gas in the later rounds against Jorge, but that's most of Conors fights. If he connects though, I don't see why he wouldn't get a KO/TKO again!
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    Someone list all the elite fighters Jorge Masvidal has beaten

    Just for fun and stuff
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    Originally Posted by Gainzzz View Post
    Someone list all the elite fighters Jorge Masvidal has beaten

    Just for fun and stuff
    Who has conor really beaten? A bunch of manlets except cowboy
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    Originally Posted by ipunchurgirl View Post
    Who has conor really beaten? A bunch of manlets except cowboy
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    Originally Posted by Gainzzz View Post
    Masvidal blew up due to his personality and 3 very favourable high profile fights in a row.

    Till went full retard but he beats Masvidal 9/10 times if he fights technically.

    Askren was old and overrated. Look how bad he was against Maia. Masvidal hit a 1 in a million strike which sent him mainstream.

    Nate, as hard as it is for me to say, is washed and was never elite to begin with. He only gave Conor so many problems because of his size and creepy endurance/ability to take damage.

    There’s a big difference between a good fighter and a special fighter.
    Till lost that because his striking is one dimensional. Masvidal had been out for like a year btw. After the first round Masvidal was slipping Tills predictable straight lefts, Till stopped body kicks because Masvidal kept catching his kicks. Masvidal exposed Tills horrible defense. Till tends to keep his chin high hands low, and has a tendency to back up in a straight line which you shouldn't do. Masvidal is also great at breaking rhythm, and exploding. One of te reasons why he stiffened Till. Anybody that knows fighting knows Masvidal is legit.
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    Originally Posted by KingSWRV View Post
    No offense bro but he lost to Wonderboy and lost 2 of his last 5 fights and the only wins were agains overrated opponents.

    Cmon as much as I think Jorge is cool the hype behind him is a joke.

    These days it’s almost like the coolest most popular fighters aren’t even the complete champs anymore, rather fighters with flavor that audiences like.

    He got famous because he used the classic term “3 piece and a soda” and because Ben Askren is a huge dork. That’s it. He’s not the best ever by any means, he is a mid range player who had a mild resurgence and is peaking skill wise.

    He lost to wonderboy just a couple years ago dude, let’s be real here. He is skinny fat and limited to certain favorable matchups of styles and isn’t a super athlete, he is just a little thick and can generate booty power but Conor has that long mechanical length of tightness which is the superior body type in what they are both doing.

    To say he is better than Conor is a stretch. It would be a cool ass fight but Conor would dominate once they clash like he always has.

    The BMF belt is a sign that he is liked in his style but he isn’t a true fully complete champion at the height of the sport like Conor is.

    Like I said, the most popular fighters aren’t even the champs anymore.
    Looking at Jorges body vs Wonderboy he looked out of shape, and skinny fat. Not ripped like he is now. You can tell now he really has his focus together. Wonderboy is a great fighter I would also like to see him vs Conor. Tough fight for Conor. Besides that most of Jorges loses have came when he was drained at 155, and were split decisions. Jorge had a tendency to coast in his fights which was the main cause of his L's.Just watch Jorge vs Al iaquinta you'll see what I mean. The difference now is he's going for the kill.
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    Originally Posted by Gainzzz View Post
    Most of the guys Conor beat he's had a height and reach advantage. When he faced a taller guy with longer reach like Diaz he got whooped.
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    Originally Posted by ipunchurgirl View Post
    Most of the guys Conor beat he's had a height and reach advantage. When he faced a taller guy with longer reach like Diaz he got whooped.
    For someone who claims to "know fighting", you sound like a retard
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    Originally Posted by Gainzzz View Post
    For someone who claims to "know fighting", you sound like a retard
    You cant dispute the fact that Conor has a history of facing manlets. He faced Max Holloway who is taller, but has t rex arms. Conor got rocked by pillow fisted Diaz if you think Jorge cant rock Conor you might be suffering from a severe case of Conor nuthugger syndrome. You can say Jorge is a tough fight for Conor, but I still believe Conor wins that's fine, and possible, but saying Jorge is an easy fight for Conor? Come on man get real. I believe Jorge beats Conor but i dont think it'll be easy.
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    Beating cowboy proved absolutely nothing we already know about Conor. Masvidal and Till also destroyed cowboy. Weird how you think Diaz was washed up but when he fought Conor or Pettis you didn't.
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    Originally Posted by ipunchurgirl View Post
    You cant dispute the fact that Conor has a history of facing manlets. He faced Max Holloway who is taller, but has t rex arms. Conor got rocked by pillow fisted Diaz if you think Jorge cant rock Conor you might be suffering from a severe case of Conor nuthugger syndrome. You can say Jorge is a tough fight for Conor, but I still believe Conor wins that's fine, and possible, but saying Jorge is an easy fight for Conor? Come on man get real. I believe Jorge beats Conor but i dont think it'll be easy.
    Conor is a manlet himself.

    Plenty of top tier fighters have a size/reach advantage over most or their opponents, why is Conor the only one criticized for it? Why is Conor the only fighter whose wins are seen as less legitimate because he had a reach advantage? It's because people have a pathological hate for his ability. "He can't be that good.. oh, it HAS to be because he's bigger!!"

    Anderson, Jon Jones, Holloway, Ngannou, Adesanya, etc..

    The difference in size and weight between Conor/145 opponents were nowhere near as big as Conor/Nate @ 170.






    Are you seriously trying to tell me that he absolutely dwarfs these guys? GTFO

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    People hate Conor for the same reason people hate The Beatles. Lou Reed said The Beatles were the worst band in the world LMAO. It's the equivalent of Alvarez saying Conor was the easiest fight in the division. Turns out the fighters themselves are every bit as retarded as the casual fans.
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    About how many times out of 10 would Jorge beat Conor? Is it like askren vs. masvidal where Jorge beats askren maybe 3x out of 10?

    I’ll come into this thread and laugh if he beats Conor in a fluke as he did askren lol. A lot of people thought Jorge landed a somewhat lucky albeit absolutely devastating knee that night.
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    I don't think CM beats Masvidal or even Gaethje, TBH.

    Unless of course they are paid to lay down. Seems to be the way things are going.
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    Conors next fight should be Gaethje.

    The winner of that fight should get the title shot against the winner of Khabib vs Tony.

    Sure, Conor can go for the money fight against Cuban Jesus... but I truly don't see Conor defeating Masvidal. Let's say he does win that bout; what's next? Usman? Conor does NOT want that fight, as it wouldn't be pretty. He's got no business in the octagon with a true welterweight, especially one as strong & well rounded as Usman.

    McGregor needs to do what it takes to get another title shot at lightweight. There's so many questions about the Khabib rematch; avenging that loss should be priority #1 if he cares about his legacy.
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    Originally Posted by KingSWRV View Post
    They are both counter-strikers but at that level what separates competitors is the body type and athleticism and I think in my opinion Conor is more physically intense.

    Jorge, we know what his tool box is, and against lesser skilled opponents his main 2 or 3 traps and gimmicks work but against someone like Conor (where it would be two counter-ers) Conor could easily crack the Jorge puzzle so the difference maker would be that he is more athletically gifted and dare I say, more savage.
    Lesser skilled opponents..? Didn't they fight the same opponent(Nate Diaz)? Masvidal took mercy on Nate in the 1st round.. He could have finished him,but chose not to..Connor lost....
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    Originally Posted by ndiguy View Post
    Conors next fight should be Gaethje.

    The winner of that fight should get the title shot against the winner of Khabib vs Tony.

    Sure, Conor can go for the money fight against Cuban Jesus... but I truly don't see Conor defeating Masvidal. Let's say he does win that bout; what's next? Usman? Conor does NOT want that fight, as it wouldn't be pretty. He's got no business in the octagon with a true welterweight, especially one as strong & well rounded as Usman.

    McGregor needs to do what it takes to get another title shot at lightweight. There's so many questions about the Khabib rematch; avenging that loss should be priority #1 if he cares about his legacy.
    Agreed.
    Gaethje is another good style matchup for him. Might eat some leg kicks but he's going to have plenty of chances to land his power shots.

    155 is where he needs to be (unless he wants the Masvidal fight).
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    Originally Posted by Gainzzz View Post
    Conor is a manlet himself.

    Plenty of top tier fighters have a size/reach advantage over most or their opponents, why is Conor the only one criticized for it? Why is Conor the only fighter whose wins are seen as less legitimate because he had a reach advantage? It's because people have a pathological hate for his ability. "He can't be that good.. oh, it HAS to be because he's bigger!!"

    Anderson, Jon Jones, Holloway, Ngannou, Adesanya, etc..

    The difference in size and weight between Conor/145 opponents were nowhere near as big as Conor/Nate @ 170.






    Are you seriously trying to tell me that he absolutely dwarfs these guys? GTFO

    It's one of the biggest myths in MMA
    Yeah but Conor is built like a neatherdal like Woodley. In terms of reach he completely dwarfs them. The guys you mentioned don't look like their at deaths door at weighs in like Conor did at 145.

    A.You can either think he wasn't cutting weight properly or smart or
    B. He's cutting a large percentage of his bodyweight
    C.Both
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    lol I can't see Conor beating Jorge at all, but Conor can be surprising
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    We didn't really see much of Conor at 170, the only time we seen him go a longer distance was against Nate Diaz, first fight he gassed out and the second fight he barely squeezed out a victory (gassed heavily too). Nothing seems to suggest he can beat Masvidal who toyed against Nate Diaz (the guy Conor barely overcame). I think Jorge would sleep him pretty badly. It would be competitive for about 2 rounds, after that Conor would be toast.

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    Originally Posted by AK5426 View Post
    Yeah but Conor is built like a neatherdal like Woodley. In terms of reach he completely dwarfs them. The guys you mentioned don't look like their at deaths door at weighs in like Conor did at 145.

    A.You can either think he wasn't cutting weight properly or smart or
    B. He's cutting a large percentage of his bodyweight
    C.Both
    lol at deaths door

    lets be honest, he did have an advantage but not in size of largeness but size of length, all his body mass is in places a striker wants it to be and nothing extra. so he was able to fit the largest frame possible in 145 and was plain maxed out, and on top of that he had game too.

    Butbits an absolutely legitimate advantage and thats what we want to see and explore; the limits of the maximum.

    its legit for Conor and its legit for Jon Jones and anyone else out there who can do it. I think we want to see that and what that looks like in action. it also doesnt take away from the skills that are also there.
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    Bullchit. If Jorge can KO Darren Till stiff, he can murder McGregor. Jorge was also dominating Diaz in a way McGregor didn't.

    If Conor is smart he'll take the Gaethje fight and then use that as a route to a Khabib rematch, instead of being KTFO by Jorge and having his "season" cut short.
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    Originally Posted by hotsaucebrah View Post
    Masvidal has 13 losses.
    5 of them have been split decision losses and he has close to 50 fights

    I can't really recall a fight where Masvidal was just thoroughly dominated, I mean he got out pointed pretty hard by Wonderboy but that's pretty much it.
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    Originally Posted by KingSWRV View Post
    lol at deaths door

    lets be honest, he did have an advantage but not in size of largeness but size of length, all his body mass is in places a striker wants it to be and nothing extra. so he was able to fit the largest frame possible in 145 and was plain maxed out, and on top of that he had game too.

    Butbits an absolutely legitimate advantage and thats what we want to see and explore; the limits of the maximum.

    its legit for Conor and its legit for Jon Jones and anyone else out there who can do it. I think we want to see that and what that looks like in action. it also doesnt take away from the skills that are also there.
    Jon looks a lot healthier at the weigh ins though. I think Conor could do work against someone like Justin Gaithje and I think Conor is Tonys worst matchup and Khabib is Conors worst Matchup. Just don't see him beating the 170ers. Masvidal is a more explosive accurate Nate Diaz and he's never been knocked out.
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