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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    It's too bad the K16i or maybe z6i doesn't cost $1,400 or less. Some people might not care about paying $800 more for the scope/mount, but from where I sit that's a huge price difference
    After show season there will be demos going around for $1600.

    It really depends on what you're buying. It's a better scope than the Razor, but do you care that it's better?

    It's similar to a KAC SR15 at $2500 vs a BCM at $1400. The KAC is a better rifle, but do you care?

    For most guys doing carbine classes with an AR, a $400 MRO is going to be a better buy than a $2000 K16i. When you start shooting 3gun in places with longer shots you start having different experiences.

    I'm still a huge fan of my Trijicon TR24 1-4X24. The Kahles is a better scope, but the Trijicon is still really really good.
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    Originally Posted by Ikeman83 View Post
    After show season there will be demos going around for $1600.

    It really depends on what you're buying. It's a better scope than the Razor, but do you care that it's better?

    It's similar to a KAC SR15 at $2500 vs a BCM at $1400. The KAC is a better rifle, but do you care?

    For most guys doing carbine classes with an AR, a $400 MRO is going to be a better buy than a $2000 K16i. When you start shooting 3gun in places with longer shots you start having different experiences.

    I'm still a huge fan of my Trijicon TR24 1-4X24. The Kahles is a better scope, but the Trijicon is still really really good.
    For the extra money I don't care that it's better, or lighter (though the Razor E does go on a 4oz diet at least)

    lol...you're a ****ing wizard one of the threads I read on m4c made that exact analogy and I thought it sounded spot on...BCM AR and Razor HD vs Kahles and KAC SR15.

    I do still really like my TR24, it looks plenty good to me, reticle is always visible no matter the conditions without touching anything with no electronics at all, 'true' 1x, made well, pretty light...

    That price difference could literally buy the Razor and a complete MCMR BCM upper including BCG and CH...or 15% off Geissele 11.5" super duty complete upper. Or an MP 2.0 + tritium sight + Apex + 1k rounds lol duty/carry poly pistols are so cheap after window shopping even simple AR type rifle stuff
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    For the extra money I don't care that it's better, or lighter (though the Razor E does go on a 4oz diet at least)

    lol...you're a ****ing wizard one of the threads I read on m4c made that exact analogy and I thought it sounded spot on...BCM AR and Razor HD vs Kahles and KAC SR15.

    I do still really like my TR24, it looks plenty good to me, reticle is always visible no matter the conditions without touching anything with no electronics at all, 'true' 1x, made well, pretty light...

    That price difference could literally buy the Razor and a complete MCMR BCM upper including BCG and CH...or 15% off Geissele 11.5" super duty complete upper. Or an MP 2.0 + tritium sight + Apex + 1k rounds lol duty/carry poly pistols are so cheap after window shopping even simple AR type rifle stuff
    Yup, and the guys buying them just don't care because they want that improvement.

    A lot of the guys running our higher mag stuff in PRS decide that they want that same clarity on an AR.

    I mean, these things are $2500 retail...

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    Speaking of BCM, and I love them, but they’ve been looking pretty bad lately with their barrels.

    Dude on arfcom posted on bunch of pics of different chrome lined barrels with a bore scope and the BCM looked terrible.
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    Originally Posted by spirit750 View Post
    Is it ADL, BDL, CDL? That is the different grades for the 700 with ADL being the lowest and CDL the highest. Honestly though, it's not going to be worth a lot these days unless you find the right fudd. 30.06 is an outdated caliber and the 700 doesn't carry as much clout as it used to. Rough guess maybe $400-$600 depending on the grade, scope, condition, etc.

    You can go on gunbroker and look for similar rifles and see what people are asking there. The prices are usually high so don't expect to get what you see.
    After doing some more reading it is an ADL. Thank you for taking the time to respond. Going to do some more research on the scope and check gunbroker for pricing. Reps.
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    is this what you were trying to get me to google search for?
    That is one way of looking at it.
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    Originally Posted by Ikeman83 View Post
    After show season there will be demos going around for $1600.
    Where would I find these demos?
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    Originally Posted by Lefticle View Post
    Just sold a Ceradyne front ESAPI and 2 side plates for $150. AMA
    how many times did you drop them
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    Where would I find these demos?
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    freakin' Fn 509's going for canik prices. waht in tarnation

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    how many times did you drop them
    Uhhh zero bruh. But part of their QC is a drop test with a 10lb weight on it. So they’ve been dropped at least once in their lifetime.
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    freakin' Fn 509's going for canik prices. waht in tarnation

    how you liking your vedder for the PPS, Ikey?
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    Do they get posted for sale marked as demos? I would presume they would not last long on these sites... I need to buy a proper scope for an AR10 but know nothing about them...
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    Originally Posted by NeckbeardKilla View Post
    Do they get posted for sale marked as demos? I would presume they would not last long on these sites... I need to buy a proper scope for an AR10 but know nothing about them...
    Yeah, they get posted for sale as demos and are usually gone almost immediately.
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    How do I put this...semi auto Taurus and modern US made Sig are god tier compared to the reputation of promag
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    What’s that site you guys use for ammo with the membership? Target sports? Is it worth it if you are just buying say, 2-3k 9mm, 1-2k 12 ga etc.
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    What’s that site you guys use for ammo with the membership? Target sports? Is it worth it if you are just buying say, 2-3k 9mm, 1-2k 12 ga etc.
    Target Sports USA ammo Prime membership, yes.

    You can figure out if it's worth it for you, if you have a pretty good idea what you're likely to buy over the course of a year.

    It's basically a straight 8% off all ammo + free shipping on all ammo regardless of quantity ordered. So if you're buying case quantities that already ship for free you're only saving 8%. Which means you'd have to spend about $1,100 on ammo over the 12 months to come out ahead (I say ahead because they do give a free box of ammo, my first was 50 rounds of .40 Winchester Ranger and second was 50 of PMC Bronze 9mm in a new .30 USGI type ammo can so that's some value, they give a round that you have ordered before).

    The real advantage is in the free shipping on any quantity. Like, who buys a case of HST when it's on sale then a case of Gold Dot when it's on sale, and a case of 77gr SMK 5.56, need some .22lr yeah let's just buy 5k rounds of each that interests us...lol
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    Target Sports USA ammo Prime membership, yes.

    You can figure out if it's worth it for you, if you have a pretty good idea what you're likely to buy over the course of a year.

    It's basically a straight 8% off all ammo + free shipping on all ammo regardless of quantity ordered. So if you're buying case quantities that already ship for free you're only saving 8%. Which means you'd have to spend about $1,100 on ammo over the 12 months to come out ahead (I say ahead because they do give a free box of ammo, my first was 50 rounds of .40 Winchester Ranger and second was 50 of PMC Bronze 9mm in a new .30 USGI type ammo can so that's some value, they give a round that you have ordered before).

    The real advantage is in the free shipping on any quantity. Like, who buys a case of HST when it's on sale then a case of Gold Dot when it's on sale, and a case of 77gr SMK 5.56, need some .22lr yeah let's just buy 5k rounds of each that interests us...lol
    I’d probably come out ahead on small amounts.. 6.5 and HST’s and whatnot. Thanks Farley
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    Target Sports USA ammo Prime membership, yes.

    You can figure out if it's worth it for you, if you have a pretty good idea what you're likely to buy over the course of a year.

    It's basically a straight 8% off all ammo + free shipping on all ammo regardless of quantity ordered. l
    8% off everything? like 1000k of the already dirt cheap steel 223s?
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    Originally Posted by Oddball8945 View Post
    8% off everything? like 1000k of the already dirt cheap steel 223s?
    The Wolf steel case .223 is $3.67/20 or $183.54/1k with free shipping on any quantity
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    The Wolf steel case .223 is $3.67/20 or $183.54/1k with free shipping on any quantity
    right, i've seen in in the 160's for 1k shipped for tul. was wondering if the membership drops it more.
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    Originally Posted by DualRectifier View Post
    The GST murder trial just started. They are in jury selection right now.
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    The GST murder trial just started. They are in jury selection right now.
    About time. Thanks for keeping us updated. Can't wait to see this one over with.
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    Gst??
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    Gst??
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Target Sports USA ammo Prime membership, yes.

    You can figure out if it's worth it for you, if you have a pretty good idea what you're likely to buy over the course of a year.

    It's basically a straight 8% off all ammo + free shipping on all ammo regardless of quantity ordered. So if you're buying case quantities that already ship for free you're only saving 8%. Which means you'd have to spend about $1,100 on ammo over the 12 months to come out ahead (I say ahead because they do give a free box of ammo, my first was 50 rounds of .40 Winchester Ranger and second was 50 of PMC Bronze 9mm in a new .30 USGI type ammo can so that's some value, they give a round that you have ordered before).

    The real advantage is in the free shipping on any quantity. Like, who buys a case of HST when it's on sale then a case of Gold Dot when it's on sale, and a case of 77gr SMK 5.56, need some .22lr yeah let's just buy 5k rounds of each that interests us...lol
    Anyone know where you can get the best rate on like 10k+ rounds of 9mm?

    I'm thinking of buying like 10 or 20k in one go. Preferably speer lawman 124gr, or blazer 124gr

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    Or I guess that's where it would be economical to finally get into reloading, like a Dillon 650. Plus it would be good in preparation for elections.
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    Originally Posted by Millz View Post
    Anyone know where you can get the best rate on like 10k+ rounds of 9mm?

    I'm thinking of buying like 10 or 20k in one go. Preferably speer lawman 124gr, or blazer 124gr

    ETA

    Or I guess that's where it would be economical to finally get into reloading, like a Dillon 650. Plus it would be good in preparation for elections.
    Do some research there too. Everyone has the same idea and reloading isn't impervious to the banic either. Certain components become impossible to find, such as powder. Prices ran up during the last election also. I haven't been buying any reloading things to see where it stands now, but it's worth comparing against a big bulk buy before you invest in a set up. Also think about whether or not you can collect your brass from the places you shoot, as that is really the only thing you're saving money on over time.
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