Reply
Results 1 to 28 of 28
  1. #1
    Registered User bheast69's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2020
    Age: 50
    Posts: 263
    Rep Power: 5
    bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    bheast69 is offline

    Getting the most out of supps

    I’m willing to spend money on whatever is gonna get me the best chance of recovery/strength/extra nutrition/
    Basically anything that has benefits
    Reply With Quote

  2. #2
    We know lol Farley1324's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2008
    Location: Cumming, Georgia, United States
    Posts: 122,519
    Rep Power: 474348
    Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Farley1324 is offline
    Originally Posted by bheast69 View Post
    I’m willing to spend money on whatever is gonna get me the best chance of recovery/strength/extra nutrition/
    Basically anything that has benefits
    The way to get the most out of supplements is to get the most out of your nutrition, training, and rest.

    Where are you now, what are your specific goals, what routine are you following, and what is your daily nutrition in terms of calories and carb/fat/protein?
    Last edited by Farley1324; 01-12-2020 at 07:20 AM.
    We will never know if we overreacted and did too much. We most certainly will know if we did too little.
    Reply With Quote

  3. #3
    Registered User bheast69's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2020
    Age: 50
    Posts: 263
    Rep Power: 5
    bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    bheast69 is offline
    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    The way to get the most out of supplements is to get the most out of your nutrition, training, and rest.

    Where are you now, what are your specific goals, what routine are you following, and what is your daily nutrition in terms of calories and carb/fat/protein?

    Probably some good supplements will be creatine monohydrate, fish oil (aim for 2-3g combined EPA/DHA per day), multi vitamin, protein powder (whey by default) to supplement the above nutrition to meet your daily macro/goal.
    Cheers for the reply mate
    Basically I play football three times a week pre season so lots of running rn
    I’m basically don’t have a rest day and my goals in the next 12 weeks is to achieve an increase in 20kg in bench and squat then 5kg increase in dumbbell shoulder press
    Working out for about a year and made alright progress
    2019 January 78kg
    January 2020 93kg
    I’m 16
    See all the boys in my gym with bags of stuff so jw what to take
    Reply With Quote

  4. #4
    We know lol Farley1324's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2008
    Location: Cumming, Georgia, United States
    Posts: 122,519
    Rep Power: 474348
    Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Farley1324 is offline
    Originally Posted by bheast69 View Post
    Cheers for the reply mate
    Basically I play football three times a week pre season so lots of running rn
    I’m basically don’t have a rest day and my goals in the next 12 weeks is to achieve an increase in 20kg in bench and squat then 5kg increase in dumbbell shoulder press
    Working out for about a year and made alright progress
    2019 January 78kg
    January 2020 93kg
    I’m 16
    See all the boys in my gym with bags of stuff so jw what to take
    Take more and healthier food and follow a good program. And sleep more.

    The answer is not supplements and it sure as **** isn't the crap the other guy is suggesting
    We will never know if we overreacted and did too much. We most certainly will know if we did too little.
    Reply With Quote

  5. #5
    Registered User bheast69's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2020
    Age: 50
    Posts: 263
    Rep Power: 5
    bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    bheast69 is offline
    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Take more and healthier food and follow a good program. And sleep more.

    The answer is not supplements and it sure as **** isn't the crap the other guy is suggesting
    And is that progress achievable
    Reply With Quote

  6. #6
    We know lol Farley1324's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2008
    Location: Cumming, Georgia, United States
    Posts: 122,519
    Rep Power: 474348
    Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Farley1324 is offline
    Originally Posted by bheast69 View Post
    And is that progress achievable
    Given your current routine, probably not. Running isn't likely to increase you squat
    We will never know if we overreacted and did too much. We most certainly will know if we did too little.
    Reply With Quote

  7. #7
    REMAIN INDOORS SuffolkPunch's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2007
    Location: Suffolk, United Kingdom (Great Britain)
    Posts: 48,987
    Rep Power: 1271201
    SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz
    SuffolkPunch is offline
    You could have an unlimited supplement budget and still not achieve as much as a guy who has no supplements - but works harder than you.

    There is no substitute for hard work. Also, there is no substitute for knowledge. Supplements are only useful for specific reasons. if there was a universal list then would help anyone achieve results, we'd just post that.

    Look into creatine, protein powder (whey most likely), vitamin D and omega 3 supplementation. Anything else is probably marginal at best - and even the one's I've mentioned are not required by everyone.
    Reply With Quote

  8. #8
    Registered User bheast69's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2020
    Age: 50
    Posts: 263
    Rep Power: 5
    bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    bheast69 is offline
    Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch View Post
    You could have an unlimited supplement budget and still not achieve as much as a guy who has no supplements - but works harder than you.

    There is no substitute for hard work. Also, there is no substitute for knowledge. Supplements are only useful for specific reasons. if there was a universal list then would help anyone achieve results, we'd just post that.

    Look into creatine, protein powder (whey most likely), vitamin D and omega 3 supplementation. Anything else is probably marginal at best - and even the one's I've mentioned are not required by everyone.
    Appreciate the reply thanks
    But yes I am aware of that a lot of people acknowledge my progress in the last year just trying to further them results
    Reply With Quote

  9. #9
    Chromadex Verified faipdeooiad's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2012
    Location: Manchester, Greater Manchester, United Kingdom (Great Britain)
    Posts: 5,202
    Rep Power: 64522
    faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    faipdeooiad is offline
    Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch View Post
    You could have an unlimited supplement budget and still not achieve as much as a guy who has no supplements - but works harder than you.

    There is no substitute for hard work. Also, there is no substitute for knowledge. Supplements are only useful for specific reasons. if there was a universal list then would help anyone achieve results, we'd just post that.

    Look into creatine, protein powder (whey most likely), vitamin D and omega 3 supplementation. Anything else is probably marginal at best - and even the one's I've mentioned are not required by everyone.
    As he’s 16 though, I wouldn’t necessarily be looking at supplementation of those either. Ignore what others are doing and do what people are saying - rest, eat, hydrate.
    Strong & Unstable
    Reply With Quote

  10. #10
    Chromadex Verified faipdeooiad's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2012
    Location: Manchester, Greater Manchester, United Kingdom (Great Britain)
    Posts: 5,202
    Rep Power: 64522
    faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    faipdeooiad is offline
    Originally Posted by bheast69 View Post
    Appreciate the reply thanks
    But yes I am aware of that a lot of people acknowledge my progress in the last year just trying to further them results
    That’ll come in time, you’re only 16 - you’re not going to start looking like a Mr Olympia contender any time soon.
    Strong & Unstable
    Reply With Quote

  11. #11
    Registered User bheast69's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2020
    Age: 50
    Posts: 263
    Rep Power: 5
    bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    bheast69 is offline
    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Given your current routine, probably not. Running isn't likely to increase you squat
    monday- chest/shoulders
    bench press 3x3
    dumbell shoulder press 3x6
    decline press machine 2x6 2x12
    lateral raise 4x12/15
    flyes 2x12
    tricep extension 4x12

    tuesday -football
    wednesday - legs
    squat 3x5
    hack squat 2x8 2x20 paused reps
    lying leg curl 3x15
    leg extension 10 reps lower the weight by 10kg each set no rest
    smith machine calf raises 5x10(straight away into seated raises)

    thursday - back and bis
    t bar row 4x10 half the weight 4x20
    dumbell row 4x8
    pull up 4xfailure
    seated narrow row 4x20
    barbell curl 4x15
    seated bicep curl 3x12

    friday- bench press 3x5
    floor press 3x10
    rdl 3x8
    dips 4x failure
    hammer curl 4x20
    single arm extension rope 4x15
    cable curls 4x20
    calf raises 5x15
    football

    saturday rest

    sunday football

    i can be flexible with that i creates it myself because i see results with them exercises and enjoy them.
    Reply With Quote

  12. #12
    Registered User bheast69's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2020
    Age: 50
    Posts: 263
    Rep Power: 5
    bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    bheast69 is offline
    Originally Posted by faipdeooiad View Post
    That’ll come in time, you’re only 16 - you’re not going to start looking like a Mr Olympia contender any time soon.
    not with that fuc**ng attitude
    Reply With Quote

  13. #13
    Registered User bheast69's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2020
    Age: 50
    Posts: 263
    Rep Power: 5
    bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    bheast69 is offline
    Originally Posted by faipdeooiad View Post
    As he’s 16 though, I wouldn’t necessarily be looking at supplementation of those either. Ignore what others are doing and do what people are saying - rest, eat, hydrate.
    yea im already taking creatine
    fish oil
    whey
    zinc
    vitamin c
    pre workout
    multi
    bcaa
    deuxtrose
    Reply With Quote

  14. #14
    Chromadex Verified faipdeooiad's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2012
    Location: Manchester, Greater Manchester, United Kingdom (Great Britain)
    Posts: 5,202
    Rep Power: 64522
    faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faipdeooiad has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    faipdeooiad is offline
    All the gear but no idea.

    Good luck in your 2020 wasted money goals.
    Strong & Unstable
    Reply With Quote

  15. #15
    Registered User bheast69's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2020
    Age: 50
    Posts: 263
    Rep Power: 5
    bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    bheast69 is offline
    Originally Posted by faipdeooiad View Post
    All the gear but no idea.

    Good luck in your 2020 wasted money goals.
    that was harsh
    Reply With Quote

  16. #16
    We know lol Farley1324's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2008
    Location: Cumming, Georgia, United States
    Posts: 122,519
    Rep Power: 474348
    Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Farley1324 is offline
    Cut your second bench day and make it a squats or pulls (deadlifts, power cleans, snatches, the like) day
    We will never know if we overreacted and did too much. We most certainly will know if we did too little.
    Reply With Quote

  17. #17
    Registered User bheast69's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2020
    Age: 50
    Posts: 263
    Rep Power: 5
    bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    bheast69 is offline
    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Cut your second bench day and make it a squats or pulls (deadlifts, power cleans, snatches, the like) day
    cheers for the reply
    can i ask why because as you can see im doing back the day before so pulls mighten be a good idea
    and is 3x3 good?
    Reply With Quote

  18. #18
    We know lol Farley1324's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2008
    Location: Cumming, Georgia, United States
    Posts: 122,519
    Rep Power: 474348
    Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Farley1324 is offline
    Originally Posted by bheast69 View Post
    cheers for the reply
    can i ask why because as you can see im doing back the day before so pulls mighten be a good idea
    and is 3x3 good?
    Switch days as needed if you want to keep the same basic routine, but it's imbalanced to have two days based on bench/upper body pressing, but only one day for upper pulls and only one day for squats/legs/deep knee bend. Squat and pull strength is more valuable than benching and it's better for long term shoulder health not to over emphasize the pressing
    We will never know if we overreacted and did too much. We most certainly will know if we did too little.
    Reply With Quote

  19. #19
    Registered User bheast69's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2020
    Age: 50
    Posts: 263
    Rep Power: 5
    bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    bheast69 is offline
    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Switch days as needed if you want to keep the same basic routine, but it's imbalanced to have two days based on bench/upper body pressing, but only one day for upper pulls and only one day for squats/legs/deep knee bend. Squat and pull strength is more valuable than benching and it's better for long term shoulder health not to over emphasize the pressing
    is that the only thing you would change
    i have added rdls and calf raises on that day
    maybe change the second day to decline press
    Reply With Quote

  20. #20
    We know lol Farley1324's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2008
    Location: Cumming, Georgia, United States
    Posts: 122,519
    Rep Power: 474348
    Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Farley1324 is offline
    Originally Posted by bheast69 View Post
    is that the only thing you would change
    i have added rdls and calf raises on that day
    maybe change the second day to decline press
    I wouldn't do decline press at all. It's probably the single most dangerous exercise you can do in the gym, not only are you passing a heavy metal bar over your face and throat (people literally die bench pressing most years) but now you're doing it at an angle such that if you have an issue or failure or breakage or slip during the rep, it can still come down on your face/throat/neck, vs over your sternum (not quite as dangerous) in a flat or incline bench. It's also even more prone than normal to ego lifting with heavier weights than you should be since the reduced range of motion and mechanical advantage of the position allows heavier weights than flat or incline
    We will never know if we overreacted and did too much. We most certainly will know if we did too little.
    Reply With Quote

  21. #21
    Registered User bheast69's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2020
    Age: 50
    Posts: 263
    Rep Power: 5
    bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    bheast69 is offline
    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    I wouldn't do decline press at all. It's probably the single most dangerous exercise you can do in the gym, not only are you passing a heavy metal bar over your face and throat (people literally die bench pressing most years) but now you're doing it at an angle such that if you have an issue or failure or breakage or slip during the rep, it can still come down on your face/throat/neck, vs over your sternum (not quite as dangerous) in a flat or incline bench. It's also even more prone than normal to ego lifting with heavier weights than you should be since the reduced range of motion and mechanical advantage of the position allows heavier weights than flat or incline
    guessing your a powerlifter
    any tips to get that bench press weight up
    Reply With Quote

  22. #22
    We know lol Farley1324's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2008
    Location: Cumming, Georgia, United States
    Posts: 122,519
    Rep Power: 474348
    Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Farley1324 is offline
    Originally Posted by bheast69 View Post
    guessing your a powerlifter
    any tips to get that bench press weight up
    I'm just a guy who lifts weights sometimes.

    My main tip would be not to put so much emphasis on your bench press. Drive up your (to or below parallel, crease of hip to top of patella) squat, and your hip hinge of choice (IE deadlift) and your overhead press, and chins and rows, and then also your bench. I know 16 year old boys are all about "whatcha bench", but it's overrated. I do like bench because it progresses the overhead press much better than the other way around, though...it is a main lift and it is important to the level of "necessary" if you can physically perform it. I'm rambling now.

    It's all about consistency over long period of time, time longer than it's been since you did your first barbell bench press rep ever. Do something reasonable, eat and sleep, and keep putting the work in week after week, month after month, year after year. Take a week off here and there when you need it or feel it or have a vacation. And don't buy bcaa or powdered carbs just eat food and drink chocolate milk
    We will never know if we overreacted and did too much. We most certainly will know if we did too little.
    Reply With Quote

  23. #23
    Registered User bheast69's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2020
    Age: 50
    Posts: 263
    Rep Power: 5
    bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    bheast69 is offline
    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    I'm just a guy who lifts weights sometimes.

    My main tip would be not to put so much emphasis on your bench press. Drive up your (to or below parallel, crease of hip to top of patella) squat, and your hip hinge of choice (IE deadlift) and your overhead press, and chins and rows, and then also your bench. I know 16 year old boys are all about "whatcha bench", but it's overrated. I do like bench because it progresses the overhead press much better than the other way around, though...it is a main lift and it is important to the level of "necessary" if you can physically perform it. I'm rambling now.

    It's all about consistency over long period of time, time longer than it's been since you did your first barbell bench press rep ever. Do something reasonable, eat and sleep, and keep putting the work in week after week, month after month, year after year. Take a week off here and there when you need it or feel it or have a vacation. And don't buy bcaa or powdered carbs just eat food and drink chocolate milk
    appreciate the reply
    i just take them because my bro knows the owner and gets me free **** so i might as well
    but the reason im trying to increase bench so much is because im miles ahead of everyone in my squats and deadlifts but not bench
    Reply With Quote

  24. #24
    Registered User nemLifts's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2020
    Posts: 142
    Rep Power: 1578
    nemLifts is just really nice. (+1000) nemLifts is just really nice. (+1000) nemLifts is just really nice. (+1000) nemLifts is just really nice. (+1000) nemLifts is just really nice. (+1000) nemLifts is just really nice. (+1000) nemLifts is just really nice. (+1000) nemLifts is just really nice. (+1000) nemLifts is just really nice. (+1000) nemLifts is just really nice. (+1000) nemLifts is just really nice. (+1000)
    nemLifts is offline
    Pretty much what everyone else is saying. You have to make sure nutrition and recovery are in check. Make sure that you're getting in high quality foods. If you limit the junk food you eat, it will go a long way.

    Since you're asking about supps, I'll let you know when I was in my later teenage years, I supplemented with whey, creatine and multivitamins.

    Now I'm not recommending them as nutrition and proper recovery are much more important, but..

    My diet was generally lacking the protein I had been suggested (0.8g/lb body weight per day) so to fill the 10-20 gram protein gap, I would SUPPLEMENT with a protein shake.

    Multivitamins may or may not make a difference. A physical exam can give you an idea of any nutrient gaps you may have in your diet. Vitamin D is a fairly common problem point for people who dont get much sun exposure.

    I'm not going to discuss creatine as that is something people generally try out and figure out whether it benefits them on their own. Definitely does not replace good nutrition and recovery.

    Good nutrition and recovery
    Last edited by nemLifts; 01-14-2020 at 12:25 AM.
    The only way to do something is to do it
    _______________________________

    Squat -> 255lb 5RM
    Deadlift -> 280lb 5RM
    Bench -> 185lb 5RM
    Reply With Quote

  25. #25
    Registered User bheast69's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2020
    Age: 50
    Posts: 263
    Rep Power: 5
    bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) bheast69 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    bheast69 is offline
    Originally Posted by nemLifts View Post
    Pretty much what everyone else is saying. You have to make sure nutrition and recovery are in check. Make sure that you're getting in high quality foods. If you limit the junk food you eat, it will go a long way.

    Since you're asking about supps, I'll let you know when I was in my later teenage years, I supplemented with whey, creatine and multivitamins.

    Now I'm not recommending them as nutrition and proper recovery are much more important, but..

    My diet was generally lacking the protein I had been suggested (0.8g/lb body weight per day) so to fill the 10-20 gram protein gap, I would SUPPLEMENT with a protein shake.

    Multivitamins may or may not make a difference. A physical exam can give you an idea of any nutrient gaps you may have in your diet. Vitamin D is a fairly common problem point for people who dont get much sun exposure.

    I'm not going to discuss creatine as that is something people generally try out and figure out whether it benefits them on their own. Definitely does not replace good nutrition and recovery.

    Good nutrition and recovery
    Cheers for the reply this is good to know
    Reply With Quote

  26. #26
    Registered User Leadn's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2020
    Age: 50
    Posts: 2
    Rep Power: 0
    Leadn is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    Leadn is offline
    Watch what you eat. That's the first step.
    Reply With Quote

  27. #27
    Registered User acrable's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2008
    Age: 39
    Posts: 52
    Rep Power: 215
    acrable will become famous soon enough. (+50) acrable will become famous soon enough. (+50) acrable will become famous soon enough. (+50) acrable will become famous soon enough. (+50) acrable will become famous soon enough. (+50) acrable will become famous soon enough. (+50) acrable will become famous soon enough. (+50) acrable will become famous soon enough. (+50) acrable will become famous soon enough. (+50) acrable will become famous soon enough. (+50) acrable will become famous soon enough. (+50)
    acrable is offline
    Was there a question the OP was asking?
    Reply With Quote

  28. #28
    We know lol Farley1324's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2008
    Location: Cumming, Georgia, United States
    Posts: 122,519
    Rep Power: 474348
    Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Farley1324 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Farley1324 is offline
    Originally Posted by acrable View Post
    Was there a question the OP was asking?
    There are questions from OP in this thread if you read it.

    But the bottom line is OP needs to focus on diet and routine and time and not waste money on supps, I think
    We will never know if we overreacted and did too much. We most certainly will know if we did too little.
    Reply With Quote

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts