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    Christianity makes men weak, and should not be encouraged...

    In its modern form.

    Lets look at the facts: the majority of Christian men are supplicating, beta men who are driven by their wives in marriages that are one sided, in a religion that currently panders to the interests of women and downtrodden. In its modern conception, it does not encourage manly endeavors, principles, or ideas. The entire focus of the religion of Christ has become nothing more that Metaphysical Utilitarianism. It has lost the harsh, radical and masculine elements and been replaced with a soft forgiving weak and supplicating religion that doesn't stand for anything but "world peace" and "forgiveness".

    But Suqat, not every man... By their fruits you shall know them. In the modern world, Christianity makes men weak and blinds them to it. Popular lyrics for Christian songs go "Love Jesus" "come into my heart" like that isn't feminine.
    But Squat, it just depends on the church... Maybe, but the tolerance of this modern masculine weakness means it does not care about men being strong, just about the meek and humble.
    But Squat, it is the last stand of morality... Strong men in a patriarchal society enforced morality and honor for thousands of years without it, so I think it can do without.
    But Squat, we can turn it around... For our children perhaps, but who plans to give their lives up for their children? Maybe a few are willing, but most are not.
    But Squat, things are A OK without religion, good for us... No, society is currently fuked beyond belief, and it is only going to get worse. Everyone is burring their heads in the sand, but the West is having multiple issues that is paralyzing it and will ultimately end its life. There needs to be some replacement.

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    EDIT: Posted later, but I guess I wasn't clear with what I was saying, so I will use a little less rambling and clearly lay out what I am thinking.

    Christianity, as a religion, is shaped by the culture more than the doctrine. This can be seen by the manifestations, writings, traditions, and ideas it propagates and practices. I don't think this is controversial, but the modern manifestation of Christianity, the MAINSTREAM practice and idea of it, is something akin to a universal, theistic utilitarianism. In pockets and by minorities of people, you can see the original practice of the religion, but it is culturally driven.

    A really simple dichotomy can be seen in how churches approach Christ; many make him weaker and feminine, when this was never the case from a pure reading of the text. They PROJECT their cultural idea, or personal idea, of Christ to what we know of him.

    A second example can be seen in the conversions of the Germanic peoples, where their world-affirming conservative masculine mindset overruled the socialist world denying feminine vision of the first Christians of Rome. This distinction is small, but there is a difference in how Christianity was approached, and it entirely has to do with the people's view of life, circumstances, and culture.

    In many modern churches, you see a lack of masculine men. This is an undisputed fact. The reason for it is simple: the culture of these churches do not respect them, the women do not, the church hierarchy doesn't (Regardless of denomination, Catholic, Lutheran, etc.). The men that are left conform to this culture and attempt to become the "ideal" of this socialist world denying feminine worldview. This seems to make men weaker than they need to be. Men are really having a bad time in society, and we need strong, mature, stable men.

    What I say needs to happen is a revision of the churches. We need a more muscular Christianity, a masculine Christianity. This must be done if Christian men want to be respected and conserve anything. Where we stand now, is awful, I don't think anyone here denies it. There are obviously some masculine men in Churches, but they are outnumbered.
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    I would argue that if you look at the average christian male, and the average atheist male. That the christians would be more masculine.
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    I would argue that if you look at the average christian male, and the average atheist male. That the christians would be more masculine.
    Based on what? Feelings?
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    Originally Posted by Cchrisrun View Post
    I would argue that if you look at the average christian male, and the average atheist male. That the christians would be more masculine.
    This. Neckbeard redditors praying to the Flying Spaghetti Monster and using donor sperm to have a child with their non-binary partner are completely devoid of any/all masculinity. Masculinity is actually “toxic” for these people.

    Islam is much more oppressive and violent than Christianity OP. Perhaps that is preferable for you?
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    OP, what Bible versus make men weak?
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    Just wondering because his/her post is so low-IQ, I couldn't get past the first two brain-dead, incoherent sentences.

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    All these Conservatives here who are Christian are so glaring examples of cognitive dissonance, Jesus values were revolved around helping those in need and yet you Conservatards fight against it.
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    Originally Posted by Suqat View Post
    It has lost the harsh, radical and masculine elements and been replaced with a soft forgiving weak and supplicating religion that doesn't stand for anything but "world peace" and "forgiveness".
    huh? when was it ever like islam?

    are we still talking about turn the other cheek, give to Caesar what is Caesar's? Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God? And a harvest of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace? Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you? If you love those who love you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them? Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow? When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. Leave them for the poor and for the foreigner residing among you. I am the lord your God?

    Its like those people who preach prosperity when Jesus said it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.
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    Based on what? Feelings?
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    Originally Posted by semitope View Post
    huh? when was it ever like islam?
    Christians should go back to following the book of Leviticus.
    It's good stuff.
    You should check it out before you open your mouth.

    I don't even go to church and I know this stuff.
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    nihilism makes you weak
    Dealing in absolutes makes youth weak?
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    Christians should go back to following the book of Leviticus.
    It's good stuff.
    You should check it out before you open your mouth.

    I don't even go to church and I know this stuff.
    where in Leviticus did jesus or his teachings appear?
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    Having hordes of human beings believe something that isn't true is a weakness in itself. It's fairly pathetic to argue who is stronger among christian and atheist men. There's honestly nothing mentally strong with automatically adopting the religious belief system of the family, culture or country you were born into and accepting it as ultimate truth.

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    Atheist spotted.
    Elderly man who believes in fairytales spotted.

    Throughout human existence man has believed in many gods. Do you know how ignorant and arrogant it is to believe that your belief happens to be right?

    Isn’t religion just a crutch for the weak?
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    Having hordes of human beings believe something that isn't true is a weakness in itself. It's fairly pathetic to argue who is stronger among christian and atheist men. There's honestly nothing mentally strong with automatically adopting the religious belief system of the family, culture or country you were born into and accepting it as ultimate truth.

    Doing that is easy, finding out the truth is difficult.
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    Having hordes of human beings believe something that isn't true is a weakness in itself. It's fairly pathetic to argue who is stronger among christian and atheist men. There's honestly nothing mentally strong with automatically adopting the religious belief system of the family, culture or country you were born into and accepting it as ultimate truth.

    Doing that is easy, finding out the truth is difficult.

    Actually religious and spiritual beliefs tend to make people happier and healthier which makes them stronger than they would be otherwise.
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    Having hordes of human beings believe something that isn't true is a weakness in itself. It's fairly pathetic to argue who is stronger among christian and atheist men. There's honestly nothing mentally strong with automatically adopting the religious belief system of the family, culture or country you were born into and accepting it as ultimate truth.

    Doing that is easy, finding out the truth is difficult.
    Stating an absolute is weak. Just about everything you write is weak.
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    Originally Posted by jtaylor2010 View Post
    Actually religious and spiritual beliefs tend to make people happier and healthier which makes them stronger than they would be otherwise.
    I agree to an extent, but you could say the same for people in cults. It doesn't mean it's the truth. Let's have a look at Islam. Sure their religious and spiritual beliefs tend to make people happier and healthier, but it also calls to cut off the head of anyone who leaves the religion.

    The little Islam child is born into the environment, adopts it, and proclaims it as truth.

    You Christians sound just as pathetic.
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    I agree to an extent, but you could say the same for people in cults. It doesn't mean it's the truth. Let's have a look at Islam. Sure their religious and spiritual beliefs tend to make people happier and healthier, but it also calls to cut off the head of anyone who leaves the religion.

    The little Islam child is born into the environment, adopts it, and proclaims it as truth.

    You Christians sound just as pathetic.

    You agree with me then say I sound pathetic. Also, everyone believe things that aren’t true. Even if you don’t believe any religion, it’s still safe to say that believing untrue things ungodly atheists are pumping into society is much worse for our culture than going to church and trying to maintain a stable community.
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    Elderly man who believes in fairytales spotted.

    Throughout human existence man has believed in many gods. Do you know how ignorant and arrogant it is to believe that your belief happens to be right?

    Isn’t religion just a crutch for the weak?
    the same goes for believing atheism happens to be right

    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    Having hordes of human beings believe something that isn't true is a weakness in itself. It's fairly pathetic to argue who is stronger among christian and atheist men. There's honestly nothing mentally strong with automatically adopting the religious belief system of the family, culture or country you were born into and accepting it as ultimate truth.

    Doing that is easy, finding out the truth is difficult.
    and the same goes for atheists or irreligious people who are so thanks to their family influences. I have yet to see an atheist who is truly logical in their beliefs but, assuming they exist, each group has those who have simply accepted things as true and those who actually thought hard about it.
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