Official Thread DOJ IG Horowitz report on FBI's Trump-Russia Investigation

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[scheal]

James Comey and his FBI agents used anti-Trump Russia dossier to get spy warrants on president's campaign allies despite being told author Christopher Steele was biased and his sources were flawed, reveals DOJ inspector general in scathing report

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ite-flaws.html

[rampagefc77]

Not only did they lie and say that steele's fake information was true, they also lied about steele's credentials in order to boost him up. At the same time, they hid all of the derogatory information about him from ohr, the state dept, and the UK.

You can't make this stuff up.

[XterraRob]

yes we know rob the cuck, we know...

LMFAO!

I'm glad I can make you smile.

[FoxMcCocks]

It really doesn't matter what this report says. Trumpers live in an alternate reality and will believe whatever he tells them to believe.

The Mueller report detailed 10 instances of OOJ, and yet Trumpers will chant "no collusion, no obstruction" at any mention of the report because that's what Trump says on Twitter

There's no use trying to convince Trumpers of anything, and I honestly can't comprehend why any of the liberals on this forum even bother. The only thing this forum is good for is lmaoing at how stupid Trumpers can be.

[NYPat]

Imagine the CTers ITT if the report actually said what they claimed..

[XterraRob]

It really doesn't matter what this report says. Trumpers live in an alternate reality and will believe whatever he tells them to believe.

The Mueller report detailed 10 instances of OOJ, and yet Trumpers will chant "no collusion, no obstruction" at any mention of the report because that's what Trump says on Twitter

There's no use trying to convince Trumpers of anything, and I honestly can't comprehend why any of the liberals on this forum even bother. The only thing this forum is good for is lmaoing at how stupid Trumpers can be.

And yet, here you are.

[chalup]

Imagine the CTers ITT if the report actually said what they claimed..

Everything is in the report. What exactly are we not telling the truth on?

[chalup]

It really doesn't matter what this report says. Trumpers live in an alternate reality and will believe whatever he tells them to believe.

The Mueller report detailed 10 instances of OOJ, and yet Trumpers will chant "no collusion, no obstruction" at any mention of the report because that's what Trump says on Twitter

There's no use trying to convince Trumpers of anything, and I honestly can't comprehend why any of the liberals on this forum even bother. The only thing this forum is good for is lmaoing at how stupid Trumpers can be.

States this report doesn't matter, goes on to another report that has nothing to do with this one, states Republicans live in an alternate reality... Lol my dude.

[rampagefc77]

So I think we can all agree that everything I've said for the last 1+ years is true.

1) The FBI relied on the steele dossier to get the FISA warrant, presented it as verified to the court, when in fact it was all fake
2) The boosted steele's past work as an informant to justify his work, which wasn't based on fact
3) The withheld derogatory info on steele that they had from ohr, the state dept, and the UK
4) THe withheld exculpatory evidence that would have proven the innocence of page and others
5) THey withheld the fact that Page was a US asset tasked with bringing down Russians just months before they were claiming he was a Russian spy
6) None of the renewals added any factual information to justify the renewal
7) They gave Clinton a defensive briefing, they did not do the same for trump


Basically, the committed fraud on the court multiple times in an effort to spy on trump, when their only "factual" predicate for doing so was papdapolous telling someone he heard a rumor that Russia had Clinton emails. Even though there were news reports out claiming that foreign govts might have Clintons emails at the time. And worst of all, he heard the rumor for a western intel agent who was tasked with planting that idea, and then pulled by another western intel agent tasked with pulling it from him.

A corrupt spy investigation from the start.

At least Barr and Durham have both said that they hold information that makes it clear that the predicate for the investigation was not legit.

For an IG report, the IG being a guy that cannot indict, this is about as damning as they can possibly come.

Sillie, I expect my apology now.

[jeffl1980]

It really doesn't matter what this report says. Trumpers live in an alternate reality and will believe whatever he tells them to believe.

The Mueller report detailed 10 instances of OOJ, and yet Trumpers will chant "no collusion, no obstruction" at any mention of the report because that's what Trump says on Twitter

There's no use trying to convince Trumpers of anything, and I honestly can't comprehend why any of the liberals on this forum even bother. The only thing this forum is good for is lmaoing at how stupid Trumpers can be.

Why didn't the house try to impeach on OOJ then? Why Ukraine if Muellers investigation had damning information?

[FoxMcCocks]

Why didn't the house try to impeach on OOJ then? Why Ukraine if Muellers investigation had damning information?

You do realize the House is still considering including an article of impeachment for OOJ related to the Russia investigation right?

[XterraRob]

So I think we can all agree that everything I've said for the last 1+ years is true.

1) The FBI relied on the steele dossier to get the FISA warrant, presented it as verified to the court, when in fact it was all fake
2) The boosted steele's past work as an informant to justify his work, which wasn't based on fact
3) The withheld derogatory info on steele that they had from ohr, the state dept, and the UK
4) THe withheld exculpatory evidence that would have proven the innocence of page and others
5) THey withheld the fact that Page was a US asset tasked with bringing down Russians just months before they were claiming he was a Russian spy
6) None of the renewals added any factual information to justify the renewal
7) They gave Clinton a defensive briefing, they did not do the same for trump


Basically, the committed fraud on the court multiple times in an effort to spy on trump, when their only "factual" predicate for doing so was papdapolous telling someone he heard a rumor that Russia had Clinton emails. Even though there were news reports out claiming that foreign govts might have Clintons emails at the time. And worst of all, he heard the rumor for a western intel agent who was tasked with planting that idea, and then pulled by another western intel agent tasked with pulling it from him.

A corrupt spy investigation from the start.

At least Barr and Durham have both said that they hold information that makes it clear that the predicate for the investigation was not legit.

For an IG report, the IG being a guy that cannot indict, this is about as damning as they can possibly come.

Sillie, I expect my apology now.

I want to know the evidence that Durham has that kicked off his criminal investigation, and if the IG weighed into the context of that in his report. Because if there is something, and the IG didn't touch upon that in his final report, that's kind of weird.

[rampagefc77]

You do realize the House is still considering including an article of impeachment for OOJ related to the Russia investigation right?

Trump obstructed the investigation that he handed over 1 million + documents and gave full access to everyone that Mueller wanted… including his own attorneys when he could have claimed executive privilege.

GOod luck with that one.

To put it into perspective, Clinton deleted subpoenaed evidence and destroyed subpoenaed devices and she didn't get obstruction of justice....

[chalup]

You do realize the House is still considering including an article of impeachment for OOJ related to the Russia investigation right?

Why are they considering adding that when they haven't talked about it one time in impeachment inquiry's..? When did they decide they might add OOJ to impeachment? When they realized how bad it was going for them so they throw even more shiet at the wall..??

[rampagefc77]

I want to know the evidence that Durham has that kicked off his criminal investigation, and if the IG weighed into the context of that in his report. Because if there is something, and the IG didn't touch upon that in his final report, that's kind of weird.

The IG claims that the rumor papadapolous repeated was sufficient predicate. I think most could argue with that being evidence that trumps team was implicated in some collusion scheme. Perhaps they could have told the CIA to look into Russian efforts, but to conclude that trump's team was involved and launch a huge investigation with spying and foreign spies?

The reality is Mifsud was western intel who was tasked with telling papadapolous that Russia had the emails. Mifsud's own lawyer has said that Mifsud was working for western intel. Barr and durham have gone to Italy 3 times... wonder why? Downer was also tasked with pulling that info from papadapolous. Papadapolous says that downer was recording the conversation... if this was months before the investigation opened, and prior to any claimed predicate, no matter how thin... why were they running foreign spies at trump's campaign?

Barr and Durham have that info. Horowitz could only interview people still working at the FBI and DOJ.

Why do you think mueller wouldn't answer questions on Mifsud? He was their star Russian!

Why do you think mueller didn't indict Mifsud even after the FBI claimed that Mifsud lied to the FBI? THe FBI was indicting Russian companies that didn't even exist... surely a lying Russian would get indicted?

Why didn't the FBI warn all of our foreign allies about the risk posed by Mifsud? Mifsud has been side by side western intel for years. He teaches western intel. Imagine the risk this Russian must have posed!

Mifsud was a western intel agent tasked with spying on trumps team. That's why.

[XterraRob]

Mifsud was a western intel agent tasked with spying on trumps team. That's why.

If Horowitz has access to DOJ officials and they knew what you state above, why wouldn't the IG include that in the report?

That would be important to mention, especially since the IG made a statement about the credibility of the evidence and justification for the investigation.

Hopefully we get more answers from the Horowitz's hearing.

[EternaLovE]

It really doesn't matter what this report says. Trumpers live in an alternate reality and will believe whatever he tells them to believe.

The Mueller report detailed 10 instances of OOJ, and yet Trumpers will chant "no collusion, no obstruction" at any mention of the report because that's what Trump says on Twitter

There's no use trying to convince Trumpers of anything, and I honestly can't comprehend why any of the liberals on this forum even bother. The only thing this forum is good for is lmaoing at how stupid Trumpers can be.

u obviously never read the mueller report, he says it on twitter cuz thats what it basically says if u fuking read it.

u stupid motherfuker. no wonder the case was dropped for a reason

oh wait u dont know how to think for urself so u rather let the media do the thinking u pathetic piece of chit.

just laughing at how fuking dumb u really are.

[Kane_89]

If Horowitz has access to DOJ officials and they knew what you state above, why wouldn't the IG include that in the report?

That would be important to mention, especially since the IG made a statement about the credibility of the evidence and justification for the investigation.

Hopefully we get more answers from the Horowitz's hearing.

I hope you realize that 99% of the stuff rampage says is made up out of thin air.

I've asked him numerous times where he gets his information from and he never says.

[Stizzel]

I didn't go through this whole thing but from what I read the jist of it is yeah we did everything you think we did, but none of it was against the rules. Which really isn't surprising.

[viathinair]

Justice Department inspector general concludes Russia probe was justified

Another fake narrative down, after Trump supporters said it was guaranteed that the report would be "damning", LOL

Also, we should remember that Trump's other major fake narrative about "Ukraine corruption" was exposed for the fake-news garbage it was.

Imagine being dumb enough to believe something Trump says, LMAO.

[rampagefc77]

If Horowitz has access to DOJ officials and they knew what you state above, why wouldn't the IG include that in the report?

That would be important to mention, especially since the IG made a statement about the credibility of the evidence and justification for the investigation.

Hopefully we get more answers from the Horowitz's hearing.

The FBI is giong to throw brennan under the bus and say that he never told them mifsud was western intel.

Brennan is going to throw the FBI under the bus and say that it is the FBIs job to vet all intel that comes their way. Brennan was just "passing along what he heard."

The bottom line is that they were all in on it.

[rampagefc77]

I hope you realize that 99% of the stuff rampage says is made up out of thin air.

I've asked him numerous times where he gets his information from and he never says.

Again, if mifsud is a russian agent... why didn't mueller call him that in the report? Why didn't mueller answer questions about mifsud, specifically the questions about whether he was a russian or western intel agent? Why didn't mueller indict mifsud for "lying to the FBI?" Why did the DNC put out a report saying Mifsud was dead, when he was hiding in plain sight in italy?

There is no way to rationalize the handling of all things mifsud. He was the big bad wolf that started this whole thing... but mueller didn't even indict him? Especailly when they had him on lying charges?

No chance.

Mifsud is a protected western intel asset. There is no other explanation. Please offer one if you have it.

[rampagefc77]

Another fake narrative down, after Trump supporters said it was guaranteed that the report would be "damning", LOL

Also, we should remember that Trump's other major fake narrative about "Ukraine corruption" was exposed for the fake-news garbage it was.

Imagine being dumb enough to believe something Trump says, LMAO.

Apparently you missed the 2 statements from durham and barr who have additional information and state that they disagree with that statement based on a more complete set of data.

Unless you just like this limited review and don't care about all of the facts?

[Kane_89]

Again, if mifsud is a russian agent... why didn't mueller call him that in the report? Why didn't mueller answer questions about mifsud, specifically the questions about whether he was a russian or western intel agent? Why didn't mueller indict mifsud for "lying to the FBI?" Why did the DNC put out a report saying Mifsud was dead, when he was hiding in plain sight in italy?

There is no way to rationalize the handling of all things mifsud. He was the big bad wolf that started this whole thing... but mueller didn't even indict him? Especailly when they had him on lying charges?

No chance.

Mifsud is a protected western intel asset. There is no other explanation. Please offer one if you have it.

For the 16th time...

Where do you get your "facts" from?

[rampagefc77]

I hope you realize that 99% of the stuff rampage says is made up out of thin air.

I've asked him numerous times where he gets his information from and he never says.

See my bulleted points above, the same points I've been saying for 1+ years. All in the report.

The only point that dems are grasping to is that the IG concluded there was lawful predicate, when the 2 people leading the investigation beyond the scope of the IG both say they have more info that makes them come to a different conclusion.

So you are all hanging on to a talking point that people running a criminal investigation are saying is going to be shattered.

As the song goes "don't stop, believing"

[rampagefc77]

For the 16th time...

Where do you get your "facts" from?

Are they correct? Or are they not?

That's all that matters.

And everything I said would be in the report is in the report. Either I am just lucky, or I have better sources than your Wapo, NYT nonsense.

[rampagefc77]

I'm still waiting on my apology from Sillie. Where did he go, anyway?

[ceizer1985]

For an IG report, the IG being a guy that cannot indict, this is about as damning as they can possibly come.

Maybe in la la land where Q and you reside.

If this report was damning, you wouldn't have Barr and his crony out with an alternative response an hour after its release.

Hope you find what your looking for in the Durham report. (You won't but dont lose hope.)

[rampagefc77]

We need more answers on this though - does the DOJ have information to prove that Misfud was working with Western Intelligence?

The Mueller Report can get by excusing this out of ignorance but Horowitz's report can't, especially if Durham & Barr were aware of it, and especially given that both of those individuals reviewed the IG's report before it was finalized. So if they had important information they felt should have been included, information that would help dispute the IG's findings, they should have passed that along.

Unless they are withholding that information for a specific purpose. Something doesn't smell right.

1) They have been to italy where mifsud is living 3 times. They listened to a taped deposition of mifsud. Mifsud's own lawyer is on the record saying mifsud was working for western intel at the time of the meeting.

2) If mifsud was a russian agent... do you think he would just hand over his cell phones? No chance.

During the meetings between mifsud and papadaolous, there was a girl that tagged along with mifsud who claimed to be putin's niece. She is almost guaranteed to be another western intel agent. Papadapolous said that she didn't speak english in person, but spoke perfect english in emails which tipped him off. Allegedly the files on these meetings between papa and mifsud are in the third person. Likely narrated by her.

Just like halper had azra turk. Just like downer had erika thompson. All of the spies were working with "honeypots." All meetings were set up for papadapoous and overseas to bypass US spying laws on americans.

There's a lot of info out there. Even members of congress and the senate have picked up on it. They have asked pointed questions in depositions and nobody wants to talk about mifsud... I wonder why?