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    Coffee lovers and other things...

    Changing things up to get back on track after a few years.

    Who's had better results doing the simple changes like drinking black coffee and taking natural herbs in a pill or tea form like ashwaghanda to help reduce stress levels?
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    Originally Posted by dancyneptune View Post
    Changing things up to get back on track after a few years.

    Who's had better results doing the simple changes like drinking black coffee and taking natural herbs in a pill or tea form like ashwaghanda to help reduce stress levels?
    Ashwaghanda did nothing for me. I tried multiple different kinds. So I doubt they were all junk supplements.

    Doctor put me on Effexor and it has helped. I know that’s not what you were asking about though.
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    When I'm cutting, I switch from whole milk in my coffee (2 per day) to black coffee, which contributes 320 calories to my deficit. The caffeine is also good for reducing appetite.
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    Originally Posted by dancyneptune View Post
    Changing things up to get back on track after a few years.

    Who's had better results doing the simple changes like drinking black coffee and taking natural herbs in a pill or tea form like ashwaghanda to help reduce stress levels?
    I don't know about less stress levels with black coffee. But I started for a short while putting almond milk based creamer substitutes in my coffee and experienced bloating to my stomach which stressed me out. Went back to drinking it straight black and it's gone. The gym relives my normal daily stress levels.
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    Originally Posted by RapidFail View Post
    When I'm cutting, I switch from whole milk in my coffee (2 per day) to black coffee, which contributes 320 calories to my deficit. The caffeine is also good for reducing appetite.
    Good lord, how much milk do you put into 2 cups of coffee to equal 320 calories?

    I use no-sugar creamer (15 calories/tbsp) - whether bulking or cutting, it tastes good and is low calorie, a cup of coffee is about 20 calories total with it.
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    Originally Posted by sunsean View Post
    Good lord, how much milk do you put into 2 cups of coffee to equal 320 calories?

    I use no-sugar creamer (15 calories/tbsp) - whether bulking or cutting, it tastes good and is low calorie, a cup of coffee is about 20 calories total with it.
    Some folks like their coffee light and sweeeeeet!
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    Originally Posted by sunsean View Post
    Good lord, how much milk do you put into 2 cups of coffee to equal 320 calories?

    I use no-sugar creamer (15 calories/tbsp) - whether bulking or cutting, it tastes good and is low calorie, a cup of coffee is about 20 calories total with it.
    That was what I was thinking!! If I had my usual daily amount of coffee with that many calories bloody hell I would have nearly 2000 calories in just coffee.

    As for the OP question can't say I have felt anything by drinking coffee certainly doesn't suppress my appetite. I do drink a lot though so my tolerance is very high from the effects of caffeine (aka nothing). For cutting all I did was change to sweeteners (and have stayed with them) as for the milk I will happily eat less instead of not enjoying my coffee as much.
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    Switching to black coffee and diet pop is one of the best and easiest ways to cut calories out of your normal routine. One thing i have realized while cutting is that these kinds of changes that are easy and become habit like never drinking a sugar pop not only have a huge impact but are super easy to adhere too and well worth it. I am really starting to see the appeal of diets that exclude certain foods because while an if it fits your macros approach does work it becomes much easier to fit those macros and naturally make good choices when you just make hard fast rules like no sugar pop and I think applying that thinking to mcdonalds cheeseburgers and alcohol and the like takes a lot less active will power and forms good natural habits.
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    Originally Posted by RapidFail View Post
    When I'm cutting, I switch from whole milk in my coffee (2 per day) to black coffee, which contributes 320 calories to my deficit. The caffeine is also good for reducing appetite.
    Very interesting... I did not know before that caffeine helps to reduce appetite. After all, the truth is, when I want to eat, I drink a cup of black coffee and a hunger passes, but I've never thought that it was interconnected..)
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    Originally Posted by RapidFail View Post
    When I'm cutting, I switch from whole milk in my coffee (2 per day) to black coffee, which contributes 320 calories to my deficit. The caffeine is also good for reducing appetite.
    Very interesting... I did not know before that caffeine helps to reduce appetite. After all, the truth is, when I want to eat, I drink a cup of black coffee and a hunger passes, but I've never thought that it was interconnected
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    Every morning I drink a French press full of coffee, combined with a cup of 2% fairlife milk. I think that's about 24 oz of coffee + 8 oz milk.

    I don't like my hot coffee sweet but I do like sweet iced coffee. I just use Sweet n Low for that. I love SnL in my iced coffee and tea (actually prefer the taste to sugar.)

    I use no-sugar creamer (15 calories/tbsp) - whether bulking or cutting, it tastes good and is low calorie, a cup of coffee is about 20 calories total with it.
    4 tsp of creamer? I would have to be drinking my coffee out of a shot glass for that to be enough
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    Originally Posted by sunsean View Post
    Good lord, how much milk do you put into 2 cups of coffee to equal 320 calories?

    I use no-sugar creamer (15 calories/tbsp) - whether bulking or cutting, it tastes good and is low calorie, a cup of coffee is about 20 calories total with it.
    Sorry, just noticed your reply. I make my coffee with my barista-style coffee machine and go for a double espresso shot and a cup of whole milk, no sugar or sweetener. Black I have the same but swap out the milk for water.
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    Originally Posted by RapidFail View Post
    Sorry, just noticed your reply. I make my coffee with my barista-style coffee machine and go for a double espresso shot and a cup of whole milk, no sugar or sweetener. Black I have the same but swap out the milk for water.
    Gotcha, so it's more like a little coffee with your milk lol. Sounds like an Americano.
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    Originally Posted by sunsean View Post
    Gotcha, so it's more like a little coffee with your milk lol. Sounds like an Americano.
    I think he is drinking a flat white according to my coffee analysis skills.

    https://www.starbucks.com/menu/produ...%2Fflat-whites

    Me just a standard cup of black instant coffee with a small amount of milk with two sweeteners. Either instant powder or from the cafetiere can't be waiting for all that milk foaming stuff takes way too long.

    Coffee flavoured milk basically :-) nice though just too high in calories for a cut.
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    Originally Posted by hardyboysare View Post
    I think he is drinking a flat white according to my coffee analysis skills.

    https://www.starbucks.com/menu/produ...%2Fflat-whites

    Me just a standard cup of black instant coffee with a small amount of milk with two sweeteners. Either instant powder or from the cafetiere can't be waiting for all that milk foaming stuff takes way too long.

    Coffee flavoured milk basically :-) nice though just too high in calories for a cut.
    Agreed, calories are too precious to be drinking a lot of them...just water and coffee for me when cutting. An occasional light beer maybe.

    I can't do straight black but a tbsp or 2 of creamer is all I need.
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    I drink 3 cups of milk per day. It's one of my main protein sources.
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    Yep, black coffee all the way when cutting - no sugar, creamer or sweetener needed.
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    Originally Posted by spradish View Post
    I drink 3 cups of milk per day. It's one of my main protein sources.
    I love milk too...limit myself to 1 cup/day when cutting but when in bulk mode have up to 3 cups/day. It's usually part of my "treat" coupled with a Reece's cup or something like that.
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    Caffeine can increase the body’s levels of cortisol, the “stress hormone”, which can lead to other health consequences ranging from weight gain and moodiness to heart disease and diabetes......
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    Caffeine can increase the body’s levels of cortisol, the “stress hormone”, which can lead to other health consequences ranging from weight gain and moodiness to heart disease and diabetes......
    "Moodiness" is me without my coffee. To OP/Other coffee lovers ITT: If you find yourself "needing" sugar and milk to deal with the taste of coffee, you might want to try better coffee. I suggest using a pour-over system and not buying cheap pre-ground beans.
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    Originally Posted by mavd View Post
    "Moodiness" is me without my coffee. To OP/Other coffee lovers ITT: If you find yourself "needing" sugar and milk to deal with the taste of coffee, you might want to try better coffee. I suggest using a pour-over system and not buying cheap pre-ground beans.
    Yeah...coffee definitely puts me in a BETTER mood
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