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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    And once again the AG of the US, OUR AG, is acting as a stooge for Trump. What a phuking world.


    "The inspector general’s report now makes clear that the FBI launched an intrusive investigation of a U.S. presidential campaign on the thinnest of suspicions, that, in my view, were insufficient to justify the steps taken. It is also clear that, from its inception the evidence produced by the investigation was consistently exculpatory."

    In Barr's opinion. Of course. He also offered his opinion about the Mueller report and it was so one-sided and wrong that freaking Mueller had to correct him.

    Barr is a blight upon this country.
    Barr isn't wrong in that context - Why didn't the information that lead to the surveillance of a Presidential candidate's campaign receive more scrutiny?

    That right there is bad no matter what way you look at it. You don't just shoe-horn information through the gates hoping it sticks and not vet it, that's a horrible precedent to set and can be abused in the future. Answer us Mr. Horowitz! That dude's going to get eaten alive if any of the hearing members have an ounce of backbone. This can affect them as well, not just presidential candidates. It leaves open a low standard burden of proof, which opens the door for abuse. Abuse that's already been shown to have existed within the FISA framework.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    OMFG you are sooo far gone. You're like that special kid who doesn't quite realize that he's special.

    Ok Corky. I'm sure your CT shill sites have ALL the best bigly info.
    When did strzok personally open the investigation?
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    Originally Posted by tecom View Post
    Bill Barr:

    Statement by Attorney General William P. Barr on the Inspector General's Report of the Review of Four FISA Applications and Other Aspects of the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane Investigation

    Attorney General William P. Barr issued the following statement:

    "Nothing is more important than the credibility and integrity of the FBI and the Department of Justice. That is why we must hold our investigators and prosecutors to the highest ethical and professional standards. The Inspector General’s investigation has provided critical transparency and accountability, and his work is a credit to the Department of Justice. I would like to thank the Inspector General and his team.

    The Inspector General’s report now makes clear that the FBI launched an intrusive investigation of a U.S. presidential campaign on the thinnest of suspicions that, in my view, were insufficient to justify the steps taken. It is also clear that, from its inception, the evidence produced by the investigation was consistently exculpatory. Nevertheless, the investigation and surveillance was pushed forward for the duration of the campaign and deep into President Trump’s administration. In the rush to obtain and maintain FISA surveillance of Trump campaign associates, FBI officials misled the FISA court, omitted critical exculpatory facts from their filings, and suppressed or ignored information negating the reliability of their principal source. The Inspector General found the explanations given for these actions unsatisfactory. While most of the misconduct identified by the Inspector General was committed in 2016 and 2017 by a small group of now-former FBI officials, the malfeasance and misfeasance detailed in the Inspector General’s report reflects a clear abuse of the FISA process.

    FISA is an essential tool for the protection of the safety of the American people. The Department of Justice and the FBI are committed to taking whatever steps are necessary to rectify the abuses that occurred and to ensure the integrity of the FISA process going forward.

    No one is more dismayed about the handling of these FISA applications than Director Wray. I have full confidence in Director Wray and his team at the FBI, as well as the thousands of dedicated line agents who work tirelessly to protect our country. I thank the Director for the comprehensive set of proposed reforms he is announcing today, and I look forward to working with him to implement these and any other appropriate measures.

    With respect to DOJ personnel discussed in the report, the Department will follow all appropriate processes and procedures, including as to any potential disciplinary action."

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/state...view-four-fisa
    Barr comes in with some common sense and says when you add all of it up, it's complete BS. The FBI folks couldn't even explain away their actions because there is no explanation.

    Still trust Barr to hold people accountable.

    Bring on Durham's report!
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    The cracks are definitely starting to show. This is the beginning. So many inconsistencies right now, this is getting good.
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    Originally Posted by tecom View Post
    Bill Barr:

    Statement by Attorney General William P. Barr on the Inspector General's Report of the Review of Four FISA Applications and Other Aspects of the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane Investigation

    Attorney General William P. Barr issued the following statement:

    "Nothing is more important than the credibility and integrity of the FBI and the Department of Justice. That is why we must hold our investigators and prosecutors to the highest ethical and professional standards. The Inspector General’s investigation has provided critical transparency and accountability, and his work is a credit to the Department of Justice. I would like to thank the Inspector General and his team.

    The Inspector General’s report now makes clear that the FBI launched an intrusive investigation of a U.S. presidential campaign on the thinnest of suspicions that, in my view, were insufficient to justify the steps taken. It is also clear that, from its inception, the evidence produced by the investigation was consistently exculpatory. Nevertheless, the investigation and surveillance was pushed forward for the duration of the campaign and deep into President Trump’s administration. In the rush to obtain and maintain FISA surveillance of Trump campaign associates, FBI officials misled the FISA court, omitted critical exculpatory facts from their filings, and suppressed or ignored information negating the reliability of their principal source. The Inspector General found the explanations given for these actions unsatisfactory. While most of the misconduct identified by the Inspector General was committed in 2016 and 2017 by a small group of now-former FBI officials, the malfeasance and misfeasance detailed in the Inspector General’s report reflects a clear abuse of the FISA process.

    FISA is an essential tool for the protection of the safety of the American people. The Department of Justice and the FBI are committed to taking whatever steps are necessary to rectify the abuses that occurred and to ensure the integrity of the FISA process going forward.

    No one is more dismayed about the handling of these FISA applications than Director Wray. I have full confidence in Director Wray and his team at the FBI, as well as the thousands of dedicated line agents who work tirelessly to protect our country. I thank the Director for the comprehensive set of proposed reforms he is announcing today, and I look forward to working with him to implement these and any other appropriate measures.

    With respect to DOJ personnel discussed in the report, the Department will follow all appropriate processes and procedures, including as to any potential disciplinary action."

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/state...view-four-fisa
    The Durham report can't come soon enough.
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    Originally Posted by rampagefc77 View Post
    Barr comes in with some common sense and says when you add all of it up, it's complete BS. The FBI folks couldn't even explain away their actions because there is no explanation.

    Still trust Barr to hold people accountable.

    Bring on Durham's report!

    lol, shocking that you move on to the next bigly drop after crowing about this one for a year.

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    ehhh the report and Barr's statement don't amount to anything serious. Things were done wrong, a few people got fired, thats it. No one is really getting punished. Shocker!
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    Surprise, surprise.

    As a result of the 17 significant inaccuracies and omissions we identified, relevant information was not shared with, and consequently not considered by, important Department decision makers and the court, and the FISA applications made it appear as though the evidence supporting probable cause was stronger than was actually the case. We also found basic, fundamental, and serious errors during the completion of the FBl's factual accuracy reviews, known as the Woods Procedures, which are designed to ensure that FISA applications contain a full and accurate presentation of the facts.

    We are deeply concerned that so many basic and fundamental errors were made by three separate, hand-picked investigative teams; on one of the most sensitive FBI investigations; after the matter had been briefed to the highest levels within the FBI; even though the information sought through use of FISA authority related so closely to an ongoing presidential campaign; and even though those involved with the investigation knew that their actions were likely to be subjected to close scrutiny. We believe this circumstance reflects a failure not just by those who prepared the FISA applications, but also by the managers and supervisors in the Crossfire Hurricane chain of command, including FBI senior officials who were briefed as the investigation progressed.

    In the preparation of the FISA applications to surveil Carter Page, the Crossfire Hurricane team failed to comply with FBI policies, and in so doing fell short of what is rightfully expected from a premier law enforcement agency entrusted with such an intrusive surveillance tool. In light of the significant concerns identified with the Carter Page FISA applications and the other issues described in this report, the OIG today initiated an audit that will further examine the FBI's compliance with the Woods Procedures in FISA applications that target U.S. persons in both counterintelligence and counterterrorism investigations.
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    Originally Posted by WrestlingFan123 View Post
    Surprise, surprise.
    So due to the findings of the report, they are launching further more specific investigations? That is something, even though I still doubt it comes to anything substantial in the end.
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    Originally Posted by WrestlingFan123 View Post
    Surprise, surprise.

    In the preparation of the FISA applications to surveil Carter Page, the Crossfire Hurricane team failed to comply with FBI policies, and in so doing fell short of what is rightfully expected from a premier law enforcement agency entrusted with such an intrusive surveillance tool. In light of the significant concerns identified with the Carter Page FISA applications and the other issues described in this report, the OIG today initiated an audit that will further examine the FBI's compliance with the Woods Procedures in FISA applications that target U.S. persons in both counterintelligence and counterterrorism investigations.
    Anything goes I guess, even for a investigation into a Presidential candidate's campaign.

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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    lol, shocking that you move on to the next bigly drop after crowing about this one for a year.

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    The details are all in there. They lied to the FISA court. They had derogatory info on their source that they didn't present. They had exculpatory info on their targets that they didn't present. They found out that their sources were bunk and they still moved to get more FISAs with the fake intel, telling the court that sources was "trustworthy and cooperative."

    They fired steele but continued to launder steele's fake info through ohr of the DOJ, who had no reason at all to be involved.

    THey leaked their fake news to the media and used it as if it was another source verifying their work.

    They hid the fact that Page was a CIA asset used to bring down Russians.

    Everything I've said for the last few years is true. It's now spelled out for you.

    The predicate for opening the investigation was complete garbage. "Hey, I heard that Russia might have Clinton's emails." Instant investigation targeting 4 trump associated with foreign spies and FISA warrants? Really?

    There was no factual predicate. No 5 eyes intelligence as Nunes said. Nunes memo has proven to be completely true. The Schiff memo is proven false.
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    Statement of U.S. Attorney John H. Durham

    “I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff. However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within component parts of the Justice Department. Our investigation has included developing information from other persons and entities, both in the U.S. and outside of the U.S. Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the Inspector General that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened.”
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    Originally Posted by chalup View Post
    so Trump's stooge's stooge puts out a statement saying he disagrees with the conclusions of the IG report. When his own report isn't even complete?

    That seem "odd" to anyone?
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    Originally Posted by chalup View Post
    Durham knows that Mifsud was western intel who planted the narrative on papadapolous, and that Downer was western intel specifically tasked at extracting that intel out for their justification of spying on trump.

    We all know this already. That is was barr and durham are telling us without giving away their criminal evidence.
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    Originally Posted by rampagefc77 View Post
    The details are all in there. They lied to the FISA court. They had derogatory info on their source that they didn't present. They had exculpatory info on their targets that they didn't present. They found out that their sources were bunk and they still moved to get more FISAs with the fake intel, telling the court that sources was "trustworthy and cooperative."

    They fired steele but continued to launder steele's fake info through ohr of the DOJ, who had no reason at all to be involved.

    THey leaked their fake news to the media and used it as if it was another source verifying their work.

    They hid the fact that Page was a CIA asset used to bring down Russians.

    Everything I've said for the last few years is true. It's now spelled out for you.

    The predicate for opening the investigation was complete garbage. "Hey, I heard that Russia might have Clinton's emails." Instant investigation targeting 4 trump associated with foreign spies and FISA warrants? Really?

    There was no factual predicate. No 5 eyes intelligence as Nunes said. Nunes memo has proven to be completely true. The Schiff memo is proven false.
    lol, you are too much. Well if the Barr's stooge Durham doesn't come through with indictments, I guess there'll be another investigation?

    Oh, and when's McCabe getting indicted? You said your CT shill sources said he lied multiple times under oath and committed other illegal acts.
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    CTpage claimed the DOJ helped Hilldawg's campaign. I'll ask you, which campaign did they damage immensely with an unheard of public announcement of a continuing investigation? IDGAF about all his CT behind the scene bs. Was it Trump or Hilldawg?

    Hilary damaged her own campaign. She was a terrible candidate even though you supported her. Comey had no effect on her voters. They were so dumb and fanatical they would have voted for her no matter what
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    so Trump's stooge's stooge puts out a statement saying he disagrees with the conclusions of the IG report. When his own report isn't even complete?

    That seem "odd" to anyone?
    Get more furious please.

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    Originally Posted by chalup View Post
    “I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff. However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within component parts of the Justice Department. Our investigation has included developing information from other persons and entities, both in the U.S. and outside of the U.S. Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the Inspector General that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened.”
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    Originally Posted by rampagefc77 View Post
    Durham knows that Mifsud was western intel who planted the narrative on papadapolous, and that Downer was western intel specifically tasked at extracting that intel out for their justification of spying on trump.

    We all know this already. That is was barr and durham are telling us without giving away their criminal evidence.
    On the grounds of national security, the CIA can withhold information relative to the status of its agents and sources. Perks of the agency & the whole plausible deniability thing unfortunately .
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    lol, shocking that you move on to the next bigly drop after crowing about this one for a year.

    SMH

    He's been stated for awhile now that Durham's report is the one that could be damning.
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    Statement of U.S. Attorney John H. Durham

    “I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff. However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within component parts of the Justice Department. Our investigation has included developing information from other persons and entities, both in the U.S. and outside of the U.S. Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the Inspector General that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened.”
    Oh my goodness. Things just got REAL.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    so Trump's stooge's stooge puts out a statement saying he disagrees with the conclusions of the IG report. When his own report isn't even complete?

    That seem "odd" to anyone?
    See my post above. Horowitz can only interview people employed by the DOJ and FBI.

    He was told that they heard a rumor and launched a crazy investigation into trumps team. He said "...ok. I guess..."

    Barr and durham know that Mifsud and downer were foreign spies thrown at trump's team BEFORE that time. The CIA and foreign govts are involved. They have that intel. Barr and durham do not. Therefore, they have different conclusions.
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    Wait, I thought the FBI hated Trump? I wonder how much coverage this will get on Trump tv?


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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    lol, you are too much. Well if the Barr's stooge Durham doesn't come through with indictments, I guess there'll be another investigation?

    Oh, and when's McCabe getting indicted? You said your CT shill sources said he lied multiple times under oath and committed other illegal acts.
    So Barr is a stooge, and Durham is a lackey. Man, you are salty as fuk
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    LOL at LieutenantGainz negging me for posting facts about the report. Come outta your hole, peasant.
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    Oh my goodness. Things just got REAL.
    Everyone agrees that the FBI committed fraud on the FISA court to spy, and continued to commit fraud on the court 4 times.

    What they disagree on is if there was a factual predicate for opening the investigation. Barr and durham have the details on Mifsud. Horowitz will dodge questions on mfisud, guaranteed. Watch on Wednesday. If he does, you know they all know the truth and it's going to come out.
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    So Barr is a stooge, and Durham is a lackey. Man, you are salty as fuk
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    Oh my goodness. Things just got REAL.
    Yea, we'll see if the grand jury thinks more of whatever Durham brings than they thought of the indictment attempt on McCabe.

    I'm quite sure the Durham report will be THE ONE cult. Quite sure.
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