If you dont put the effort in, you can't cry about not getting women

[ItsJamesthefin]

Dudes will seriously cry that they can't get girls yet whenever you ask them what they are doing to achieve that their answers are trash. I've tried dating apps and can't get matches. I try to cold approach girls and get rejected everytime. What are your hobbies? Well I like to lift, play video games, and I really like sports. So you go to work and then the gym and magically expect a woman to appear?

You gotta go where the girls are. If you cant cold approach girls in public or at bars then you gotta change it up. Start doing hobbies that attract females. All these forever alone incels seriously don't get that sometimes you have to get out of your comfort zone and go where girls like to go. Why is this rocket science all of the sudden?? I'm at work and just had to rant after seeing post after post about being forever alone.

For your time

[bfdehewdbyywhn]

retard OP

[XterraRob]

Knees weak, palms spaghetti,
I got vomit on my sweater, palms spaghetti
On the surface, he looks calm and ready,
Underneath, it's mom's spaghetti

[wincel]

Only relevant part of your post.

[JStrez]

Can semi-confirm OP. I started going to a yoga class to work on my flexibility and girl gains have been through the roof. I’m one of the few guys and I’m like maybe the only not gay one under 30. Girls ask me all the time while I’m doing it, and I’m just like this is so I don’t hate myself when I get older. If I’m macking on a girl I’ll say “maybe you can show me some moves after class”, this usually works.

[ItsJamesthefin]

retard OP

We had a call didnt have a chance to fix it.

[mobp]

Wrong, if you have a full time job and want to get women, the entirety of your remaining effort has to go into chasing women if you want to get women in today's environment. This is in no way reasonable because that means you can't put in effort into things that really matter like building your career or starting your own business.

[sandman2019]

Wrong, if you have a full time job and want to get women, the entirety of your remaining effort has to go into chasing women if you want to get women in today's environment. This is in no way reasonable because that means you can't put in effort into things that really matter like building your career or starting your own business.

This.


But the other problem is that even finding women who are quality is hard if you have a small social cirlce.
Go to bars, online dating etc?
so what so you can try bang some trashy women. Really is pointless.

I'd much rather a nice gf than banging sloots.

[ItsJamesthefin]

Wrong, if you have a full time job and want to get women, the entirety of your remaining effort has to go into chasing women if you want to get women in today's environment. This is in no way reasonable because that means you can't put in effort into things that really matter like building your career or starting your own business.

You're telling me that guys don't have an hour a week to go out do a meet up, cooking class, dance class, rock climb ect.?? If they have time to complain on the misc the they have time to do something social. People have days off, theres always a way.

[ItsJamesthefin]

This.


But the other problem is that even finding women who are quality is hard if you have a small social cirlce.
Go to bars, online dating etc?
so what so you can try bang some trashy women. Really is pointless.

I'd much rather a nice gf than banging sloots.

I absolutely agree with this. My social circle isnt that large but I'm doing other hobbies that are growing that circle. No one said it's easy, but complaining about it whenever you dont put the effort into it is pointless.

[johnnyboi123]

i think there's more to it than just "not trying hard enough". It shouldn't be "hard" to get women, at least women that are your looks match. It shouldn't feel like rocket science with all the ****ing games you have to play. **** it, idc anymore.

[irmocool]

never chase these ho's . If they are not begging for your dong , then you need to keep working on yourself, if that means not gettingt laid for 4 years,then it means not getting laid for 4 years. Sadly men modern men are so desparate for bacterial infected snatched, and value themselves so little lmao.

[Basiliskboy]

HNNG SO PLUMP AND SOFT

70+ days into never fapping again and that gif just made me scream in agony op.



I totally agree I've been there. Expecting to meet my next gf or some nypho sloot in aisle 7 of whole foods. I was expecting with the small amount of interactions i had with women that a significant percentile would just be all over me when thats really like a 1 in 100 occurrence with maybe 60% being on the fence if you play your cards right.

My biggest problem is my small town. Theres a few things to do here but everyone knows everything is in the city 45 mins away. we literally only have 2 bars. Thats why mostly people who live here have given up on having a life and just rot here raising a family.

An hour a week to me is really more like 3 hours out of my day with 8hrs already going to work that just really impossible unless im gonna sacrifice a night of sleep to do some yoga with strange white women.
I have to try though. Im starting small with the little bit of hobbies available in my small town.

also have 0 social circle btw

Can semi-confirm OP. I started going to a yoga class to work on my flexibility and girl gains have been through the roof. I’m one of the few guys and I’m like maybe the only not gay one under 30. Girls ask me all the time while I’m doing it, and I’m just like this is so I don’t hate myself when I get older. If I’m macking on a girl I’ll say “maybe you can show me some moves after class”, this usually works.

Lol theres no way you got away with that line

[rahfulz]

Just call out eod directly next time OP

[mobp]

You're telling me that guys don't have an hour a week to go out do a meet up, cooking class, dance class, rock climb ect.?? If they have time to complain on the misc the they have time to do something social. People have days off, theres always a way.

Sorry but 1 hour is such complete and total bull****. It's the same thing when people try to say 30 minutes 3x a week is all you need to be fit, just no.

What I can personally tell you for the gym example is it's 3 x (2 hours + 30 mins travel) + 1 hour extra laundry + 2 hours extra showers + 7 x 1 hour extra eating = 17.5 hours a week.

For the women example, I have a girlfriend right now and I spend around 20 hours a week with her. When I was looking for a girlfriend, I spent a similar amount of time on girls per week for about 3 months before I started dating my girlfriend.

[Basiliskboy]

Sorry but 1 hour is such complete and total bull****. It's the same thing when people try to say 30 minutes 3x a week is all you need to be fit, just no.

What I can personally tell you for the gym example is it's 3 x (2 hours + 30 mins travel) + 1 hour extra laundry + 2 hours extra showers + 7 x 1 hour extra eating = 17.5 hours a week.

For the women example, I have a girlfriend right now and I spend around 20 hours a week with her. When I was looking for a girlfriend, I spent a similar amount of time on girls per week for about 3 months before I started dating my girlfriend.

Socializing as an adult is the hardest **** known to man unless youre just to have life on easy mode. Most of us are fcked when it comes to making money to survive, working on a side hustle to free up time later down the road, and jusr basic adult chit like eating, getting good sleep so you dont look like a goblin, laundry, gym etc..

Those 8 years of high school and college are seriously some of the most pivotal years of your life

[GravityLee]

Ive never met a guy that sucked with women that hustled srs.

[Madvillainy]

has anyone said that in the thousand pages of the whiny bitch thread

[Omnivium]

Both sides of it are true

-modern dating is fukked up due to dating apps, hookup culture, decline in values etc
-a large percentage of men just sit in their bedroom making excuses instead of trying

So wut do? Well you either try anyway, or you lay down and rot. But don't choose to rot and also make excuses. That's a bitch move. If you choose to rot instead of try, that's 100% your fault.

[eod8989]

You arent getting a decent looking girl these days just by putting in more effort. Girls have tons of options now days and will never settle for some random guy unless you have connections, decent social skills and are her best looking option.

If you have to chase you've already lost. I 100% know this from irl experiences

An incel could maybe get a 5 but getting anything higher is just not going to be easy in today's dating market

[Briangumble]

What hobbies attract females?

[eod8989]

Both sides of it are true

-modern dating is fukked up due to dating apps, hookup culture, decline in values etc
-a large percentage of men just sit in their bedroom making excuses instead of trying

So wut do? Well you either try anyway, or you lay down and rot. But don't choose to rot and also make excuses. That's a bitch move. If you choose to rot instead of try, that's 100% your fault.

The problem is these girls dont show interest irl anymore because they have dating apps and attention on social media. Idk why people keep acting like its still 2004 and guys can just walk up to girls and have a date and everything will be fine. It doesnt work like that anymore.

Girls have to show interest but they arent doing this anymore

[Briangumble]

Ive never met a guy that sucked with women that hustled srs.

I don't know anyone that sells or does drugs. I can't be a d-boy, even if I could, selling drugs just to attract girls seems a little extreme. What if you get caught and go to prison?

[FrankCostanza]

The problem is at a young age we are told looks don’t matter.

The correct statement is that it’s a big part of it.

[TappingTheZen]

You arent getting a decent looking girl these days just by putting in more effort. Girls have tons of options now days and will never settle for some random guy unless you have connections, decent social skills and are her best looking option.

If you have to chase you've already lost. I 100% know this from irl experiences

An incel could maybe get a 5 but getting anything higher is just not going to be easy in today's dating market

So what? If a guys an incel, chances are he's most likely not a 10/10, so what's exactly wrong with getting a 5, that's probably about his level?

Every incel is different, but a lot of them feel entitled to a 9/10 supermodel when they have very little to offer, in which case it's their problem. Some even live with their girlfriends, and moan because supermodels don't randomly approach them allowing them to cheat on said GF.

[eod8989]

So what? If a guys an incel, chances are he's most likely not a 10/10, so what's exactly wrong with getting a 5, that's probably about his level?

Every incel is different, but a lot of them feel entitled to a 9/10 supermodel when they have very little to offer, in which case it's their problem. Some even live with their girlfriends, and moan because supermodels don't randomly approach them allowing them to cheat on said GF.

That's best case scenario. Very short, ethnic, quiet males won't even have that option.

And I dont think incels feel entitled to a 9. You are exaggerating here. Most just want someone on their looks level or a girl that isnt obese.

[TappingTheZen]

That's best case scenario. Very short, ethnic, quiet males won't even have that option.

And I dont think incels feel entitled to a 9. You are exaggerating here. Most just want someone on their looks level or a girl that isnt obese.

I said 'lots of', and yes of course i was exaggerating to make a point.

There's two main types of incel:
1. Those who are very anti social, don't want to help themselves and are their own worst enemy - you probably fall under this, they can't get laid because they lack basic social skills, and in your situation look down on others and are very judgemental, all whilst moaning about not being able to meet anyone (although most of them don't have a GF waiting at home while they're crying about it...). They are also extremely unrealistic about what they offer (i.e they think they're top 10% ). How can these kind of people expect to get top tier females?

2. Those who are simply genetically lower tier males, in which case what's the issue with getting the female genetic equivalent of themselves?

So basically, incels have some kind of issue blocking them from getting laid that makes them a less desirable male.. .whether it's poor social skills, being extremely negative, looking down on others or simply being low tier genetically. So what exactly is the problem with them getting a women who is less desirable, since that's their female equivalent? Not everyone can get the best women, this is just common sense.. and if you want higher quality women then you need to work at making yourself into a higher quality male. If you don't put the work in, you can't moan... you're not entitled to any woman you desire, you get what you can get.

[Coolman468]

Dudes will seriously cry that they can't get girls yet whenever you ask them what they are doing to achieve that their answers are trash. I've tried dating apps and can't get matches. I try to cold approach girls and get rejected everytime. What are your hobbies? Well I like to lift, play video games, and I really like sports. So you go to work and then the gym and magically expect a woman to appear?

You gotta go where the girls are. If you cant cold approach girls in public or at bars then you gotta change it up. Start doing hobbies that attract females. All these forever alone incels seriously don't get that sometimes you have to get out of your comfort zone and go where girls like to go. Why is this rocket science all of the sudden?? I'm at work and just had to rant after seeing post after post about being forever alone.

For your time

Fuark!! Man that girl in gif has a cake back there, oh man, the things I’d do to that, I’m going raw and blasting inside her.

Honestly time is an issue when it comes to getting girls, I do fairly well online and in person, so I don’t really dedicate much time to them. But let’s take my schedule for example, I am in grad school, the days I go in I spend hours of my day at school and 1hr travel time. I go in 2x a week, the days I don’t go in I spend 2-3hrs in the gym. Then I go home and dedicate 3-4hrs to school, then I work on my side hustle for 2-3hrs, then I watch TV and play video games because that’s more important than meeting some sloot. But at the end of that it’s dark outside and people are heading to bed to get ready for work or class, if I want to go where girls go such as yoga or something than I’ll have to take 1-2 hrs from my other activities which I am not willing to do.

Although since I’m currently in a drought I’m willing to dedicate more time to finding a chick. Over the last year i dedicated a lot of time to getting girls after my breakup, I got a ton of them, but in the end I’ve come to realize that it’s a waste of time, so it’s harder to go out of my way now to get them. I’ve generally become lazy, and discouraged by the whole process, although I get a decent amount, I get them because of the sheer number of fishing lines I throw out there and some bite and you lose them right before you bring them to shore, it’s just a waste of time honestly. Dedicate time to what’s really important, not some loser chicks.

[eod8989]

I said 'lots of', and yes of course i was exaggerating to make a point.

There's two main types of incel:
1. Those who are very anti social, don't want to help themselves and are their own worst enemy - you probably fall under this, they can't get laid because they lack basic social skills, and in your situation look down on others and are very judgemental, all whilst moaning about not being able to meet anyone (although most of them don't have a GF waiting at home while they're crying about it...). They are also extremely unrealistic about what they offer (i.e they think they're top 10% ). How can these kind of people expect to get top tier females?

2. Those who are simply genetically lower tier males, in which case what's the issue with getting the female genetic equivalent of themselves?

So basically, incels have some kind of issue blocking them from getting laid that makes them a less desirable male.. .whether it's poor social skills, being extremely negative, looking down on others or simply being low tier genetically. So what exactly is the problem with them getting a women who is less desirable, since that's their female equivalent? Not everyone can get the best women, this is just common sense.. and if you want higher quality women then you need to work at making yourself into a higher quality male. If you don't put the work in, you can't moan... you're not entitled to any woman you desire, you get what you can get.

You're making stuff up again. Hypergamy is making it to where a lot or men have to date way down or get nothing at all. That is the reason incel rates have nearly tripled in the last 10 years. You don't know how all of these incels are irl and how hard they try either, it's a hypergamy problem but you are too dumb to admit this.

[Yoidiot]

Dudes will seriously cry that they can't get girls yet whenever you ask them what they are doing to achieve that their answers are trash. I've tried dating apps and can't get matches. I try to cold approach girls and get rejected everytime. What are your hobbies? Well I like to lift, play video games, and I really like sports. So you go to work and then the gym and magically expect a woman to appear?

You gotta go where the girls are. If you cant cold approach girls in public or at bars then you gotta change it up. Start doing hobbies that attract females. All these forever alone incels seriously don't get that sometimes you have to get out of your comfort zone and go where girls like to go. Why is this rocket science all of the sudden?? I'm at work and just had to rant after seeing post after post about being forever alone.

For your time

Now use the same logic on women who do fuark all and get chased by 1000 guys on tinder

Go rope yourself ***gt