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    Originally Posted by keyboardworkout View Post
    Hard impacts to the chest at the wrong time can stop the heart. Had a local kid get hit in the chest with a baseball and his heart stopped and he died.
    This is a true and very tragic phenomenon.
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    I bench alone 98%+ of the time - safeties every time, never make an exception or excuse.

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    Originally Posted by bustasinclair View Post
    It's really funny now that I have two pec tears, I CANNOT watch people bench press. Whenever I walk by someone on the bench, I have to look away. It's pretty strange and weird to me as I know it's all psychological, but I just can't watch. That said, I loaded the video you posted and pressed play. Before the vid started, I closed it abruptly. I just couldn't watch. Later, I had a coworker load it on their computer and I watched from a distance. Pathetic, I know.

    It's amazing how much my attitude toward lifting has changed so dramatically since my return to the iron in 2008. Some would consider me a pussy, but hey, we all have our own way of dealing with things. In my opinion, life is way too short to take silly, ego driven risks.
    I did chest today. Machine press, Incline Smith, flat DB, DB Pullover, Incline Flyes, CG incline pushups. All at least 12 reps. No one considered me a pussy, the swole felt like it was gonna split my skin.
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    Originally Posted by BajaRun View Post
    I would like to see the autopsy.
    I'll skip that, thanks.
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    Originally Posted by keyboardworkout View Post
    Hard impacts to the chest at the wrong time can stop the heart. Had a local kid get hit in the chest with a baseball and his heart stopped and he died.

    Quick response with a defibrillator likely would have saved him.
    Most businesses have those nowadays, don't they? Had there been other people around it could have been quickly fetched, and I think odds are he would have been saved.
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    In all my years in the gym I have never once used a suicide grip. Can someone please aware me on what I'm missing out on and what's so special about it?

    Every bench accident I see is using this grip.

    Christ if you're unsure and don't have a spotter use safeties or do it on the hammer strength plate load...you know so you don't die.
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    Originally Posted by kimm4 View Post
    In all my years in the gym I have never once used a suicide grip. Can someone please aware me on what I'm missing out on and what's so special about it?

    Every bench accident I see is using this grip.

    Christ if you're unsure and don't have a spotter use safeties or do it on the hammer strength plate load...you know so you don't die.
    You don’t use your forearms as much when you use the suicide grip . In theory it’s supposed to isolate your chest better . At least that's what I was told back in 86 .

    Strange thing is, I’ve watched several videos where they’re saying it slipped during a suicide grip, but they had their thumbs around it when I watched .
    I think suicide is when your thumbs are pointed the same direction as fingers ,and the bars resting on your palm.

    I’ve never had so much as a close call suicide gripping over decades.
    Mind you , I’m only repping 230 . If I had better genetics and could bench 405, maybe I’d grab the bar .
    But I still suicide gripped 315 back in the day . Never got it back up though
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    Originally Posted by bustasinclair View Post
    It's really funny now that I have two pec tears, I CANNOT watch people bench press. Whenever I walk by someone on the bench, I have to look away. It's pretty strange and weird to me as I know it's all psychological, but I just can't watch. That said, I loaded the video you posted and pressed play. Before the vid started, I closed it abruptly. I just couldn't watch. Later, I had a coworker load it on their computer and I watched from a distance. Pathetic, I know.

    It's amazing how much my attitude toward lifting has changed so dramatically since my return to the iron in 2008. Some would consider me a pussy, but hey, we all have our own way of dealing with things. In my opinion, life is way too short to take silly, ego driven risks.
    I wouldn't consider you a pussy; I'd consider you experienced. I've had 6 weight/sports related surgeries. For me to tear a pec or bicep now would make me feel like a complete idiot. Like WTF am I doing; I know better!!! That said, I still train hard, and my guess is you do too. It's just not where I make my bread, and I have people depending on me to be doing other things than undergoing a weight training caused surgery.

    I've typed it here before, but it's true. If the young me saw the current me training, he'd think, 'what a pussy.' If the current me saw the young me training, I'd think, 'what an idiot!'
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    https://nypost.com/video/drunk-gym-r...and-collapses/

    Turns out he was ok, the death lie was just clickbait by that site

    The real lesson here is not to benchpress while drunk
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    Originally Posted by Halfway View Post
    https://nypost.com/video/drunk-gym-r...and-collapses/

    Turns out he was ok, the death lie was just clickbait by that site

    The real lesson here is not to benchpress while drunk
    OH gaawd, I showed it to everyone at work and told them he died. I guess it's better he didn't but still..
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    I think the guy should be commended for his dedication, it's not everyone that can take time out of their busy drinking schedule to get in a chest workout !
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    I think the guy should be commended for his dedication, it's not everyone that can take time out of their busy drinking schedule to get in a chest workout !
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    Originally Posted by Halfway View Post
    https://nypost.com/video/drunk-gym-r...and-collapses/

    Turns out he was ok, the death lie was just clickbait by that site

    The real lesson here is not to benchpress while drunk
    ha! I was going to say there was no way he died with that light of weight.
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    Originally Posted by Halfway View Post
    https://nypost.com/video/drunk-gym-r...and-collapses/

    Turns out he was ok, the death lie was just clickbait by that site

    The real lesson here is not to benchpress while drunk
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    While it looks like this was a hoax, there are plenty of real instances of people getting killed bench pressing. I dont even want to watch some of the vids that are out there. I remember when I was helping a (newbie) friend set up him home gym. I was encouraging him to bench at home inside a rack since he was alone.

    He was very resistant. I did a quick google search and pulled up numerous articles from newspapers of people dying at home from bench press accidents.

    The fact the guy did not die and was drunk, does not invalidate the underlying message. Be careful.
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    Originally Posted by KeepItMoving View Post
    I wouldn't consider you a pussy; I'd consider you experienced. I've had 6 weight/sports related surgeries. For me to tear a pec or bicep now would make me feel like a complete idiot. Like WTF am I doing; I know better!!! That said, I still train hard, and my guess is you do too. It's just not where I make my bread, and I have people depending on me to be doing other things than undergoing a weight training caused surgery.

    I've typed it here before, but it's true. If the young me saw the current me training, he'd think, 'what a pussy.' If the current me saw the young me training, I'd think, 'what an idiot!'
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    Glad the guy is ok.
    I dislocated a shoulder when I was 20 years old on a flat bench, warm up set, with a spotter. They had to pull the bar off of me. Obviously the warm up set was too heavy but the point being, anyone can drop a weight at any time unexpected. My shoulder was completely out of the socket, without a spotter i would have been in serious trouble since the left arm was useless at that moment. I had lifted the weight many times and had lifted much more. Now like some others flat barbell bench is not a lift I do frequently. I guess better to be called the big P than to be called an idiot.
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    Originally Posted by kimm4 View Post
    In all my years in the gym I have never once used a suicide grip. Can someone please aware me on what I'm missing out on and what's so special about it?

    Every bench accident I see is using this grip.

    Christ if you're unsure and don't have a spotter use safeties or do it on the hammer strength plate load...you know so you don't die.
    To me its "more comfortable" when I'm using lower weight. I didn't even know what it was, I just know my thumbs just kind of naturally go into suicide grip position when I'm warming up with the bar or at 135. I think I've even used it as high as 155 before. My thumbs naturally move back into regular position once it gets above that, because suicide grip at a higher weight doesn't "feel" right to me.

    Originally Posted by Halfway View Post
    https://nypost.com/video/drunk-gym-r...and-collapses/

    Turns out he was ok, the death lie was just clickbait by that site

    The real lesson here is not to benchpress while drunk
    Wow, I'm glad he didn't dedded himself. I had a buddy who was on a huge crash diet and he would come out drinking with us after work. He wouldn't eat dinner, slam a few bud lights and then he'd go do 3-5 miles on the treadmill before bed. It actually worked for him, so I gave it a shot. Of course I didn't have a couple of bud lights, I had like 4 big scooner's of blue moon. I was buzzed and decided to hop on the treadmill for a few miles. I was literally running myself drunker and drunker until finally I just hopped off and wobbled into bed. LOL I never tried that again.
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    Originally Posted by Halfway View Post
    https://nypost.com/video/drunk-gym-r...and-collapses/

    Turns out he was ok, the death lie was just clickbait by that site

    The real lesson here is not to benchpress while drunk
    Got to the thread late, glad to see he was OK.

    Originally Posted by ElrondHubbard View Post
    That's sad to see. Working out by myself at home, I always do and always will bench with safeties. Scenes like this just reinforce that decision.

    He didn't even drop it from full height. He probably could have dropped that thing 100 times without any problems. But then there's always that one circumstance...
    Working out home alone as well, I always have safeties. I am able to set them about an inch or two above my chest, so no real loss in ROM.
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    Wow, I'm glad he didn't dedded himself. I had a buddy who was on a huge crash diet and he would come out drinking with us after work. He wouldn't eat dinner, slam a few bud lights and then he'd go do 3-5 miles on the treadmill before bed. It actually worked for him, so I gave it a shot. Of course I didn't have a couple of bud lights, I had like 4 big scooner's of blue moon. I was buzzed and decided to hop on the treadmill for a few miles. I was literally running myself drunker and drunker until finally I just hopped off and wobbled into bed. LOL I never tried that again.
    There's a guy who was out getting hammered with his buddies in a bar and decided to just change his lifestyle. Walked out of the bar and started running.

    Kept running, ran races and even long endurance ones IIRC. Wrote a book about it. I think he made some money on the book and then died of a genetic condition that exercise or drinking heavy wouldn't have changed at all.
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    There's a fair chance this guy had a heart issue to start with.

    Sudden forceful strikes to the chest can stop the heart, compressing the rib cage enough to compress the heart while it's pumping can cause a ruptured aorta. IDK, I've never seen anyone drop a bar like that on the bench, it doesn't change how I feel about the lift or how I'll do things. There's a chance if he wasn't there along that he may have lived if his heart just stopped.

    Terrible for this guy and his family though.
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    Originally Posted by MCrow View Post
    There's a fair chance this guy had a heart issue to start with.

    Sudden forceful strikes to the chest can stop the heart, compressing the rib cage enough to compress the heart while it's pumping can cause a ruptured aorta. IDK, I've never seen anyone drop a bar like that on the bench, it doesn't change how I feel about the lift or how I'll do things. There's a chance if he wasn't there along that he may have lived if his heart just stopped.

    Terrible for this guy and his family though.
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    Originally Posted by smokinal View Post
    See post#39
    Ahh....missed that one.

    Makes sense. Not saying it couldn't happen but seemed like something that would happen 1 out of 1000 times that happened. Maybe broken ribs but would be incredibly freaky to die from that. Unless got him in the throat or something.
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