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    Trump Authorized The Killing Of Soleimami Seven Months Ago With Conditions

    President Donald Trump authorized the killing of Iranian Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani seven months ago if Iran's increased aggression resulted in the death of an American, according to five current and former senior administration officials.

    The presidential directive in June came with the condition that Trump would have final signoff on any specific operation to kill Soleimani, officials said.

    That decision explains why assassinating Soleimani was on the menu of options that the military presented to Trump two weeks ago for responding to an attack by Iranian proxies in Iraq, in which a U.S. contractor was killed and four U.S. service members were wounded, the officials said.

    The timing, however, could undermine the Trump administration's stated justification for ordering the U.S. drone strike that killed Soleimani in Baghdad on Jan. 3. Officials have said Soleimani, the leader of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' elite Quds Force, was planning imminent attacks on Americans and had to be stopped.

    "There have been a number of options presented to the president over the course of time," a senior administration official said, adding that it was "some time ago" that the president's aides put assassinating Soleimani on the list of potential responses to Iranian aggression.

    After Iran shot down a U.S. drone in June, John Bolton, Trump's national security adviser at the time, urged Trump to retaliate by signing off on an operation to kill Soleimani, officials said. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo also wanted Trump to authorize the assassination, officials said.

    But Trump rejected the idea, saying he'd take that step only if Iran crossed his red line: killing an American. The president's message was "that's only on the table if they hit Americans," according to a person briefed on the discussion.

    Neither the White House nor the National Security Council responded to requests for comment. Bolton and the State Department also did not respond to requests for comment.

    U.S. intelligence officials have closely tracked Soleimani's movements for years. When Trump came into office, Pompeo, who was Trump's first CIA director, urged the president to consider taking a more aggressive approach to Soleimani after showing him new intelligence on what a second senior administration official described as "very serious threats that didn't come to fruition."

    The idea of killing Soleimani came up in discussions in 2017 that Trump's national security adviser at the time, retired Army Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster, was having with other administration officials about the president's broader national security strategy, officials said. But it was just one of a host of possible elements of Trump's "maximum pressure" campaign against Iran and "was not something that was thought of as a first move," said a former senior administration official involved in the discussions.

    The idea did become more serious after McMaster was replaced in April 2018 by Bolton, a longtime Iran hawk and advocate for regime change in Tehran. Bolton left the White House in September — he said he resigned, while Trump said he fired him — following policy disagreements on Iran and other issues................
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    Trump caught lying again about the justification for killing him.

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    Sounds about right. From what we heard, the option was the on the table for Obama, too.

    But he instead decided to bribe up a trade deal with Soleimani.
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    Originally Posted by FoxMcCocks View Post
    Trump caught lying again about the justification for killing him.

    In for Trump cucks like OP to say it doesn’t matter
    Imagine being relegated to this kind of thoughtless drivel because your opponent is winning so much....
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    Originally Posted by FoxMcCocks View Post
    Trump caught lying again about the justification for killing him.

    In for Trump cucks like OP to say it doesn’t matter
    Soleimami was responsible for over 600 US soliders deaths. This isn't enough "justification"?

    How many ISIS flags do you have hanging in your mom's basement?
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    Originally Posted by jeffl1980 View Post
    Soleimami was responsible for over 600 US soliders deaths. This isn't enough "justification"?

    How many ISIS flags do you have hanging in your mom's basement?
    So why did Trump have to lie and say there were imminent attacks on 4 embassies?

    Which was contradicted by both his defense secretary and his NSA?
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    Originally Posted by FoxMcCocks View Post
    So why did Trump have to lie and say there were imminent attacks on 4 embassies?

    Which was contradicted by both his defense secretary and his NSA?

    Link to the NSA saying there were no imminent attacks?

    Regardless, why is it impossible for you to believe that a series of events lead to the killing of Soleimami? Of course it was planned out beforehand.

    You also didn't answer my question. Is 600 US deaths not reason enough to kill Soleimami?


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    Don’t worry

    Schiff is on the case trying to get justice for the Iranian terrorist

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    Originally Posted by FoxMcCocks View Post
    So why did Trump have to lie and say there were imminent attacks on 4 embassies?

    Which was contradicted by both his defense secretary and his NSA?
    So are you implying both things can't be true?
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    Originally Posted by jeffl1980 View Post
    Link to the NSA saying there were no imminent attacks?

    Regardless, why is it impossible for you to believe that a series of events lead to the killing of Soleimami? Of course it was planned out beforehand.

    You also didn't answer my question. Is 600 US deaths not reason enough to kill Soleimami?


    Your brain must be the size of a peanut.......
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/12/u...embassies.html

    My brain is the size of a peanut but you need to be spoon fed information while on a computer with access to the internet, fuking lmao

    Appearing on “Fox News Sunday,” Robert O’Brien, the president’s national security adviser, played down Mr. Trump’s claim of specific, imminent threats to four American embassies in the region.

    “Look, it’s always difficult, even with the exquisite intelligence that we have, to know exactly what the targets are,” Mr. O’Brien said. “We knew there were threats to American facilities, now whether they were bases, embassies — you know it’s always hard until the attack happens.”
    To answer your question, no, I don't think it's a good enough reason due to the potential consequences (ie. war with Iran).

    If Trump thought that was a good enough reason, why didn't he just say so? Why invent a story about imminent attacks on four embassies?
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    Originally Posted by FoxMcCocks View Post
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/12/u...embassies.html

    My brain is the size of a peanut but you need to be spoon fed information while on a computer with access to the internet, fuking lmao



    To answer your question, no, I don't think it's a good enough reason due to the potential consequences (ie. war with Iran).

    If Trump thought that was a good enough reason, why didn't he just say so? Why invent a story about imminent attacks on four embassies?
    You’re a full blown water head if you think at this point war with Iran was ever an actual possibility. I can see how right after the killing of Solmeini right up until we found out the Irani rockets were all for show that you might have thought that but now? Come on man get a grip, Trump and crew had this scenario well in hand.
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    Originally Posted by FoxMcCocks View Post
    Trump caught lying again about the justification for killing him.

    In for Trump cucks like OP to say it doesn’t matter
    trump should have dropped a suitcase full of cash for SillySalami instead...
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    Originally Posted by FoxMcCocks View Post
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/12/u...embassies.html

    My brain is the size of a peanut but you need to be spoon fed information while on a computer with access to the internet, fuking lmao


    Did you not read your own article?

    “I didn’t see one with regard to four embassies,” Mr. Esper said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” But he added: “I share the president’s view that probably — my expectation was they were going to go after our embassies. The embassies are the most prominent display of American presence in a country.”
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    Originally Posted by FoxMcCocks View Post
    To answer your question, no, I don't think it's a good enough reason due to the potential consequences (ie. war with Iran).

    If Trump thought that was a good enough reason, why didn't he just say so? Why invent a story about imminent attacks on four embassies?
    Unlike you, I've been consistently against wars. I opposed Bush, I was disappointed with Obama and have always thought our meddling overseas, particularly in the ME, is not a good thing. So, unlike you, I don't just get upset about wars when a (R) or the Orange Man is in office and sit on my hands for 8 years when Obama is in charge.

    I won't post this question to you, since you can only answer that Orange-Man-Bad, but if a foreign country is responsible for the deaths of 600 of your soldiers, is doing nothing about it a good way to ensure future peace?

    IMO, be peaceful but be strong. Hitting this guy was a risk, thankfully one that looks like it's paying off for Trump (and the world and this country), but doing nothing about it wasn't necessarily a good way to ensure a long lasting peace, either. Hitting him might cause Iran to rethink it's aggression, not doing anything might have emboldened them to be more aggressive which might have put us closer to war.
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    Originally Posted by jeffl1980 View Post
    Did you not read your own article?

    “I didn’t see one with regard to four embassies,” Mr. Esper said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” But he added: “I share the president’s view that probably — my expectation was they were going to go after our embassies. The embassies are the most prominent display of American presence in a country.”
    Are you serious? Fuking lmao - you intentionally left out the paragraph immediately prior to that quote which provides the context.

    On Sunday came the latest twist. Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper said he was never shown any specific piece of evidence that Iran was planning an attack on four American embassies, as Mr. Trump had claimed just two days earlier.

    “I didn’t see one with regard to four embassies,” Mr. Esper said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” But he added: “I share the president’s view that probably — my expectation was they were going to go after our embassies. The embassies are the most prominent display of American presence in a country.”
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    Originally Posted by JUSA View Post
    Unlike you, I've been consistently against wars. I opposed Bush, I was disappointed with Obama and have always thought our meddling overseas, particularly in the ME, is not a good thing. So, unlike you, I don't just get upset about wars when a (R) or the Orange Man is in office and sit on my hands for 8 years when Obama is in charge.

    I won't post this question to you, since you can only answer that Orange-Man-Bad, but if a foreign country is responsible for the deaths of 600 of your soldiers, is doing nothing about it a good way to ensure future peace?

    IMO, be peaceful but be strong. Hitting this guy was a risk, thankfully one that looks like it's paying off for Trump (and the world and this country), but doing nothing about it wasn't necessarily a good way to ensure a long lasting peace, either. Hitting him might cause Iran to rethink it's aggression, not doing anything might have emboldened them to be more aggressive which might have put us closer to war.


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    Originally Posted by SmillironS View Post
    You’re a full blown water head if you think at this point war with Iran was ever an actual possibility. I can see how right after the killing of Solmeini right up until we found out the Irani rockets were all for show that you might have thought that but now? Come on man get a grip, Trump and crew had this scenario well in hand.
    This.



    Lmao at “yeah the guy was responsible for helping with the killing of over 500 Americans, and sure he was going to continue killing us....and yeah, we took him out with no retaliation from Iran leading to more American deaths. Sure, sure, America and Iran seem to be at a better place than they were before the attack...but let’s not forget that there was a risk involved with attacking him! Because of that I simply can’t condone the actions of this administration regarding this issue. Oh yeah, not to mention Trump is orange AND bad”.





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    Originally Posted by FoxMcCocks View Post
    Are you serious? Fuking lmao - you intentionally left out the paragraph immediately prior to that quote which provides the context.

    On Sunday came the latest twist. Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper said he was never shown any specific piece of evidence that Iran was planning an attack on four American embassies, as Mr. Trump had claimed just two days earlier.

    “I didn’t see one with regard to four embassies,” Mr. Esper said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” But he added: “I share the president’s view that probably — my expectation was they were going to go after our embassies. The embassies are the most prominent display of American presence in a country.”
    So he agreed with Trump’s assessment but didn’t see any specific evidence regarding 4 embassies. Can we put this is the same box as “mile high burger stack”??
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    Originally Posted by jtaylor2010 View Post
    So he agreed with Trump’s assessment but didn’t see any specific evidence regarding 4 embassies. Can we put this is the same box as “mile high burger stack”??
    I mean, you're dumb enough to believe that the US and Iran are in a better place now than before the strike. So you can believe whatever you want here lmao
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    imagine TDS sufferers praising Solemeini (sp.) now and then after another attack orchestrated by him kills one of their immediate family members.

    The fukking cringe. "b-b-but, orange man bad..."
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    Originally Posted by FoxMcCocks View Post
    I mean, you're dumb enough to believe that the US and Iran are in a better place now than before the strike. So you can believe whatever you want here lmao
    It depends on your perspective.

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    Iranian people now have further understanding that their government is horrible.
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    LMOA at the TDS sufferer foxmcucks, we are in a better place you fuking commie.

    After all the crazy chit we've seen the media and liberals defend in the past 3 years, this incident takes the cake. Theyre quite literally defending a terrorist who directly ordered the killings of Americans. A terrorist who is hated in his own nation, the civilians in Iran are burning his pictures and banners lmao.

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    Originally Posted by knightofday View Post
    LMOA at the TDS sufferer foxmcucks, we are in a better place you fuking commie.

    After all the crazy chit we've seen the media and liberals defend in the past 3 years, this incident takes the cake. Theyre quite literally defending a terrorist who directly ordered the killings of Americans. A terrorist who is hated in his own nation, the civilians in Iran are burning his pictures and banners lmao.

    Liberalism is a disease. It blinds you to reality and turns your heart towards hatred. The media reinforces this hate, day after day after day. I will never forget this timeline, the year 2020 when Democrats and liberals vigilantly defended the killing of a true terrorist responsible for the killings of THOUSANDS of people, who was even hated by his own people...this is a historically low time for liberals nationwide.
    Fuking lmao.

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    Originally Posted by FoxMcCocks View Post
    Fuking lmao.

    Can’t make a single coherent argument so just resort to unhinged screeching.
    LOL. You are one angry mofo.
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    Originally Posted by FoxMcCocks View Post
    Trump caught lying again about the justification for killing him.

    In for Trump cucks like OP to say it doesn’t matter
    #triggered

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    I think the funniest part of this thread is that the OP is too retarded to understand the article he posted

    It basically says that Trump’s neocon NSA talked him into killing Soleimani and that Trump lied when he said there were imminent attacks on 4 embassies that were prevented

    Why would a Trump cuck post a thread with this article? I guess because he’s just too dumb to realize the implication, probably thought the article was praising Trump

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    Originally Posted by BullittEV View Post
    imagine TDS sufferers praising Solemeini (sp.) now and then after another attack orchestrated by him kills one of their immediate family members.

    The fukking cringe. "b-b-but, orange man bad..."
    there are probably dozens of things on the presidents "to do" list.
    this terrorist was one of them.
    but if libs are suggesting trump said 8 months ago "if he's on an iraqi air field, blast him" along with 100 other possible situations? lol.

    they had him in their cross hairs and hit up trump with the info and asked for the green light.
    he gave it.

    seems pretty straight forward to me and how the chain of command works.
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    Originally Posted by FoxMcCocks View Post
    I mean, you're dumb enough to believe that the US and Iran are in a better place now than before the strike. So you can believe whatever you want here lmao
    And you're dumb enough to believe that the two countries had any type of meaningful relationship beforehand. Atleast now there's a feeling of fear within the Ayatollahs's circle knowing that this US President won't just brush aside attacks on his embassies abroad.
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