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    Question how to take? pills or powder? or together? need advice

    i'm confusing myself
    i have caffeine 200mg pills and planning to buy creatine powder and theanine for crash/jittery from caffeine
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    C4 Extreme have creatine 1g+beta alanine+tyrosine+200mg caffeine..

    i thought to do that: C4 extreme + theanine 200mg capsule + creatine 3-5g powder
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    200mg caffeine+200mg teanine and 5g creatine powder? if i find free allergen (allergic to treenuts/dairy)

    almost all products proceeds in allergen facility :/
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    What are you confused about? You either take caffeine pills or C4, pick one but keep in mind 200mg of theanine might be too sedating and total cancel out the stimulation from caffeine.
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    Originally Posted by Needhelp26 View Post
    i'm confusing myself
    i have caffeine 200mg pills and planning to buy creatine powder and theanine for crash/jittery from caffeine
    but
    C4 Extreme have creatine 1g+beta alanine+tyrosine+200mg caffeine..

    i thought to do that: C4 extreme + theanine 200mg capsule + creatine 3-5g powder
    or
    200mg caffeine+200mg teanine and 5g creatine powder? if i find free allergen (allergic to treenuts/dairy)

    almost all products proceeds in allergen facility :/
    Do you crash from caffeine or is this something you read online and are trying to combat?

    Creatine can be taken at any point during the day. If you like C4 Extreme and it works for you, then use that. If you need to add theanine (@ 2:1 ratio) then do that and try it out for a workout. You are your own test subject.. find what works for you.

    Originally Posted by eatyourspinach View Post
    What are you confused about? You either take caffeine pills or C4, pick one but keep in mind 200mg of theanine might be too sedating and total cancel out the stimulation from caffeine.
    Wat? Theanine is synergistic with caffeine to actually enhance stimulant effects.
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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post



    Wat? Theanine is synergistic with caffeine to actually enhance stimulant effects.
    I notice that if it isn't at least a 2:1 ratio it's too much, maybe that's just personal preference though, I feel like it's a reason some users also stay away from theanine in pre's
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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    You are your own test subject.. find what works for you.
    OP, this is the best advice, start more basic/less and see what works for you.
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    Originally Posted by eatyourspinach View Post
    I notice that if it isn't at least a 2:1 ratio it's too much, maybe that's just personal preference though, I feel like it's a reason some users also stay away from theanine in pre's
    Interdasting. I have the complete opposite, i remember being turned on to theanine from a chemist buddy and love it. I purchase 200mg theanine tablets quite frequently now and use with EC (2-3x daily). Love it.
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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    Do you crash from caffeine or is this something you read online and are trying to combat?

    Creatine can be taken at any point during the day. If you like C4 Extreme and it works for you, then use that. If you need to add theanine (@ 2:1 ratio) then do that and try it out for a workout. You are your own test subject.. find what works for you.



    Wat? Theanine is synergistic with caffeine to actually enhance stimulant effects.
    i read that on internet about crash and etc, so i think maybe i have it too, because after i read i started to notice i'm mostly restless after coffee...
    i will try caffeine+theanine.

    about creatine, Cellucor CN3 good? i'm asking about cellucor because it's allergen free
    or bpi if it's allergen free
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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    Interdasting. I have the complete opposite, i remember being turned on to theanine from a chemist buddy and love it. I purchase 200mg theanine tablets quite frequently now and use with EC (2-3x daily). Love it.
    I’m similar to spinach - theanine makes me want to go to bed
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    Originally Posted by Needhelp26 View Post
    about creatine, Cellucor CN3 good? i'm asking about cellucor because it's allergen free
    or bpi if it's allergen free
    If you are looking for a pump product with creatine that's the CN3. Otherwise, if you are just looking for it to get you to saturation, the regular monohydrate is more than ok 3-5 daily.
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    Originally Posted by stad0203 View Post
    If you are looking for a pump product with creatine that's the CN3. Otherwise, if you are just looking for it to get you to saturation, the regular monohydrate is more than ok 3-5 daily.
    thank you very much!
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