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    How are Americans so dumbed down they REJECT free or reduced college

    Or Healthcare, but support another 2 trillion plus $80,000,000,000 increase to our "defense" aka "offense against poor. Muslim, weak countries that can never hope to attack us back much less our mainland or else we will attack 1000 times more disproportionately" budget yet they think anyone who says we should halve our military budget to fit in a new college and Healthcare act that would cut or make it free is a communist or is insane?

    The bills don't affect me. I could care less as money wise I'm good. But I see so many good people drowning in debt while those billionaire angusholes like number 45 Dump LIE and say we are better off than ever before even though Obama got us out the recession and boosted our economy and trump just took that train over?

    Where was the the tax cut for the low or middle class he offered? He only threw in tax cuts for the rich so he and his rich friends and family give even less money to our government and can spend all of it overseas.

    It boggles my mind that the racism in America is so strong that 62 million people vote for someone who will destroy their low cost Healthcare and any chance for saving the lives of their soldiers and any chance for removing their insane college debts so they can NOT focus on the MASSIVE problems at home but rather focus all their problems in innocent people who have nothing to do with the mess here at home overseas by KILLING civilians. We even kill Iraqi sanctioned fighters that the Iraqi government itself sanctions to defend them because we just think that Iran is in control of them when really iran just helps them and trains them.

    We call anyone who helps the Iraqis fight us "terrorists" DESPITE the fact we invaded their country based on a LIE that we admitted, yet, when we created AL qaeda to fight the Soviets in the 80s, they were called "heroes".

    Isn't it insane? Isnt it crazy how Americans don't care about facts, but only about the bs hype and lies the media feeds them about us being "brave, courageous, strong,and freedom loving" when we bomb the chit out of Iraq. When the 2003 invasion of Iraq began they were TELEVISING the HORRIFYING SOUNDS OF OUR BOMBS BEING DROPPED like it was a "good thing" that innocent people were dying for no fuking reason.

    What kind of soldier follows and obeys those orders? What kind of soldier think it's brave and cool to say " yes sir when told to go fire bombs and cruise missiles to a country that never attacked us or intended to"

    What kind of people used to call AL qaeda heroes for fighting Russia but "terrorists" for fighting us?

    And how is it we cry and care and believe the liars in chief when ALWAYS, the poor Americans are again victimized by death or injury because their liars in chief told them fight this war for "freedom" and we will barely pay you $30,000 starting per year and help you out a little bit barely or maybe when you get back with college, while those fukers who started the war, have their children alive and living lavish, making $30,000 for every day the poor soldiers are there in Iraq? It's bs. Complete bs.

    Yet their insanity, racism, their nonsense about Healthcare and college being cheaper being communist or socialist, prevents them from voting or electing in someone that would truly benefit them and help them NOT be victimized, not be living in an unfair country where those who have so much, pay so low in taxes percentage wise, and those who need EVERY PENNY, pay the HIGHEST taxes proportionately to what they make or need, and on top, as soon as they make their auto insurance, or health insurance claim, or get their college education, they suffer IMMENSELY for it by drowning in debt that won't be forgiven,will destroy their credit if they are even 30 days late, and their taxes go towards killing people. Yet their happy about it because they think "we are a great country because we kill the most brown Muslims in the world so it's worth drowning in debt we have never gotten out of"
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    I personally think the cons of universal higher education outweigh the pros, but not having a universal public option for healthcare is an utter embarassment to the nation
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    You are absolutely insane if you think I'm reading that much red OP

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    Originally Posted by BigDeeps01 View Post
    You are absolutely insane if you think I'm reading that much red OP

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    Keep voting trump then and watch him burn the country to the ground. I voted for him. Where are the tax cuts for those hard working low or middle class people? Oh that's right they never existed.

    I am from that side of the rich. I know how they really think and feel about the 99%. They have so much money they don't even care about more tax cuts for them. They just don't want to see the sheep and the working class have any sort of slight comfort or freedom when it comes to education or healthcare because they want to feel like they're completely in control and in power and don't want a population That has access to free education or Healthcare to better themselves.

    The rich guys also that I've met are nasty scum. Believe me. They'd hate a young woman who isn't drowning in debt or can afford healthcare. You know why? Because the thought of her rejecting him and saying she's fine and doesn't need to go out with him as she's fine working towards her own goals and is much more satisfied doing so than being with his nasty fat, ugly, and abusive as5 because he's rich scares them and irritates them. They know if these people aren't worrying about bs debt for health and education, a lot of the women won't resort to dating someone they despise for his money. They enjoy it when they can easily dump money on high class hookers, or find attractive young women who are going to college but are having problems with bills, and thus, can use their money to influence them to give up their poosy for some help, and they NEVER care to give them what they truly need, but only enough to make them keep giving up the poosy and these girls that do always hate themselves for it.

    Fuking scum. The days where these losers can use a fictional system of paper giving their miserable selves higher value than their own good hearted young classmates are hopefully coming to an end.
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    Lol if you think politicians keep their word. Also lol if you think everything can become free without any repercussions. Someone will have to pay for all that.
    And that someone is you, through higher taxes. Enjoy paying for illegal immigrants college/medical that will inevitably flood into the usa even more with the open borders the democrats desperately want.
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    I'd be open to tax subsidized college education only if it was offered for fields which had a lack of workers.

    Tax subsidized engineering, healthcare or educated trades sure.
    Tax subsidized liberal arts degree? over my dead body
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    State (public) schools are already highly subsidized, why do you think private schools are 10x more expensive and why do you think there is an instate and out of state tuition rates? Because the states highly subsidize public universities. The federal gov also highly subsidizes state schools and that is why they always threaten Title 10 actions and pull out federal funding if the schools dont do this or that for women and minorities.

    There are also already numerous federal and state scholarships.

    What they want is a 100% free ride including housing from the federal government. Im not paying more taxes so every C highschool student can party on campus for 2 years before dropping out of their communications major.


    These people graduating with 50-100k+ student loans are ones that didnt prioritize cost in their decisions. That is NOT my problem and I shouldnt pay for their stupidity. They could have went to a community college while working and transferred to a 4 year. Its entirely possible to graduate with a realistic level or no level of student debt. You arent entitled to free housing on campus for 4-5 years on my dime so you can party 3 times a week.
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    Originally Posted by backinthegymbro View Post
    Lol if you think politicians keep their word. Also lol if you think everything can become free without any repercussions. Someone will have to pay for all that.
    And that someone is you, through higher taxes. Enjoy paying for illegal immigrants college/medical that will inevitably flood into the usa even more with the open borders the democrats desperately want.

    Do you even read? Only the fringe of the alr left want open borders and bs transgender restrooms.

    Normal people just want to cut the military budget from $800 billion plus the $1 trillion on top in related costs, to about $200 billion or less, and use the $600 billion that we get to spend on things that make Americans happy. How are racists happy watching themselves burn so long as they have a moron in charge who pretends he cares about them and is racist like them while increasing money to the military that could easily have supported free college and then say "we can't afford it"?

    Will you people seriously be fine with bs debt so long as you feel like finally a racist is back in charge and not a black president like Obama pbuh?

    BTW. I agree with some of the points.

    That's why bills aren't a one page document that says "free college for everyone yay"

    It would be an extensive plan that would prioritize a free state university education in a major field, it would only include housing in rare situations, it would punish you for dropping out forcing you to pay the loan back, and it would subsidize private universities as well. Going out of state shouldn't make them take a hit for it either as some people need to go out of state for their education.

    It's like this country can only see money being spent for "defense" aka offense.
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    Originally Posted by LamboBrah View Post
    Do you even read? Only the fringe of the alr left want open borders and bs transgender restrooms.

    Normal people just want to cut the military budget from $800 billion plus the $1 trillion on top in related costs, to about $200 billion or less, and use the $600 billion that we get to spend on things that make Americans happy. How are racists happy watching themselves burn so long as they have a moron in charge who pretends he cares about them and is racist like them while increasing money to the military that could easily have supported free college and then say "we can't afford it"?

    Will you people seriously be fine with bs debt so long as you feel like finally a racist is back in charge and not a black president like Obama pbuh?


    Kick the loonies out of your party and we can talk. As long as you cater to the mentally ill that want legalization of ****'s, open boarders, unlimited immigration, advocating cutting your dink off when your 6 years old.
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    Originally Posted by LamboBrah View Post
    What kind of soldier follows and obeys those orders? What kind of soldier think it's brave and cool to say " yes sir when told to go fire bombs and cruise missiles to a country that never attacked us or intended to"


    IDK what kind of politician gloats about overthrowing foreign leaders?





    This was billed as a "progressive" by the democrats last go around.


    but lol at only talking about Iraq 2003. Like the democrats havent been warhawks for the entire Obama admin.
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    Originally Posted by elterrible987 View Post
    IDK what kind of politician gloats about overthrowing foreign leaders?





    This was billed as a "progressive" by the democrats last go around.


    but lol at only talking about Iraq 2003. Like the democrats havent been warhawks for the entire Obama admin.
    Obama was a sellout too.

    I voted for trump precisely because it was either him or another establishment warmongering puppet like Clinton.

    Problem with trump is that he cares more about his image, and appearing "strong" to the people and counties across the world, than trying to make peace and help the voter base that elected him.

    If he would instantly replace Obamacare with something better, make anyone making less than $30,000 a year pay 0 tax and those making $30,000-$50,000 only pay 5-10% max on tax, while making those making millions pay 40-50%, the country would still be fine. And if he got us out wars and reduces the offense budget we would be fine.

    Instead he gives tax cuts for the rich and sends in more troops despite the fact nearly all his voters want their kids home

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    Kick the loonies out of your party and we can talk. As long as you cater to the mentally ill that want legalization of ****'s, open boarders, unlimited immigration, advocating cutting your dink off when your 6 years old.
    Those loonies don't represent us. I switched from republican to Democrat precisely because of trump. Precisely because I see that Republicans consistently have shown they will NOT ever support a country that spends it's insane tax revenue back for its people, and destroys economies of countries like Venezuela or iran that do nationalize their resources like oil. Venezuela and Iran were the richest countries back then. They were the most powerful economies with the most powerful currencies in their regions by far before us sanctions destroyed them because they dared to nationalize their oil.and invest in their people.

    Republicans love to feel like elites who have everything while the poor sheep who vote for them have nothing.

    And any moron Democrat that comes out saying they support transgender restrooms are just shilling for votes. You don't see Sanders running around saying he wants open borders or Trans restrooms. Sanders does say he will not invest money and resources though hunting illegals down to deport them. But it's not like he will outright open up the borders and let everyone in. If that was the case people all over the world would just fly in the country and stay (which is what the majority of illegals do anyway).

    Essentially, I switched to Democrat because I only want us to be like any other country. Yes I want us to be the number 1 military power, but as I traveled all around the world, I can definitively say that people despise us for constantly making the world a more dangerous place. No country is engaging in wars as much as we do and spending nearly all their budget on the military. If we invested our tax dollars in this country then we would.be great again. Unfortunately trump made it very clear with his dog whistles that "great again" means emboldening the racist war mongers in this country who only see us being a strong country if all of us are working jobs that support some sort of never ending war like world war 2. The thought of an enlightened country that is like everyone else in the world and doesn't engage in wars, and invests inside the country mostly and not outside, has become alien to them.
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    nothing come for free bro
    When did I say I or we want chit for free?

    Why does everything come for free for the government when it comes to war?

    If we were allowed to vote on what our taxes pay for, tomorrow you would see tens of thousands of defense workers laid off, $600 billion from the defense budget instantly removed, and that 600 billion added to subsidized housing, Healthcare, education, and infrastructure while at the same time leaving us in a surplus.

    You people think that investing in our country means everyone will stop working and just sit and get hand outs. If you can afford healthcare or college, that doesn't mean you can afford your mortgage or car bills or other bills. But it does mean people will be happier and more motivated to work.

    If you make lets say $50,000 a year, and go from paying 20% in taxes to 30%, you may be paying $5,000 a year more in taxes, but if you also pay next to nothing for health care or college, you actually have more money to spend back in the economy, than if your pinching every penny to pay the extra $7,000 a year on college, and about $4,000-5000 on Healthcare.

    Whats better for a new graduate? $5,000 more in taxes or $12,000 in regular overpriced bills, and as soon as you start making claims on that health insurance well now you pay $10,000 a year on it

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    Then I woke up and saw money doesn't make someone chit, and arrogance is a disgusting trait. I saw a lot of good hearted people especially female friends working hard and making in a year what I was making sometimes in a week. And on top, they can't even spend that money as it goes to the debtors that walk away with an extra $1500 on the $7000 a year loan they give them. It's a complete scam and it's immoral.

    I want this bs to end. Tired of rich people never having enough money and always panicking like the millions and millions they have will somehow end because they can't stop spending $20,000 a day every day on bs and trying to fly private jets all the time. Anyone who has $10,000,000 can turn that into $50,000,000 in 20 years just investing in property and never run out and live good for life. But instead of being happy they scam the working class thwt make them rich with bs loans all so they can keep living excessively lavish while those at the bottom have to penny pinch. Fuk that
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    Obama was a sellout too.

    I voted for trump precisely because it was either him or another establishment warmongering puppet like Clinton.

    Problem with trump is that he cares more about his image, and appearing "strong" to the people and counties across the world, than trying to make peace and help the voter base that elected him.

    If he would instantly replace Obamacare with something better, make anyone making less than $30,000 a year pay 0 tax and those making $30,000-$50,000 only pay 5-10% max on tax, while making those making millions pay 40-50%, the country would still be fine. And if he got us out wars and reduces the offense budget we would be fine.

    Instead he gives tax cuts for the rich and sends in more troops despite the fact nearly all his voters want their kids home



    Those loonies don't represent us. I switched from republican to Democrat precisely because of trump. Precisely because I see that Republicans consistently have shown they will NOT ever support a country that spends it's insane tax revenue back for its people, and destroys economies of countries like Venezuela or iran that do nationalize their resources like oil. Venezuela and Iran were the richest countries back then. They were the most powerful economies with the most powerful currencies in their regions by far before us sanctions destroyed them because they dared to nationalize their oil.and invest in their people.

    Republicans love to feel like elites who have everything while the poor sheep who vote for them have nothing.

    And any moron Democrat that comes out saying they support transgender restrooms are just shilling for votes. You don't see Sanders running around saying he wants open borders or Trans restrooms. Sanders does say he will not invest money and resources though hunting illegals down to deport them. But it's not like he will outright open up the borders and let everyone in. If that was the case people all over the world would just fly in the country and stay (which is what the majority of illegals do anyway).

    Essentially, I switched to Democrat because I only want us to be like any other country. Yes I want us to be the number 1 military power, but as I traveled all around the world, I can definitively say that people despise us for constantly making the world a more dangerous place. No country is engaging in wars as much as we do and spending nearly all their budget on the military. If we invested our tax dollars in this country then we would.be great again. Unfortunately trump made it very clear with his dog whistles that "great again" means emboldening the racist war mongers in this country who only see us being a strong country if all of us are working jobs that support some sort of never ending war like world war 2. The thought of an enlightened country that is like everyone else in the world and doesn't engage in wars, and invests inside the country mostly and not outside, has become alien to them.

    He tried to repeal Obamacare but it was voted down. McCain talked about repealing Obama care for 8 years and when the vote finally came he voted to keep it. McCain is giant sack of chit and Ive asked myself what would I do in 2008 if I had a time machine and I would still vote Obama again to this day because McCain is that much of a sack of chit. Trump has also pushed for a Syria pull out and you then had the democrats begging to stay and help the Kurds. But after the missile strike now all of a sudden they flip yet again and its oh Trump should deescalate in the middle east.

    And on taxes, Trump reduced them across the board including middle and lower class incomes. You got all these people parroting what they saw on MSM saying this is a tax cut for the rich while they are personally paying lower taxes.

    Most poor and middle-class arent itemizing, the rich are. His tax cut reduced the number of itemization and doubled the standard deduction while also reducing the overall rates for each bracket.

    Then they cried that it wasnt permanent. Ok so in 2025 either renew it or go back to Obama era taxes which would increase taxes on the poor and middle class. MSM complains nonstop because he wasnt supposed to win.
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    Originally Posted by LamboBrah View Post
    When did I say I or we want chit for free?

    Why does everything come for free for the government when it comes to war?

    If we were allowed to vote on what our taxes pay for, tomorrow you would see tens of thousands of defense workers laid off, $600 billion from the defense budget instantly removed, and that 600 billion added to subsidized housing, Healthcare, education, and infrastructure while at the same time leaving us in a surplus.

    You people think that investing in our country means everyone will stop working and just sit and get hand outs. If you can afford healthcare or college, that doesn't mean you can afford your mortgage or car bills or other bills. But it does mean people will be happier and more motivated to work.

    If you make lets say $50,000 a year, and go from paying 20% in taxes to 30%, you may be paying $5,000 a year more in taxes, but if you also pay next to nothing for health care or college, you actually have more money to spend back in the economy, than if your pinching every penny to pay the extra $7,000 a year on college, and about $4,000-5000 on Healthcare.

    Whats better for a new graduate? $5,000 more in taxes or $12,000 in regular overpriced bills, and as soon as you start making claims on that health insurance well now you pay $10,000 a year on it




    When I was in college I was an arrogant Kunt who stunted on everyone, had everyone be jealous at me or hate me because I had the dopest car in school, stole a few people's girls, and always had everyone revolve around me because of the power I held at 185lbs shredded at 5 foot 11 and unlimited money.

    Then I woke up and saw money doesn't make someone chit, and arrogance is a disgusting trait. I saw a lot of good hearted people especially female friends working hard and making in a year what I was making sometimes in a week. And on top, they can't even spend that money as it goes to the debtors that walk away with an extra $1500 on the $7000 a year loan they give them. It's a complete scam and it's immoral.

    I want this bs to end. Tired of rich people never having enough money and always panicking like the millions and millions they have will somehow end because they can't stop spending $20,000 a day every day on bs and trying to fly private jets all the time. Anyone who has $10,000,000 can turn that into $50,000,000 in 20 years just investing in property and never run out and live good for life. But instead of being happy they scam the working class thwt make them rich with bs loans all so they can keep living excessively lavish while those at the bottom have to penny pinch. Fuk that

    Youre argument against defense spending probably also incorporates government waste, fraud and abuse, but when it comes to healthcare why do you expect the government to be able to run it well? Have they run any program well ever? You think handing them over 5k a year in more taxes would be better than spending 5k in the free market on health care yourself?
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    People already get 15,000 "free" education hours, we see the result.

    Furthermore, America does not have a shortage of "educated" people.

    Education as it stands today is total trash, you learn useless factoids and no principles.

    Even implementing your changes, let's say they were good which I can theoretically grant you (although it's a charitable give, not a factual one), getting people 5-10% better isn't going to change their lives.

    People's problems stem from their own laziness when it comes to their body, their mind and their soul. People don't train enough, they don't read enough and they don't care for their emotional well being enough, no amount of school as it stands today fixes this.
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    Americans prefer to be dumb.

    Just look at the people who voted for Trump.

    The majority of Trump supporters are poor, lack education and are obese. These have been confirmed in various studies so it is not an attack, but a fact.

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    Because if you have half a brain, you know it's not "free", and now you are talking about adding trillions more to an already outrageous national debt...
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    Please explain how it would be free, because nothing is free. Higher education would not be free, universal healthcare would not be free, they would be paid for by the taxpayer which is only really half of americans.
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    Jesus Christ, can you imagine an already mentally weak generation being handed free college education? They finally get into the real world at 23 and it’s the first time they won’t be handed everything and they will have no fukking idea how to react.

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    Originally Posted by JimFromRaleigh1 View Post
    Americans prefer to be dumb.

    Just look at the people who voted for Trump.

    The majority of Trump supporters are poor, lack education and are obese. These have been confirmed in various studies so it is not an attack, but a fact.

    https://www.people-press.org/2018/08...idated-voters/

    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgo...2016-election/
    Show stats for those educated Obama voters
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    Keep voting trump then and watch him burn the country to the ground. I voted for him. Where are the tax cuts for those hard working low or middle class people? Oh that's right they never existed.

    I am from that side of the rich. I know how they really think and feel about the 99%. They have so much money they don't even care about more tax cuts for them. They just don't want to see the sheep and the working class have any sort of slight comfort or freedom when it comes to education or healthcare because they want to feel like they're completely in control and in power and don't want a population That has access to free education or Healthcare to better themselves.

    The rich guys also that I've met are nasty scum. Believe me. They'd hate a young woman who isn't drowning in debt or can afford healthcare. You know why? Because the thought of her rejecting him and saying she's fine and doesn't need to go out with him as she's fine working towards her own goals and is much more satisfied doing so than being with his nasty fat, ugly, and abusive as5 because he's rich scares them and irritates them. They know if these people aren't worrying about bs debt for health and education, a lot of the women won't resort to dating someone they despise for his money. They enjoy it when they can easily dump money on high class hookers, or find attractive young women who are going to college but are having problems with bills, and thus, can use their money to influence them to give up their poosy for some help, and they NEVER care to give them what they truly need, but only enough to make them keep giving up the poosy and these girls that do always hate themselves for it.

    Fuking scum. The days where these losers can use a fictional system of paper giving their miserable selves higher value than their own good hearted young classmates are hopefully coming to an end.
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    Jesus Christ, can you imagine an already mentally weak generation being handed free college education? They finally get into the real world at 23 and it’s the first time they won’t be handed everything and they will have no fukking idea how to react.

    Struggling when you’re young is good.

    I’d be curious how many people, that would take advantage of this hypothetical free tuition scenario, would flunk/drop out. If there could be a taxable repayment penalty I’d be more inclined to consider it.

    But I like how some fields have a forgiveness policy based on your tenure in a compatible field. Law school, for instance, can be forgiven after 10 years in an approved field (govt, non profit) provided you pay 10% of your salary during those ten years
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