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    Brady’s numbers this decade with and without Gronk





    Like I said in another thread, Brady was average this decade without Gronk and if you go back to the 2000’s, Brady was also statistically mediocre except one season with Moss. which begs the question — has Brady ever really looked elite when he wasn’t throwing to Gronk/Moss?
    and that’s the bottom line
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    I remember you crying about Rodgers having his worst season when he lost Jordy - you said it would be like if Brady lost Gronk (4 SB wins)

    And Rodgers was in his prime lmao
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    Since 2008 when Jordy Nelson entered NFL, Aaron Rodgers has a 106.5 passer rating in games Nelson played compared to 92.7 when he didn't in 2015. After Nelson left Green Bay, Rodgers passer rating has declined each year thereafter.

    Rodgers was statistically mediocre the one season without Nelson. which begs the question — has Rodgers ever really looked elite when he wasn’t throwing to Nelson?
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    Not a pats fan, definitely love seeing them out of the playoffs for once, and also believe Brady has been somewhat propped up by multiple factors.

    Having said that, this type of analysis is fairly useless. “Quarterback xyz has had a substantially lower QBR when they don’t have an elite #1 target available as opposed to when they do have an elite #1 target available. Therefore...EXPOSED”
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    Op you're embarrassing yourself. Give it a rest. Brady is the GOAT and you aren't convincing anyone he isn't. Just enjoy Aaron Rodgers.
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    Damn Matt Schaub is a pretty good comparison for Brady
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    Forgot to congratulate you OP. I forgot Aaron Rodgers finally ended up with a better QB rating than Tom Brady after 4 years of falling behind the old man.
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    Originally Posted by iamgenus View Post
    Forgot to congratulate you OP. I forgot Aaron Rodgers finally ended up with a better QB rating than Tom Brady after 4 years of falling behind the old man.
    i thought he couldn't play till 45-50. I thought he had the best nutritionist and didn't eat even night shade vegetables.

    Oh wait that was all bs? Just admit gronk moss and bill carried this bum
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    Originally Posted by SmashinYoungVag View Post
    i thought he couldn't play till 45-50. I thought he had the best nutritionist and didn't eat even night shade vegetables.

    Oh wait that was all bs? Just admit gronk moss and bill carried this bum
    I don't even know who the fuk you are or what you other account is.

    Who said Brady can't play til 45 if he wanted to?

    It just means he needs proper talent around him to play better at this point.


    Apparently some of you must forget what a QB falling off a cliff actually looks like

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    One of these is not like the others.
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    Tom Brady has 3 Super Bowls this decade.

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    Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333 View Post
    Tom Brady has 3 Super Bowls this decade.

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    Most impressive one out of the group was without Gronk too...

    But apparently a QB not having his best weapon means he doesn't play as well. This and more shocking news coming at you daily on sports misc.
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    Originally Posted by iamgenus View Post
    Most impressive one out of the group was without Gronk too...
    OP conveniently left that out when he made this thread. That kind of information would certainly not fit his narrative.
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    Hey 2010 that was the last time Rodger won a Super Bowl! Seriously OP maybe try humble pie and then you'll see your man get his 2nd ring.
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    Originally Posted by beer n brats View Post




    Like I said in another thread, Brady was average this decade without Gronk and if you go back to the 2000’s, Brady was also statistically mediocre except one season with Moss. which begs the question — has Brady ever really looked elite when he wasn’t throwing to Gronk/Moss?
    Joe Montana is my all time favorite QB but I could ask how would it have effected how he was perceived if he did not have Jerry rice?
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    Originally Posted by Tyler2106 View Post
    OP conveniently left that out when he made this thread. That kind of information would certainly not fit his narrative.
    Brady having a great game without gronk/moss is more of an anomaly. It happens. But so does detlef schrempf outscoring MJ in a finals game....
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    Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333 View Post
    Tom Brady has 3 Super Bowls this decade.

    /end thread
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    I remember you crying about Rodgers having his worst season when he lost Jordy - you said it would be like if Brady lost Gronk (4 SB wins)

    And Rodgers was in his prime lmao
    No need to become unhinged over this
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    In no way is this saying Tom Brady isn’t good. He is good, but he isn’t the best quarterback of all time, or even top three in his era.

    Most of his career is marred by cheating scandals, getting bailed out by otherworldly ****ty performances by opponents, and choking to backup caliber QBs.

    There are many statistics that support this. See me above with any questions.

    He is good, but no better than marginally above average. He is the most manufactured superstar in NFL history.
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    All you need to know is that all these great wide receivers praise him and want to play with him. Moss loved Brady.

    They all know he's the GOAT.
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    Originally Posted by beer n brats View Post




    Like I said in another thread, Brady was average this decade without Gronk and if you go back to the 2000’s, Brady was also statistically mediocre except one season with Moss. which begs the question — has Brady ever really looked elite when he wasn’t throwing to Gronk/Moss?
    Yeah he looked pretty elite hoisting six Lombardi's.
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    Originally Posted by Miked1978 View Post
    Op you're embarrassing yourself. Give it a rest. Brady is the GOAT and you aren't convincing anyone he isn't. Just enjoy Aaron Rodgers.
    He knows those days are numbered so he tries to get out ahead of the collapse.
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    Originally Posted by iamgenus View Post
    Forgot to congratulate you OP. I forgot Aaron Rodgers finally ended up with a better QB rating than Tom Brady after 4 years of falling behind the old man.
    Considering Rodgers has 1 NFL WR on his roster who missed a quarter of the games with turf toe, that’s not bad actually!

    Unless the likes of the undrafyed Kumerow, Lazard, and the ghost of Jimmy Graham are now considered good targets?

    Rodgers offensive firepower has gone down every year since entering the league. At one point he had jennngs, Nelson, jones, and Finley...
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