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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    so Trump's stooge's stooge puts out a statement saying he disagrees with the conclusions of the IG report. When his own report isn't even complete?

    That seem "odd" to anyone?

    why do you lefties inherently hate the law, justice and facts?
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    So Barr is a stooge, and Durham is a lackey. Man, you are salty as fuk
    Let's see, Barr deliberately put out a false narrative about the Mueller report. Now he's contradicting the freaking IG who's the expert in these matters.

    What would you call it?
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Let's see, Barr deliberately put out a false narrative about the Mueller report. Now he's contradicting the freaking IG who's the expert in these matters.

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    completely false, fake news. The fact you're still peddling that bullchit is telling.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Let's see, Barr deliberately put out a false narrative about the Mueller report. Now he's contradicting the freaking IG who's the expert in these matters.

    What would you call it?
    What do you call Durham putting out a memo stating he told IG he disagreed with their report a month ago? Durham investigation isn't limited and is all encompassing, so he would have more information than Horowitz, right?

    The ONLY reason he would make a statement like this is if his report directly contradicts Horowitz, yes?
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Let's see, Barr deliberately put out a false narrative about the Mueller report. Now he's contradicting the freaking IG who's the expert in these matters.

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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Let's see, Barr deliberately put out a false narrative about the Mueller report. Now he's contradicting the freaking IG who's the expert in these matters.

    What would you call it?
    He's in a position to contradict the IG report because he has more information available to him than what Horowitz had. If Horowitz made a key finding (whether for or against the case of spying on Trump) it would actually be in the best interest of the DOJ to correct that assertion based on the additional information uncovered in a formal investigation rather than to let the potentially false assertion percolate throughout the media.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Let's see, Barr deliberately put out a false narrative about the Mueller report. Now he's contradicting the freaking IG who's the expert in these matters.

    What would you call it?
    Trying to be objective as possible, Horowitz did his job and showed that the FISA process was abused. There was a low standard burden of proof to open up an intrusive surveillance campaign into a Presidential candidate, the report says as much. I'm happy that the IG admitted that much at least. And resulted into the standard outcome when it comes to an internal audit (e.g. procedures will be revised, blah blah blah) and since the FBI leadership at the time is no longer employed at the FBI, there really isn't any administrative action that needs to take place to further rectify the situation.

    In the preparation of the FISA applications to surveil Carter Page, the Crossfire Hurricane team failed to comply with FBI policies, and in so doing fell short of what is rightfully expected from a premier law enforcement agency entrusted with such an intrusive surveillance tool.
    However, it's also clear he couldn't go any further because his investigation was stonewalled in various ways, as also indicated in the report. If AG Barr is in possession of knowledge that indicates something more nefarious may have happened, it may have been outside the purview of the IG's investigation and why AG Barr and Mr. Durham have stated as much. Again, we'll have to wait for the next investigation to conclude.

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    Originally Posted by ~Hades~ View Post
    why do you lefties inherently hate the law, justice and facts?
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    Oh wow, so youre telling me that the Trumpers who got all their "facts" from tinfoil, crackpot CT blogs and sources were...wrong? I did NOT see this coming

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    Originally Posted by semitope View Post
    says this while on the side attacking the FBI and their use of the law and facts.
    The report literally says no facts were used in renewing FISA warrants and forwarded this information as well as what they should do for this not to happen again. Are you retarded my man?
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    So Barr is a stooge, and Durham is a lackey. Man, you are salty as fuk
    According to Sillie Durham is a lackey while Mueller was above reproach.

    This is the same Durham that Obama used to get to the bottom of Bush's CIA torture racket.
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    Horowitz's report is damning and Trump does get some vindication, even if no one was held directly responsible: The burden of proof for surveilling a Presidential campaign is clearly very low and open for abuse.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Let's see, Barr deliberately put out a false narrative about the Mueller report. Now he's contradicting the freaking IG who's the expert in these matters.

    What would you call it?
    What false narrative? Durham (a life long democrat) has said he disagrees with some of the findings by the IG. He agreed with Barr. Their investigation is a lot more expansive than the IG one. Why not just wait until they are done with their investigation?
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    Could we actually see justice? I'm holding just a small bit of hope.
    Maybe. It's pretty damning that Durham AND Barr have came out and shiet on his report. Unless they have something that directly contradicts it, I don't see why they would do this. And this is keeping in mind the report definitively states there was no basis on the Dossier to keep renewing the FISA warrants. Basically EVERYTHING they did but actually start the investigation was wrong. So it seems that Durham will come out with reasons on why the report had no basis to begin with.
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    What false narrative? Durham (a life long democrat) has said he disagrees with some of the findings by the IG. He agreed with Barr. Their investigation is a lot more expansive than the IG one. Why not just wait until they are done with their investigation?
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    Originally Posted by Iczer View Post
    Could we actually see justice? I'm holding just a small bit of hope.
    I'm trying to speculate what kind of criminal charges could even be leveraged out of Durham's investigation. His investigators would need to be in possession of some pretty damning material to get a conspiracy charge to stick. The DOJ has done a pretty good job of tip-toeing around anything that involves high ranking members of our government.
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    Originally Posted by chalup View Post
    Maybe. It's pretty damning that Durham AND Barr have came out and shiet on his report. Unless they have something that directly contradicts it, I don't see why they would do this. And this is keeping in mind the report definitively states there was no basis on the Dossier to keep renewing the FISA warrants. Basically EVERYTHING they did but actually start the investigation was wrong. So it seems that Durham will come out with reasons on why the report had no basis to begin with.
    I guess you don't understand what being partisan is. Barr has been doing this since before he became AG.
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    So Trump and Barr just went out and lied to the American people. The report says one thing, they say another. That's where we're at in this country..
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    Originally Posted by Kane_89 View Post
    Such a partisan douche. No I wasnt making chit up. I honestly thought i heard that he was a democrat. A part of me is relieved to know he isnt since there is so much corruption amongst that party.

    And lets be honest...after the 16 democrat lawyers heading up the russian collusion conspiracy, that tards like you bought and still attempt to peddle...Durham being a republican is meaningless. You dont get to bitch about it.
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    So Trump and Barr just went out and lied to the American people. The report says one thing, they say another. That's where we're at in this country..
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    Trump says DOJ report ‘far worse than I ever thought possible,’ despite no finding of political bias

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    The report found no evidence of political bias at the root of the Trump-Russia investigation, and no “deep state” effort to undermine his presidential campaign.

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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Let's see, Barr deliberately put out a false narrative about the Mueller report. Now he's contradicting the freaking IG who's the expert in these matters.

    What would you call it?
    Barr is contradicting the IG. Barr has more information than the IG. He has all the information regarding the rest of our intelligence community's involvement, along with international involvement. Horowitz did not. So why do you think that Horowitz's conclusions, based on his limited info from current FBI and DOJ officials, is correct and that the expanded information held by durham and barr in their criminal probe is incorrect?

    The mueller report and this investigation are linked. If there was an effort to illegally spy on and then overthrow the president of the united states, then it makes sense that barr felt obligated to set the record straight regarding the corrupt investigation done by Mueller, as well as where the current investigation is going.

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    Originally Posted by Jrd86 View Post
    What false narrative? Durham (a life long democrat) has said he disagrees with some of the findings by the IG. He agreed with Barr. Their investigation is a lot more expansive than the IG one. Why not just wait until they are done with their investigation?
    So odd, for years Democrats have been telling us they just want the facts. What changed?
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    Originally Posted by BadMonkeyFunker View Post
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    Originally Posted by XterraRob View Post
    Horowitz's report is damning and Trump does get some vindication, even if no one was held directly responsible: The burden of proof for surveilling a Presidential campaign is clearly very low and open for abuse.
    The burden of proof for opening an investigation is low, not for spying. Spying requires verified facts to be presented to a court. They didn't meet that, as proven in the report. They illegally spied on the trump team with fake intel, manipulated intel, and withheld intel that would prove trump members innocent.

    Barr and durham know more about the papadapolous meeting with downer and Mifsud. Those were set up. So if horowitz doesn't have that info and says "I guess the predicate was legit, but it was just hearsay by a trump team member that Russia had Clinton's emails, not that anyone was involved..." when Barr and Durham know that Mifsud was tasked with planting that idea and downer was tasked with extracting that info from papadapolous… oh boy! We have a problem here with the predicate...

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