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    Originally Posted by NeckbeardKilla View Post
    My New Year resolution is to purchase a CZ 75 Tactical Sport Orange in 9mm. It looks like my only option is to get one from gunbroker. Anyone purchase a firearm from gunbroker before who can share some advice? It is appreciated.

    I have a reverse stretch MP5 to obtain first though...
    Buy from a seller that has an FFL and feedback.

    Expect to overpay.

    You don't get anything "from gunbroker", you get it from the seller you choose to buy from, and gunbroker facilitates the two of you meeting. So, it's all about the seller
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Oh yeah? What's your times and distances, phaggot?!?!

    I asked earlier this week and no one answered me on their bill drill times and distances.

    I finally ordered a new shot timer so I need some times to aim for.
    Bill drills are done at 7 yards, you’d know that if your only concern wasn’t how many gear logos you can fit on a CZ.

    Usually around 2.2 seconds. Which isn’t fast but with a Glock 19 and normal ammo, not bad. I’m slow to get the first shot off. Low ready, not from draw either. Grouping was way better though because the sights tracked better. I’ll get a video with the timer next time I go.

    Fast is under 2 seconds from a draw.
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    CZ Custom just posted their A01LD Limited. It’s so hnggg.

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    I keep seeing deals for LEO trade in Glock 22s for around $200. I've been thinking of picking up something in .40 short and weak and don't currently own any Glocks. Would this be a bad idea or terrible idea?
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    Originally Posted by TBO1313 View Post
    I keep seeing deals for LEO trade in Glock 22s for around $200. I've been thinking of picking up something in .40 short and weak and don't currently own any Glocks. Would this be a bad idea or terrible idea?
    Of course not. Get one.
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    Originally Posted by benz5521 View Post
    Bill drills are done at 7 yards, you’d know that if your only concern wasn’t how many gear logos you can fit on a CZ.
    Not sure if srs. 7 yards is "standard" but can be done at absolutely any distance you want....
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    Originally Posted by TBO1313 View Post
    I keep seeing deals for LEO trade in Glock 22s for around $200. I've been thinking of picking up something in .40 short and weak and don't currently own any Glocks. Would this be a bad idea or terrible idea?
    Not a bad idea. You could get a conversion barrel to 9mm for around $100. Then you could get that and shoot both 9mm and .40 for $300 total.
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    Originally Posted by Lefticle View Post
    Not a bad idea. You could get a conversion barrel to 9mm for around $100. Then you could get that and shoot both 9mm and .40 for $300 total.
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    Of course not. Get one.
    Interesting. Looks like I'm gonna get it the next time I see it. What are the differences between Glock gens that I should be aware of?
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    FWIW
    http://pistol-training.com/drills/bill-drill
    Snip: "The Bill Drill is intended to improve speed without sacrificing accuracy. The details listed above are the traditional version, but any 6-shot drill done at speed on a single target can achieve the same basic goal.

    Six shots are fired as quickly as the shooter can achieve six hits on the target. The drill teaches sight tracking, proper visual reference, recoil management, and trigger manipulation."

    That dates to 2007. It is true that a 'traditional' or default bill drill is at 7 yards, but it doesn't have to be. It does have to be 6 shots as quick as you can hit or else it's called something else
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    FWIW
    http://pistol-training.com/drills/bill-drill
    Snip: "The Bill Drill is intended to improve speed without sacrificing accuracy. The details listed above are the traditional version, but any 6-shot drill done at speed on a single target can achieve the same basic goal.

    Six shots are fired as quickly as the shooter can achieve six hits on the target. The drill teaches sight tracking, proper visual reference, recoil management, and trigger manipulation."

    That dates to 2007. It is true that a 'traditional' or default bill drill is at 7 yards, but it doesn't have to be. It does have to be 6 shots as quick as you can hit or else it's called something else
    I know people who shoot bill drills as far as 25 yards and as close as 3. Lmao at only running drills at one distance.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Not sure if srs. 7 yards is "standard" but can be done at absolutely any distance you want....
    You are so dumb sometimes I’m scared you get to handle guns for a living.
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    You are so dumb sometimes I’m scared you get to handle guns for a living.
    You seem really mad that you're so stupid you thought it had to be shot at 7 yards and 7 yards only.
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    Originally Posted by NeckbeardKilla View Post
    My New Year resolution is to purchase a CZ 75 Tactical Sport Orange in 9mm. It looks like my only option is to get one from gunbroker. Anyone purchase a firearm from gunbroker before who can share some advice? It is appreciated.

    I have a reverse stretch MP5 to obtain first though...
    Gunbroker is the online version of a modern day gun show. 95% of it is boomer fuds relisting their MSRP +5% for the 100th time since no one buys their stuff. Once in a blue moon you might get something for a reasonable price. I would only use it if I were trying to find something rare, otherwise I've always found cheaper prices elsewhere.

    Is there any reason you can't buy from any of these websites?
    https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/806703912615

    Originally Posted by TBO1313 View Post
    I keep seeing deals for LEO trade in Glock 22s for around $200. I've been thinking of picking up something in .40 short and weak and don't currently own any Glocks. Would this be a bad idea or terrible idea?
    I haven't seen any that low. The cheapest I've seen is $230 plus $15 shipping. Your FFL will also charge you to transfer the handgun which can range anywhere from $5-$80. If you decide to to change it to 9mm you will need a barrel and also magazines. Figure out what that total cost would be and then compare the price to a used G19 or G17 locally and see if it's worth it.

    I always wondered if converting from 40 to 9 in a glock can you just drop in a 9mm barrel and call it good or do you need a "conversion" barrel. A regular 3rd party glock 9mm barrel can be had as cheap as $40
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    Originally Posted by TBO1313 View Post
    I keep seeing deals for LEO trade in Glock 22s for around $200. I've been thinking of picking up something in .40 short and weak and don't currently own any Glocks. Would this be a bad idea or terrible idea?
    If you have 'enough' firearms in calibers/cartridges you are more interested in and that make more sense but you have zero in .40, and you also have 'enough' ammo and mags and spare parts for your other firearms, it can make sense to broaden your horizons and expand your potential usable ammo pool by picking up an inexpensive pistol in .40 to shoot just a little and then have hang around. There have been really good deals on FNS 40 and M&P 2.0 .40 pistols brand new as well
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    I haven't seen any that low. The cheapest I've seen is $230 plus $15 shipping. Your FFL will also charge you to transfer the handgun which can range anywhere from $5-$80. If you decide to to change it to 9mm you will need a barrel and also magazines. Figure out what that total cost would be and then compare the price to a used G19 or G17 locally and see if it's worth it.

    I always wondered if converting from 40 to 9 in a glock can you just drop in a 9mm barrel and call it good or do you need a "conversion" barrel. A regular 3rd party glock 9mm barrel can be had as cheap as $40
    The deal that made me think about it was $220 for the gun. I think they might even get cheaper who knows. The cheapest G19 or G17 I've seen locally was $450 and was used. Used guns where I live are obscenely overpriced. I've already have a polymer 9mm that I really like I just want to get something in .40 but I'd probably end up with a conversion barrel eventually. I think you need a conversion barrel to do it properly to fit the slide but I've heard of people just dropping in a 9mm barrel and it working but I'm not a Glock expert.
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    The deal that made me think about it was $220 for the gun. I think they might even get cheaper who knows. The cheapest G19 or G17 I've seen locally was $450 and was used. Used guns where I live are obscenely overpriced. I've already have a polymer 9mm that I really like I just want to get something in .40 but I'd probably end up with a conversion barrel eventually. I think you need a conversion barrel to do it properly to fit the slide but I've heard of people just dropping in a 9mm barrel and it working but I'm not a Glock expert.
    If that a 9mm means singular, it's time to get more of or like that...and probably mags and ammo too...not a fuddy just-because
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    If that a 9mm means singular, it's time to get more of or like that...and probably mags and ammo too...not a fuddy just-because
    I cleaned out the local Wal Mart of 9mm while it was $9 for 100 winchester white box and I already had about 500 rounds of 9mm Finochi(spelling) laying around. I have the completed upper for an AR9 that is just waiting for me to assemble the lower (just got the parts last week) so that will make 2 9mm guns. I've also got a .45 1911. I do admit that I need to get a compact gun and am still kicking myself for not getting the Remington r51 when it was on sale for $150 (I know, I know Rustington). I'm leaning toward getting a S&W Shield for a compact that would be 9mm as well. I've always like shotguns and rifles but I'm recently getting into pistols more.

    I do need more 5.56 mags though. I only have 7
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    Originally Posted by TBO1313 View Post
    I cleaned out the local Wal Mart of 9mm while it was $9 for 100 winchester white box and I already had about 500 rounds of 9mm Finochi(spelling) laying around. I have the completed upper for an AR9 that is just waiting for me to assemble the lower (just got the parts last week) so that will make 2 9mm guns. I've also got a .45 1911. I do admit that I need to get a compact gun and am still kicking myself for not getting the Remington r51 when it was on sale for $150 (I know, I know Rustington). I'm leaning toward getting a S&W Shield for a compact that would be 9mm as well. I've always like shotguns and rifles but I'm recently getting into pistols more.

    I do need more 5.56 mags though. I only have 7
    I think it's safe to say the R51 was the worst production handgun of the decade. You would've dun goofed if you bought one of those. Best bang for your buck was/is the shield by a huge margin. I think you missed the rebate though
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    You seem really mad that you're so stupid you thought it had to be shot at 7 yards and 7 yards only.
    Your hubby must be mad that you don’t give up when you prove yourself wrong. Your very own quote;

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    If it’s anything other then 7 yards it’s modified. It’s not a true bill drill.

    So when someone says they shot a bill drill, you know it’s 7 yards. If you actually shot and hung out with shooters instead of fapping to CZs everyday this wouldn’t even be a debate.

    The only reason it is is because you’ve been on the rag for like 2 weeks now for some reason. You’ve officially over taken Farley on being THE argumentative prick of MFC just to be a prick.
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    Originally Posted by TBO1313 View Post
    I cleaned out the local Wal Mart of 9mm while it was $9 for 100 winchester white box and I already had about 500 rounds of 9mm Finochi(spelling) laying around. I have the completed upper for an AR9 that is just waiting for me to assemble the lower (just got the parts last week) so that will make 2 9mm guns. I've also got a .45 1911. I do admit that I need to get a compact gun and am still kicking myself for not getting the Remington r51 when it was on sale for $150 (I know, I know Rustington). I'm leaning toward getting a S&W Shield for a compact that would be 9mm as well. I've always like shotguns and rifles but I'm recently getting into pistols more.

    I do need more 5.56 mags though. I only have 7
    That still feels like you over paid.
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    Originally Posted by OrificeSpunk View Post
    Gunbroker is the online version of a modern day gun show. 95% of it is boomer fuds relisting their MSRP +5% for the 100th time since no one buys their stuff. Once in a blue moon you might get something for a reasonable price. I would only use it if I were trying to find something rare, otherwise I've always found cheaper prices elsewhere.

    Is there any reason you can't buy from any of these websites?
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    I haven't seen any that low. The cheapest I've seen is $230 plus $15 shipping. Your FFL will also charge you to transfer the handgun which can range anywhere from $5-$80. If you decide to to change it to 9mm you will need a barrel and also magazines. Figure out what that total cost would be and then compare the price to a used G19 or G17 locally and see if it's worth it.

    I always wondered if converting from 40 to 9 in a glock can you just drop in a 9mm barrel and call it good or do you need a "conversion" barrel. A regular 3rd party glock 9mm barrel can be had as cheap as $40
    Need an actual conversion barrel, I think because of barrel diameter. I did see a vid with someone using the .40 mags to shoot 9mm and he didn't have any feed issues. But even though you CAN, I wouldn't, especially when for a couple hundred more I can have 2 guns instead of one.
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    Originally Posted by benz5521 View Post
    Your hubby must be mad that you don’t give up when you prove yourself wrong. Your very own quote;
    I didn't quote that.
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    Originally Posted by OrificeSpunk View Post
    I think it's safe to say the R51 was the worst production handgun of the decade. You would've dun goofed if you bought one of those. Best bang for your buck was/is the shield by a huge margin. I think you missed the rebate though
    I heard that the early runs of the gun were horrific but they got corrected and the ones that work are some of the most accurate compact guns you can get. I would've rolled the dice for $150. I have a feeling the Shield rebates will come back around or there will be a deal close to that good before long. I don't think handguns are in the same political danger as ARs right now and that is why I was focusing on them

    Originally Posted by SpeedCheeser View Post
    That still feels like you over paid.
    LOL I've had good luck with Winchester ammo so far
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    So we're having a fargument about whether or not a drill intended to be shot at 7 yards could be shot at other distances? Intredasting.
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    Originally Posted by TBO1313 View Post
    I cleaned out the local Wal Mart of 9mm while it was $9 for 100 winchester white box and I already had about 500 rounds of 9mm Finochi(spelling) laying around. I have the completed upper for an AR9 that is just waiting for me to assemble the lower (just got the parts last week) so that will make 2 9mm guns. I've also got a .45 1911. I do admit that I need to get a compact gun and am still kicking myself for not getting the Remington r51 when it was on sale for $150 (I know, I know Rustington). I'm leaning toward getting a S&W Shield for a compact that would be 9mm as well. I've always like shotguns and rifles but I'm recently getting into pistols more.

    I do need more 5.56 mags though. I only have 7
    Definitely put another 9mm pistol as higher priority
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    So we're having a fargument about whether or not a drill intended to be shot at 7 yards could be shot at other distances? Intredasting.
    7 yards, 6 shots in under 3 seconds to have your group within the size of a dollar bill


    I kinda wanna try it. May be harder than it sounds

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    Anyone doing deals on lowers on 5 or 10 packs?
    Black Friday was 2 packs of Aero M4E1 enhanced lowers for $135. What black friday firearms related deals did you jump on?
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