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    Exclamation Supreme Court leaves Kentucky's ultrasound law in place

    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireSt...place-67597419

    In Kentucky, doctors must describe the ultrasound in detail while the pregnant woman listens to the fetal heartbeat. Women can avert their eyes and cover their ears to avoid hearing the description or the fetal heartbeat. Doctors failing to comply face fines and can be referred to the state's medical licensing board.

    The ACLU called the law unconstitutional and unethical. ACLU lawyer Alexa Kolbi-Molinas said that the Supreme Court “has rubber-stamped extreme political interference in the doctor-patient relationship.”

    Pitt painted a different picture of the law. “It’s a five-minute procedure that takes place before the abortion is performed to give women who might have a lack of understanding of what’s actually in the womb, that this is a real living human being there, they might change their mind," he said.

    The high court’s decision not to review the ultrasound case came on Bevin’s final day in office. Bevin, a Republican, is an outspoken abortion opponent. During his term, he signed a series of measures passed by the GOP-led legislature that put limits and conditions on abortion, including the 2017 ultrasound law. Those laws have triggered several legal challenges.

    Bevin was defeated in last month’s election by Democratic Attorney General Andy Beshear, but Republicans remain in control of the state legislature.
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    And?
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    Originally Posted by iabs View Post
    Edit: do you think you negging me means anything?

    Seek help, you are beyond mentally unstable.
    It helps me spread them around as I mentioned in the neg comment. Keep crying.

    Not really an edit when you make another post.
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    I think people should understand the gravity of the decision they are making. I am fine with it. I don't see how pro-choicers could have a problem with it logically...they say its perfectly OK to abort the fetus, so who cares if the Doctor describes the fetus to the patient?
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    It helps me spread them around as I mentioned in the neg comment. Keep crying.

    Not really an edit when you make another post.
    Why do you neg people who disagree with you? I'll answer that, you are the same way in real life. Intolerant leftist liberal.
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    Edit: do you think you negging me means anything?

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    people forget that the doctors are the ones that actually have to kill the baby

    i'm sure it's hard on a lot of them too, so they probably want people to be extra sure about it
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    Originally Posted by Retoaded View Post
    I think people should understand the gravity of the decision they are making. I am fine with it. I don't see how pro-choicers could have a problem with it logically...they say its perfectly OK to abort the fetus, so who cares if the Doctor describes the fetus to the patient?
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    people forget that the doctors are the ones that actually have to kill the baby

    i'm sure it's hard on a lot of them too, so they probably want people to be extra sure about it
    imagine going into medicine to help people and save lives and then you end up as the abortion guy killing unborn babies on a regular basis
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    Let's apply this logic to the death sentence.
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    Let's apply this logic to the death sentence.
    Sure. Apply it to our foreign wars as well.
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    Let's apply this logic to the death sentence.
    what should they ultrasound in that case?
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    I think people should understand the gravity of the decision they are making. I am fine with it. I don't see how pro-choicers could have a problem with it logically...they say its perfectly OK to abort the fetus, so who cares if the Doctor describes the fetus to the patient?
    Well, I don't think it's really the state's place to mandate that doctors try to shame women into changing their mind about what is already a very difficult decision. As a libertarian, that strikes me as a gross overstep of government authority.
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    Originally Posted by Jayarbie View Post
    Well, I don't think it's really the state's place to mandate that doctors try to shame women into changing their mind about what is already a very difficult decision. As a libertarian, that strikes me as a gross overstep of government authority.
    Shaming? Just giving them all the facts.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    Sure. Apply it to our foreign wars as well.
    A perfect example was Trump asking military intel on number of casualties that a strike on Iran would cause following their shoot down of our unmanned drone.

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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    I think that's fine. She should be aware of what she is killing.
    Its not even that. All patients regardless of medical procedures should to be told what the procedure entails. Abortion no different.

    Would the ACLU be against doctors telling their patients about what their knee replacement entails??
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    Originally Posted by RIKTER View Post
    Its not even that. All patients regardless of medical procedures should to be told what the procedure entails. Abortion no different.

    Would the ACLU be against doctors telling their patients about what their knee replacement entails??
    I wonder if death row inmates are told what to expect before lethal injection.
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    They should at least know what they are killing. This should be standard procedure everywhere
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    Originally Posted by Retoaded View Post
    Shaming? Just giving them all the facts.
    The fact that they are pregnant? Did they not know this when they went in for the abortion?

    Just seems like a dumb waste of money to me. Who is paying for the added ultrasounds?
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