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    Does strength training make it harder to get bulkier/tear muscles/ripped?

    I might be confused on this, but doing 1-3 rep sets of my max or close to it vs doing 12-15 reps and increasing my weight as 12-15 becomes too easy.

    From what i think i remember reading anything over 15 is basically cardio and 8-15 is bulking 1-5 is strength.

    Can you get bulky/ripped from solely strength training is my main question? Should you mix both?

    Also i was thinking of working out 1-2 times a day for 6 days a week of solely weight training (no cardio). How much total time is optimal? And how much is too much? Or is just listen to your body the answer?
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    Yes you can gain plenty of size with 1-5 reps (3-5 to be more exact). It won't be what you could gain with 5-12ish range, but if you're eating enough you will definitely put on size.

    Training intensity and rest periods also matter.

    5 is a good number for a beginner. Enough reps to illicit size gain, low enough to progressively add weight and increase strength, which will create the perfect platform to run a "size" based routine off of in the future. This is the fastest way to measurable gains.

    If you want to go twice a day, dedicate the second session to cardio.

    What are your goals? Age, weight, height, lifting numbers and years of experience?
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    Those numbers are not only a meme, but wrong. Vary your rep ranges, it's not only logical, but scientifically proven to be superior.
    Don't train twice a day, unless your sessions are shorter.
    "Strength" training is a bit of a cope for people who are unaesthetic anyway.
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    Originally Posted by FurtadoZ9 View Post
    Yes you can gain plenty of size with 1-5 reps (3-5 to be more exact). It won't be what you could gain with 5-12ish range, but if you're eating enough you will definitely put on size.

    Training intensity and rest periods also matter.

    5 is a good number for a beginner. Enough reps to illicit size gain, low enough to progressively add weight and increase strength, which will create the perfect platform to run a "size" based routine off of in the future. This is the fastest way to measurable gains.

    If you want to go twice a day, dedicate the second session to cardio.

    What are your goals? Age, weight, height, lifting numbers and years of experience?
    28, 150, 6ft, don't know my maxes, and work out a lot at planet fitness and at home, but in recent times i have not been doing much of any exercises. I have a 100lb bar bell and an adjustable dumbbell up to 35 lbs (gave other dumbbell to nephew).

    Also, so once a day for how long? 30 minutes, 1 hour? Or to failure/close to failure?

    I want to both look and be strong. I am trying to eat more too.
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    General bodybuilder training will make you a lot stronger. You won't have the same peak (1 rep maximum) bench, squat and deadlift as a powerlifter but that's because your training isn't specific to that purpose.

    Most strength comes from the size of a muscle. The remaining part is down to neural training and other factors you don't have any control over (like leverages).

    Read this:

    https://www.paleofx.com/3-reasons-yo...-bodybuilding/
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    depends what variables you constitute as strength training

    strength and size are very related to each other, especially the more advanced you become.

    as mentioned, use a variety of rep ranges

    a sweet spot for compound movements for "optimal strength and size" is probably around 5-8 reps and around 10-15 reps for isolation movements. It'll be these rep ranges where most of your volume will probably come from. But there's no reason why you couldn't include sets of 3 or sets of 20. Anything lower than 3 probably isn't needed if you want to accumulate volume for size and anything over 20 is pretty questionable or very very circumstantial at best.

    Size and strength come from a wide variety of rep ranges. You can't just simply do sets of 10 forever and think you'll perpetually gain size or at the very least, it's not as optimal.
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