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    Hey guys, frustrated skinny fat here.

    in the pictures below, they are about 10 weeks apart. I’m done progressively overloading during that time, took a vacation and added about 3lbs then went on a cut (400 below maintenance), stalled on lifts, increased calories (150 to 200 below maintenance), and started progressing on lifts again

    See any difference between the two pics? Can’t seem to get the fuk out of this skinny fat zone. Fuark!!!

    - Sept 28 - average weight 167.5lbs
    - Went on vacation early October and came back with 169.5 average weight.
    - continue eating maintenance and lifting weight stable at 169lbs
    - November 1st started a cut at 1850 calories. Increased calories end of November to 2100.
    - Currently - 166.2lbs and weight loss is almost negligible - less than 0.5lbs a week




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    u need to shave
    Shave what? Not sure what are you referring to. Srs
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    Nah bro - I like my body hair lmao at the dudes who shave their body hair.

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    Originally Posted by eatliftskate View Post
    Sorry but I see no difference
    ****en joke is on me. I cut and lifts stall. All the bros suggest I increase calories a bit and continue progressing

    I do just that. Weight stalls and lifts progress. But I fuken look the same month over month.

    I’m not quitting BB this time around - I’m gonna keep lifting.

    But wtf???

    Half of you will say keep lifting and keep eating at slight deficit/maintenance.

    Other half will say cut down to 12% and then bulk.

    Frustrated...what do?
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    why did u hide ur bulge with the tissue box we wanna know what ur working with
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    Really no difference bro, but I can tell you don’t lift hard enough. You gotta go harder in the gym man.
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    why did u hide ur bulge with the tissue box we wanna know what ur working with
    It’s a very nice slightly above average piece of tool...that’s all you get to know (no homo srs)

    Originally Posted by Coolman468 View Post
    Really no difference bro, but I can tell you don’t lift hard enough. You gotta go harder in the gym man.
    I am progressing as the program calls for it. I’m following fierce 5

    I did do a reset end of November when I stalled due to running 500 deficit. I’m almost reaching to the same working weights this week. I think that resetting was a mistake. I should’ve just started eating more or should have just continued with the cut (but I also got a root canal last week so I keep eating at 200 deficit to help with healing and inflammation)

    What else do I gotta do to make sure I’m lifting HARD?
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    Stick to around 1900-2000 Kcal.

    Lift full body 3 times per week with a focus on 1 compound press (A bench variation/Shoulder press), 1 compound leg movement (squat/dead) and a compound pull (Rows/Pulls) and focus on rotating every 3-4 weeks between strength style (5x3-5), bodybuilder (3x8-12) and endurance/pump reps(2x12-15), a core exercise for higher reps and 2-3 accessories each day such as curls, rear delt flyes, shrugs, calves etc for 2x8-20 reps.

    On off days go for a 20-30 minute walk.

    I know it can be a bit of a meme but I'd recommend a paleo style diet higher in fat to promote male hormones and relatively low on carbs to kill those sweet cravings.

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    Originally Posted by TryingBB View Post
    It’s a very nice slightly above average piece of tool...that’s all you get to know (no homo srs)



    I am progressing as the program calls for it. I’m following fierce 5

    I did do a reset end of November when I stalled due to running 500 deficit. I’m almost reaching to the same working weights this week. I think that resetting was a mistake. I should’ve just started eating more or should have just continued with the cut (but I also got a root canal last week so I keep eating at 200 deficit to help with healing and inflammation)

    What else do I gotta do to make sure I’m lifting HARD?
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    ****en joke is on me. I cut and lifts stall. All the bros suggest I increase calories a bit and continue progressing


    Frustrated...what do?
    First of all quit being a bish and listening to everyone you speak to. IF you are going to keep listening to randos then just listen to me and never ask anyone else for advice again. Stop trying to "cut". Your goal, IMO, isn't to be skinny. You just need to add muscle mass and keep overall weight either the same or add weight. So eat what you think is about maintenance and keep protein intake consistent with at a minimum 100-120 grams a day.

    Okay weight goals and nutrition figured out on to weight lifting. As a natty dude you gotta get a progressive overload going. A lot of people think that means just doing the same about of reps, but adding weight each day. Obviously as a natty lifter you can't manage that. What I have found that works for me is doing bro splits focused around "the big 3" and alternating between adding heavier weight for sets of 5 THEN the next day for same lift do heavier weight for sets of 12 so I still more volume.

    So Monday I'd do a heavy leg day for sets of 5. Tuesday row/bike/run and accessory lifts OR more likely OFF day. Wednesday: chest and biceps volume reps of 12. Thursday off or cardio stuff similar to Tuesday. Friday Back day Heavy sets of 5.

    Next week

    Monday volume legs Wednesday chest/bi's heavy Friday volume back day


    Seem easy enough?
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    Your shoulders are more forward in the second picture.

    Be sure you're doing enough back and rear delt work. Keep doing nothing but bench/press exercises and you're going to have muscular imbalances and fuarked up shoulders.
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    Looks like you put on a wife beater and just shaved around it with the chattiest clippers you could find.
    Other than that just keep lifting. You almost look like you do so keep it up bro. Youll get there.
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    Lift more. More volume.


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    in the pictures below, they are about 10 weeks apart. I’m done progressively overloading during that time, took a vacation and added about 3lbs then went on a cut (400 below maintenance), stalled on lifts, increased calories (150 to 200 below maintenance), and started progressing on lifts again
    you did all that chit in 10 weeks and expected to see severe progress?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

    you do realize that lifting will take longer than 6 months, longer than a year etc.... but nothing will happen if you dont even stick to one thing and give it a solid effort??

    So quit being a puss and LIFT WEIGHTS........ and focus solely on what you need to do to gain muscle.
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    if you want to make gains especially early you just have to eat a lot. my friend is like 160 and would eat 2.8k-3k calories

    i ate 4k sometimes 4.3

    it was winter so i put on a stomach but no one could really see plus it was like a gut like yours not like fat

    then when we both cut i made way better gains and we did same program

    but people dont want to get fat. its worth it
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    Originally Posted by deeAvi View Post
    if you want to make gains especially early you just have to eat a lot. my friend is like 160 and would eat 2.8k-3k calories

    i ate 4k sometimes 4.3

    it was winter so i put on a stomach but no one could really see plus it was like a gut like yours not like fat

    then when we both cut i made way better gains and we did same program

    but people dont want to get fat. its worth it
    I’m at 20% body fat. I am willing to put on some fat, however I hear that for optimal muscle gains I should get down to 12% and then bulk?

    What was your starting body fat when you started bulking?

    Originally Posted by Iluvmud View Post
    you did all that chit in 10 weeks and expected to see severe progress?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

    you do realize that lifting will take longer than 6 months, longer than a year etc.... but nothing will happen if you dont even stick to one thing and give it a solid effort??

    So quit being a puss and LIFT WEIGHTS........ and focus solely on what you need to do to gain muscle.
    Lol thanks for the reality check.

    I know it’s a slow process but seeing no visual change in so many weeks is kinda making me think I’m doing something wrong.

    Currently I’m focusing on progressive overload and improving the way my body looks. I was cutting on 500 deficit till my lifts started stalling (I’m very weak). I added 250 calories and did a reset. Lifts are going up but weight loss has stalled.

    You said do everything to gain muscle - does that mean go ahead and eat a surplus and put on weight?
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    Barely 2.5 months breh. Just lift hard and maybe cut back on carbs. Keto if you can stand it, might lose the bloat. Stop looking at mags or Instagram unless you got some dat dere on hand, even then progress takes time and should be measured in 6-12 month increments. Likely you can cut and build muscle at the same time as a noob lifter, but diet shouldn't be focus at this point, you're not a whale.
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    Originally Posted by Johnez View Post
    Barely 2.5 months breh. Just lift hard and maybe cut back on carbs. Keto if you can stand it, might lose the bloat. Stop looking at mags or Instagram unless you got some dat dere on hand, even then progress takes time and should be measured in 6-12 month increments. Likely you can cut and build muscle at the same time as a noob lifter,[/b] but diet shouldn't be focus at this point, you're not a whale.[/b]
    Thanks man I’ll take that as a complement lol

    Can you elaborate on the bold part quoted above?

    Diet should not be a focus - as in - eat maintenance or at a surplus or keep cutting? What do?

    I really want to stop giving a fuk and eat 100 to 150 above maintenance but Kim (trainer on here on bb.com) said I’ll regret it. Tht I should cut to 160lbs before starting a slow bulk. Getting to that 160lbs has turned into a bish cuz I stopped progressing in the gym and my lifts stalled at 166lbs. Had to go from 400 deficit to 150 deficit and lifts are going up again.

    I know maintenance don’t work for me cuz even though lifts go up I look the same. Did that for 3 months back in August.
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    10 weeks is nothing keep working hard and you’ll see the difference

    How long have you been lifting?
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    Don't get caught up in all the percentages and caloric intake non sense.

    Unless you're a competitive bodybuilder, or very overweight, counting calories isn't necessary. Just eat well. Eat a good breakfast, lunch, dinner, and something for in between if you get a little hungry. That's it. Stick to mostly whole foods. As a skinny fat guy, diet has almost nothing to do with it.

    I'm going to be straight up with you here and just tell you the truth. Nothing changed because you didn't do any work. Whatever you did in the gym, don't ever do anything like that again. You need intensity. You need to push yourself to the limit. That doesn't mean throw 315 on the bar and squat it with bad form and if you die you die. No I'm saying actually go into your workout as if it were a war with yourself. Crush yourself. So many people I see in the gym consistently look exactly the same, despite doing programs and being there as long and as often as me. Nothing changes because they are going through the motions. They are barely sweating. I did 5 total working sets on 3 exercises for back for the past 6 weeks. I went from 225x10 full rom barbell rows to 275x15 yesterday. I went from 80x30 reps to 100x38 reps on single arm db rows. How? By just wanting it more every training session. That's it. I went until I physically couldn't do one more rep. Benching 185lbs for 5x5? Just do one set of 185lb as many reps as possible. Then drop down to 135lbs and do as much as possible. Then do push ups in varying arm positions for sets, until you hit 200 total push ups. Do some work. Push yourself.
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    Originally Posted by Pterodactyl314 View Post
    10 weeks is nothing keep working hard and you’ll see the difference

    How long have you been lifting?
    I’ve been lifting seriously since August 2019. So 4.5 months.

    Took a week off in between while vacationing and gained ~3 lbs fat.

    Up until recently I felt the fat gain was worth it. I don’t think it was actually. Next vacation will be more careful and will remember to workout every 4 days at least if not more. I was out for almost 9 days and lost some strength.

    Anyhow short answer - 4.5 months derisory lifting. Before that I was fukikg around a tad bit
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    Originally Posted by DeadlyStriker View Post
    Don't get caught up in all the percentages and caloric intake non sense.

    Unless you're a competitive bodybuilder, or very overweight, counting calories isn't necessary. Just eat well. Eat a good breakfast, lunch, dinner, and something for in between if you get a little hungry. That's it. Stick to mostly whole foods. As a skinny fat guy, diet has almost nothing to do with it.

    I'm going to be straight up with you here and just tell you the truth. Nothing changed because you didn't do any work. Whatever you did in the gym, don't ever do anything like that again. You need intensity. You need to push yourself to the limit. That doesn't mean throw 315 on the bar and squat it with bad form and if you die you die. No I'm saying actually go into your workout as if it were a war with yourself. Crush yourself. So many people I see in the gym consistently look exactly the same, despite doing programs and being there as long and as often as me. Nothing changes because they are going through the motions. They are barely sweating. I did 5 total working sets on 3 exercises for back for the past 6 weeks. I went from 225x10 full rom barbell rows to 275x15 yesterday. I went from 80x30 reps to 100x38 reps on single arm db rows. How? By just wanting it more every training session. That's it. I went until I physically couldn't do one more rep. Benching 185lbs for 5x5? Just do one set of 185lb as many reps as possible. Then drop down to 135lbs and do as much as possible. Then do push ups in varying arm positions for sets, until you hit 200 total push ups. Do some work. Push yourself.
    Sounds intense.

    I’m following fierce 5 and progressing as the program calls for it.
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    Have your lifts gone up at all? Is your training good? doing deloads and stuff? 10 weeks is not a lot of time for change
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