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    Originally Posted by 2RDEYE View Post
    the part where geralt can't defeat that nobody guard

    the guy is a super soldier



    the guy can kill pretty much any monster but cant find a way kill this guy wot
    It was pretty clear in the video that Geralt's hands were bound by a chain and that guard was pulling it around in order to beat him.



    Geralt is no John Wick. In the Witcher 3 he even dies after falling from a height of 4ft lol
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    Originally Posted by M0nsterB0y View Post
    Geralt is no John Wick. In the Witcher 3 he even dies after falling from a height of 4ft lol
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    Originally Posted by TokenV View Post
    tnx for the spoiler phaggot
    notsrifsrs but if you havent played the game, yes, the character dies if he falls from a height of about 4ft
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    Originally Posted by M0nsterB0y View Post
    notsrifsrs but if you havent played the game, yes, the character dies if he falls from a height of about 4ft
    yeah I was having a giggle m8
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    show is awesome so far especially since ive only started playing witcher 3 a few months ago and am still actively playing it.

    cant really read the thread cause im in the middle of episode 3 and dont want spoilers. i had no idea yennifer was a hunch back but i assume they will cast a spell or somethign to fix it.

    In witcher 3 i made geralt go after both jennifer and trish and now jennifer is all pissed off.
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    Originally Posted by OLawdQuan View Post
    That’s the biggest problem with the show for me; the huge focus on Yennifer. Geralt has a huge array of magic abilities and skills like his Signs, tracking, alchemy and dozens of potions but in the show he only uses the Aard Sign and the effects of his potions are never once explained. Even when he’s looking for the Sylvan, all he does is go into the field and tiptoe around as if he doesn’t know how to look for tracks. And yet we get an entire episode detailing Chaos magic as if that’s the one thing about this universe that’s new or exciting.

    Ciri should not have even been in the show
    I agree that it could have been more awesome if Geralt used signs more, but Geralt did use Axii once, on Renfri, but since Renfri was immune to magic, it had no effect. And if I'm not mistaken, it was Yrden that he used on the doors in order to trap the Striga inside it's chambers.
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    I know I said I didnt like the show but...

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    Originally Posted by M0nsterB0y View Post
    It was pretty clear in the video that Geralt's hands were bound by a chain and that guard was pulling it around in order to beat him.

    [img]https://i.imgur.com/Cn4v2Wq.jpg[img]

    Geralt is no John Wick. In the Witcher 3 he even dies after falling from a height of 4ft lol
    witchers are pretty much super soldiers. they have super strength, super reflexes, and super dense bones. increased regenerating factor. they can't be compared to a normal human. there's a reason why their trials are super risky. not only that they have spells, he only needs one hand to use them. and he does have actual combat training, aside from years of experience fighting monsters, witcher schools they are obviously taught combat and trained extensively so they can defeat monsters.

    https://witcher.fandom.com/wiki/Witcher

    hands bound and chained by a NORMAL regular human being, a guard. that is literally nothing to him. he fights monsters for a living, men are nothing to him. he most definitely weighs more than the guard as well.

    he's no john wick he's much much better. john wick is not even a comparison lmao. he's almost like wolverine except without claws.
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    I wasn't under the impression that Geralt was trying to fight that guard. Seemed to be having fun with him/in a self destructive mood after getting Yennifer'd.
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    Originally Posted by 2RDEYE View Post
    witchers are pretty much super soldiers. they have super strength, super reflexes, and super dense bones. increased regenerating factor. they can't be compared to a normal human. there's a reason why their trials are super risky. not only that they have spells, he only needs one hand to use them. and he does have actual combat training, aside from years of experience fighting monsters, witcher schools they are obviously taught combat and trained extensively so they can defeat monsters.

    https://witcher.fandom.com/wiki/Witcher

    hands bound and chained by a NORMAL regular human being, a guard. that is literally nothing to him. he fights monsters for a living, men are nothing to him. he most definitely weighs more than the guard as well.

    he's no john wick he's much much better. john wick is not even a comparison lmao. he's almost like wolverine except without claws.
    is it possible maybe that he did not retaliate to keep up appearances? as is already seen in episode 1, his refusal to comply with public opinion did not gain him any friends, so maybe he was trying another method.

    as far as the signs, those are barely used in the show* so it'd be weird if he started blasting the guy with magic left and right. Also, he's been shown to have a distaste for killing humans if he can avoid it, so i'm sure that came into play as well.
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    reading comprehension not even once, no one with half a brain would've thought that I said Cavill is trash in that sentence because I left out a comma

    now go and trade some reps with someone instead of acting smart on the fuking misc
    You got awfully mad over a minor grammatical correction, especially since I didn't even call you a retard or a phaggot. Who hurt you?
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    Originally Posted by KingSWRV View Post
    I watched 1st episode, time skipped all the interracial, then watched the final Yen transformation which was a let down. the show is complete and utter unwatchable trash.

    sorry but im not a cuck and cant look past all the SJW garbage.

    besides that the Geralt side quest scenes are unwatchable. henry comes across like he is doing a theater play mixed with a supporting cast of people who would be in a SJW cable TV show doing generic acting.

    the scenes are mostly unwatchable and trite. horrific writing. Henry isn't even that swole its all angles and flexing. his neck isn't long enough though it is thick. even having girls kitties out in a scene is ruined by generic acting. even the action is skippable because the cuts aren't satisfying.

    Gerald keeps getting caught and not killed too often ruining his mystique. dandelion is super corny and wack, the writing is boring.

    SJW trash and anyone who seriously watched it all and/or liked it is a cuck.

    100% agree with you lol thats how i felt..

    4/10 show

    also when he was making his 3rd wish they didnt make it obvious what the wish was since hes focusing on her stomach ?
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    Originally Posted by 2RDEYE View Post
    witchers are pretty much super soldiers. they have super strength, super reflexes, and super dense bones. increased regenerating factor. they can't be compared to a normal human. there's a reason why their trials are super risky. not only that they have spells, he only needs one hand to use them. and he does have actual combat training, aside from years of experience fighting monsters, witcher schools they are obviously taught combat and trained extensively so they can defeat monsters.

    https://witcher.fandom.com/wiki/Witcher

    hands bound and chained by a NORMAL regular human being, a guard. that is literally nothing to him. he fights monsters for a living, men are nothing to him. he most definitely weighs more than the guard as well.

    he's no john wick he's much much better. john wick is not even a comparison lmao. he's almost like wolverine except without claws.
    i played all 3 games. Witchers aren't invincible as you make them seem to be. if they are, then it would make for a very boring game and tv show. try fighting the guards in cities just to see what I mean.

    his hands were bound and just woke up from a mage's spell. picking that part as a bad scene in the show is just nitpicking imo.
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    Originally Posted by CaliSuperSport View Post
    Cavill is great. Geralt barely emotes anyways and the way Cavill attacked that fight scene was perfect. The voice is also pretty damn bang on.

    Only annoying thing was seeing him on his back for half the fight vs the Striga



    Real talk, the biggest issue with Triss and Yen's casting can be attributed to them not being white. I wouldn't choose white people to portray established ethnic characters and I don't prefer this reverse situation either. But of course we know the former would almost never happen... because diversity is always "less white people.

    You could argue that the characters should match the video game characters anyways, as the games are wildly more popular than the novels.

    And the girl who plays Ciri may be the right race but she doesn't look like Ciri (eyes too far apart, srs).
    I agree on that end (for disclosure, I'm not a Slav myself), as I find the treatment rather disrespectful to the culture that defines The Witcher and distinguishes it from your typical Western fantasy, while the reverse scenario would of course be a massive controversy (and also something that should not be done, to be clear).

    People need to grow up and accept that not everything needs to, nor is able to directly represent everyone - particularly Western sensibilities - as that only waters down creativity and is not only hypocritical, but inherently opposes any conceit of open-mindedness. They would quickly discover that, more often than not, we will connect to different experiences and cultures while learning something new, all without needing a direct mirror to ourselves in order to appreciate such things. It's this modern line of thinking steeped in ignorance and irony as to how its perpetrators act as though all of Europe shares an identical culture and history, which is funnily enough the implication when they complain about a "lack of diversity," implying that all of Africa, Asia, or Latin American countries relate to one culture each.

    Tangent aside, I think they did a good enough job not allowing Western perceptions of race based entirely upon skin color and what not to interfere too much with the topics of prejudice tackled in The Witcher's world, reflecting on how Eastern European prejudice was between all "white people," but predicated upon different aspects than what we see in the United States. That doesn't excuse it or means they couldn't do better, but season 2 will be a huge test seeing as to how they choose to continue.

    On the other hand, it could make certain distinctions like elves far less clear, relegating an entire people who have been both the discriminated and the discriminators themselves into basically, "regular people with pointy ears." It's still pretty early to tell with (I think) only three elves, but Filvadandnrel certainly looks like an elf (although I honestly would never have picked him out as an elven king), and the girl he was with, Toruviel, was actually cast very well if you go off the art from the Gwent game (also from CDPR):

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    Different hairstyle and no face makeup (makes sense given their condition), but even the hair is the right color, which kind of goes back to your point on the games as a reference, raising suspicion over those other totally-not-political choices.

    I only bring up the question of the elves future because of my next point, with show-Dryads, who are just regular women who happen to live in the forest and wear forest-y armor. Maybe they're slightly more green, although some of that seemed like the filter more than makeup. Nevertheless, by using that logic, then I'm part Dryad having an olive complexion (i.e., let's not sugar coat it: green/yellow). With that aesthetic, things are only going to get more confusing once they introduce the Scoia'tael elves (who I thought the Dryads were when they first appeared, had it not been for their ears), especially when the first result image searching, "the witcher netflix elves" and similar variants gives you dryads instead of actual elves.

    With the dwarves, at least they hired actors with dwarfism who knew how to act the part, while knowing to just leave it at that. Had they tried to go anywhere near a Tyrion Lannister direction, they would have 120% fukked it up considering how dwarves are an actual people in The Witcher.

    They definitely introduced some intrinsic oddities now that they've already introduced Zerrikanians (Arabian and/or African counterparts) since it is noted for being far more isolated from the rest of the Northern and Southern Kingdoms, which I guess leaves us with one of those, "where are you from? No, where are you really from?" bits. And that kind of is a real thing, I mean, I'm white but stand out amongst most other white people where I live almost like Geralt does.

    Now in the show's defense, I can see why the made sure to mix up the casting (excluding the mains) because can you imagine the sh*t-storm if the only black people in the show were Tea and Vea? People are f*cking morons who outright search for the pettiest details to hyper-analyze, distort, and bitch about.

    So that said, I am relieved that they treat skin color amongst humans/elves/dryads as nothing more than an individual trait when in today's social justice woke era, they could have gone full retard and made one side all [x] against the other side who is all [y], so, "don't you see how the persecution of the dryads is totally like blah blah blah?"

    I hate to say it, and going back to my worries, is that if they had taken that kind of approach, the show probably would have been reviewed better by critics, while fans would have rightly been pissed. Fortunately, I don't think that Netflix or the showrunners will take a turn down the full retard path next season lest a few dozen critics cancel Netflix (they won't) since there are far more Witcher fans than miserable kunts.


    Regarding Ciri, where at least they gave Yennifer purple eyes that really stand out and help accentuate her own elven blood, the actress playing Ciri is probably best for Ciri at her youngest, but that's about it because she looks extremely young even for her age, particularly because her eyes are so big. Older Ciri is going to be a hard sell when she still looks like she's pouting instead of staring daggers or trying to look fierce since the actress simply has one of those types of faces.

    I dunno - did they just want to avoid getting an actress who looked hotter than Yenn to impress upon Ciri being Geralt's adopted daughter? Because they sure as hell f*cked up on Triss if that was the case, it hurts that they didn't swap her out for the actress who played Renfi.


    Going back to your point on the games' representations taking precedence, you speak the truth in that they are the overwhelming source of familiarity amongst the series' fans. Hell, I think Henry Cavill's dedication to the role and passion for the games is enough to support their importance as a reference. Most people who have heard of The Witcher think about the games, most artists and cosplayers are inspired by the games, and the fact that there is enough resemblance between the games' depictions and those by artists who are just doing their own interpretations from the books supports that as well.

    When Henry Cavill f*cking nails the role, the discrepancies only stand out further - almost like an uncanny valley effect for reality clashing with your previously established perceptions. The opposite holds true, after all, where video games based on movies pretty much always look so off that if it weren't for the fact most of them already have sh*te gameplay, it would be a major distraction.
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    Alright, I finally finished the season, and as much as I enjoyed the show, I cannot help but see how they failed so spectacularly to capitalize on key points within the narrative for downright stupid and egotistical reasons.

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    Good review.

    - I made the exact same mistake with Calanthe being Ciri's mum, and I also didn't buy her fighting against a tough chicken wing, let alone in the front lines. Another pet peeve of mine is when people greive mid-battle while all of this chaotic fighting is going on around them; why is nobody taking a second to just stab the bloody leader of the enemy army who's just weeping in the middle of the battle?

    - He's on the mark with the casting, and that's something GOT did better even in its 8th season for gods sake. "Organic" is precisely what was lacking in The Witcher's diversity, as it makes the entire world feel more generic instead of giving you the sense that these different regions had unique cultures and makeups, again, something that GOT pulled off well. You could almost say that The Witcher higher ups failed geography class...

    *Related thought - For all of the proclaimed care about "diversity," Hollywood doesn't help itself in cases like this when everyone in fantasy or medieval times is English, and only English; never any actors with Hispanic, Germanic, French, ect. accents that are subtleties to help differentiate parts of the world rather than make it apparent they only hired English actors. It relates a bit to how Critical Drinker said the world mashed together because no matter where we go each episode, everyone has the same accents and same conveniently diverse makeups.

    - When you lay it all out, Ciri really is just an Egg MacGuffin through much of the season. I think the actress was good, but they spent too much time meandering with her story that didn't really go anywhere given the amount of attention it received.
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    Originally Posted by MrAWatts View Post
    Imagine being this fukkin dull and braindead.
    Imagine being talked down to by someone who is complete f*cking loser

    I've read all the books, I know more than you. shut the f*ck up.

    The show got a lot better as it went on, but it needs improvements. they need to be way more linear on the story
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    I personally enjoyed the series. I've had the witcher III for about 4-5 years (came with my xbox) and never really got into it (spent about 3-4 hours total playing prior to the series), but since the series i've been able to enjoy the game
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    Imagine being talked down to by someone who is complete f*cking loser

    I've read all the books, I know more than you. shut the f*ck up.

    The show got a lot better as it went on, but it needs improvements. they need to be way more linear on the story
    Would you say it aligns closer with the books or the game? I've only played the first game. I'm on episode 5 and the series is kinda "meh." I mean, I like the show becasue i'm a sucker for generic fantasy elements, but so far no one has been particularly likeable in the series. Not to mention its trying too hard to be GoT and doesn't know how to take itself serious and just comes off as campy at times. I don't know if they're ever actually in any serious danger because theres so much pointless quipping and banter.
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    I liked it over all but wish they didnt skip around so much. Seems like the show is taking place before witcher 3 started, which is the only game I played but I know the background. If I hadnt already played one of the games, I would have no idea wtf is going on because they keep going back and forth and some characters they are showing things years earlier while in the same episode they are showing current events. Atleast put a caption or something when introducing the scene with a time and date or something.
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    I loved this season, and fell in love with the characters.

    I cant wait for next season.

    I really liked the non linear story telling.
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    Originally Posted by nkiritsis13 View Post
    od review.

    - I made the exact same mistake with Calanthe being Ciri's mum, and I also didn't buy her fighting against a tough chicken wing, let alone in the front lines. Another pet peeve of mine is when people greive mid-battle while all of this chaotic fighting is going on around them; why is nobody taking a second to just stab the bloody leader of the enemy army who's just weeping in the middle of the battle?
    If I remember right, the queen had a circle of guards around her.
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    Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    Would you say it aligns closer with the books or the game? I've only played the first game. I'm on episode 5 and the series is kinda "meh." I mean, I like the show becasue i'm a sucker for generic fantasy elements, but so far no one has been particularly likeable in the series. Not to mention its trying too hard to be GoT and doesn't know how to take itself serious and just comes off as campy at times. I don't know if they're ever actually in any serious danger because theres so much pointless quipping and banter.
    the show takes place during the books, that's the material it's following. The biggest problem is that the episodes are running two book's storylines at once. Most of the content is copying and pasting what is written in the books and putting it on screen. They take some liberties with other things, like how Yennefer came to be a sorceress. The books dont have much on her origins, she only talks briefly about her hunched back and rekt face in the first book. I definitely dont remember an elf accompanying Ciri to Brokilon.
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    Originally Posted by M0nsterB0y View Post
    Back read the first few pages and lol at the GOT die hard fans. Witcher season 1 > GOT season 1 clearly. GOT really only started to become popular around the world from season 3, but season 1 was pretty meh and the sword fight scenes were like the fight scenes from the old star wars movies. Slow and dumbed down. CGI from GOT season 1 was also meh, not to mention the acting (the actors improved throughout the the show's run though). .
    Exactly.

    I think some people are expecting way too much from a fantasy show first season. The budget can only grow with popularity. GOT wasn't considered 'top tier TV' until a few seasons, like you rightfully say.

    It's clear that they didn't have the budget of the later seasons of GOT, but like you said it's comparable to the first season of GOT where it's obvious that the budget big.

    Also, I think (and I had to fight the urge) that some people want a GOT clone, whereas the Witcher (I quickly realized after a couple of episodes) is based around a few core characters. It's not intended to be a political, philosophical, and character epic like GOT was, it's more just a character focused story... Nothing wrong with that IMO.
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    Diversity killed the immersion for me and immersion is pretty much the number one thing a fantasy show needs to pull off

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    Originally Posted by CaliSuperSport View Post
    Real talk, the biggest issue with Triss and Yen's casting can be attributed to them not being white. I wouldn't choose white people to portray established ethnic characters and I don't prefer this reverse situation either. But of course we know the former would almost never happen... because diversity is always "less white people.
    Spending too much time on 4chan brah? ;-p

    Or maybe just Confirmation bias.

    There are plenty of examples of white people playing non-white characters (this isn't all instances, btw)...

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    I'm several episodes into this show and I truly do not get it.

    I am not familiar with the original stories or the games, and I'm sure they're great. I'm just not seeing why people are nutting all over themselves comparing this to GOT and LoTR. It's extremely action-heavy and the script has improved but is still stilted and corny. It's much closer to Hercules and Xena than Game of Thrones. Cavill is a solid actor and there are decent teddies and it's watchable, but still.
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    As someone who hasn't played games or read the books I enjoyed it, is definitely worth a watch. Just be aware of the multiple timelines going into it and it'll make alot more sense. Still felt like it was aimed at someone who already had a lot more knowledge of the pre-existing story/universe though. Season 2 hopefully they'll clean things up abit for someone unfamiliar with the books or games.
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    As someone who hasn't played games or read the books I enjoyed it, is definitely worth a watch. Just be aware of the multiple timelines going into it and it'll make alot more sense. Still felt like it was aimed at someone who already had a lot more knowledge of the pre-existing story/universe though.
    I have no knowledge of the books or games, but I followed the story fine.

    I assumed that a lot of the mysteries and backstories will be fleshed out in later season (I like that style of story telling, anyway).

    I honestly am surprised, that so many people seem to have a hard time following the non-linear story telling.
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    I'm several episodes into this show and I truly do not get it.

    I am not familiar with the original stories or the games, and I'm sure they're great. I'm just not seeing why people are nutting all over themselves comparing this to GOT and LoTR. It's extremely action-heavy and the script has improved but is still stilted and corny. It's much closer to Hercules and Xena than Game of Thrones. Cavill is a solid actor and there are decent teddies and it's watchable, but still.
    I honestly think that's part of it's charm, and I think that's a great description. It seems like a bit more serious version of Hercules and Xena, those shows are probably the better comparison that GOT. (I think people only compare them, because they are both fantasy genre TV shows... Despite the show clearly not trying to be a GOT clone).

    From what I've heard of the book, the author actually intended the story to be self-aware regarding tropes and themes within the fantasy genre. Meaning - parts are intentionally self-mocking and corny. Though there are serious themes, about identity and morality (e.g. how quick humans are to try to kill any being that doesn't look like them, despite them potentially or actually being sapient).

    There is clearly more humour in The Witcher compared to GOT.
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