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    This movie portrays exactly what will happen once the police state is enforced

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    That's already been going on for like the last 30 years and the police state is already here

    I guess when you're the slowly boiling frog by the time you're boiled you don't even realize it
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    Originally Posted by LoveMyDog View Post
    I guess when you're the slowly boiling frog by the time you're boiled you don't even realize it
    Accurate.
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    Yet you won't support the one candidate who actually speaks out against the MIC...figures

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    Yet you won't support the one candidate who actually speaks out against the MIC...figures

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    Except doesn't that movie have lots of good people portrayed in the govt? Like the FBI who uncover it.

    1984 or V for Vendetta are more proper examples.
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    Do you even know what a police state is? Or do you just like to create buzzwords because you watched an old Will Smith movie and have heard something about a book describing a totalitarian future that sounds super chitty?

    America is not currently a police state and that's pretty much a fact. Are there problems with policing? Duh. There's problems with literally every single part of the government - and the people too. That's just the world. You should always work to better it and be the best person you can be, but just spouting nonsense doesn't do anyone any good.
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    The Denzel movie with Bruce Willis is a more likely scenario
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    Originally Posted by AgRyan View Post
    Do you even know what a police state is? Or do you just like to create buzzwords because you watched an old Will Smith movie and have heard something about a book describing a totalitarian future that sounds super chitty?

    America is not currently a police state and that's pretty much a fact. Are there problems with policing? Duh. There's problems with literally every single part of the government - and the people too. That's just the world. You should always work to better it and be the best person you can be, but just spouting nonsense doesn't do anyone any good.
    Each day our rights are eroded little by little

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    Originally Posted by CaliSuperSport View Post
    Except doesn't that movie have lots of good people portrayed in the govt? Like the FBI who uncover it.

    1984 or V for Vendetta are more proper examples.
    The FBI doesn't uncover it until the end. The intelligence doesn't discover it until the very end.
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    Originally Posted by BulkingIsHard View Post
    Each day our rights are eroded little by little

    http://www.civil-liberties.com/pages/dead.html
    Cool dude, a site with random percentages based off nothing, with no legit sources, creating no further discussion on the matter. You seem super well educated on this. Not doing your own research and not forming your own opinions on the matter is part of the problem. Even if the link you posted was taken as 100% truth, that doesn't make America a police state. Maybe read up on police state before you engage in anymore discussions on the topic.
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    Originally Posted by AgRyan View Post
    Cool dude, a site with random percentages based off nothing, with no legit sources, creating no further discussion on the matter. You seem super well educated on this. Not doing your own research and not forming your own opinions on the matter is part of the problem. Even if the link you posted was taken as 100% truth, that doesn't make America a police state. Maybe read up on police state before you engage in anymore discussions on the topic.
    What would make America a police state?
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    Originally Posted by Tears View Post
    What would make America a police state?
    That depends on your definition of police state, of which there are many.

    You could argue that America is a police state based on certain definitions if you fail to look further into the matter. I'm currently writing my masters thesis on this topic (as well as racism in policing) and while there are obvious areas of improvement, calling America a police state is an over-reaction.
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    Originally Posted by AgRyan View Post
    That depends on your definition of police state, of which there are many.

    You could argue that America is a police state based on certain definitions if you fail to look further into the matter. I'm currently writing my masters thesis on this topic (as well as racism in policing) and while there are obvious areas of improvement, calling America a police state is an over-reaction.
    there is only one definition of a police state.

    Either you understand it, or you have yet to figure it out.
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    Originally Posted by Tears View Post
    there is only one definition of a police state.

    Either you understand it, or you have yet to figure it out.
    You have engaged in 0 intelligent discussion reference this topic. Like seriously, if you post a thread about something, either be trolling or stand behind your posts and thread by contributing to the topic instead of random one liners. One liners are dumb.
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    Originally Posted by AgRyan View Post
    You have engaged in 0 intelligent discussion reference this topic. Like seriously, if you post a thread about something, either be trolling or stand behind your posts and thread by contributing to the topic instead of random one liners. One liners are dumb.
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    Originally Posted by Tears View Post
    Watch your ass as your own gun penetrates your *******.
    Point proven.

    Seriously, this is the issue with so many people who cry "police state!". You try to engage them in an intelligent discussion and all their "arguments" turn into mud. People like you thrive off one liners, insults, and "facts" that have never been looked into.
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    i honestly dont mind a police state, if i take down all the scumbags with me. at least i can walk around the streets knowing i wont get allah oohh-akbared or have millenials protesting everywhere
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    Originally Posted by LoveMyDog View Post
    That's already been going on for like the last 30 years and the police state is already here

    I guess when you're the slowly boiling frog by the time you're boiled you don't even realize it
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    Originally Posted by AgRyan View Post
    Point proven.

    Seriously, this is the issue with so many people who cry "police state!". You try to engage them in an intelligent discussion and all their "arguments" turn into mud. People like you thrive off one liners, insults, and "facts" that have never been looked into.
    My apologies. I’ve been outside for the past couple hours

    What exactly do you think is happening with the police state? There is literally one result.
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    Originally Posted by AgRyan View Post
    You have engaged in 0 intelligent discussion reference this topic. Like seriously, if you post a thread about something, either be trolling or stand behind your posts and thread by contributing to the topic instead of random one liners. One liners are dumb.
    And you believe you have?
    At least OP seems to be having somewhat of a laugh.

    You’ve basically said:
    “It’s not a police state” and when asked about what would make the US a police state, replyed “That depends”.


    If you wanna invite to an “intelligent” discussion, educate OP on why he’s wrong and especially if you want to sit on your high horse, you should really be elaborating a lot more on the points you’re making.
    So far it has been “it’s a police state!”, “it’s not!”, “it is!”, “it’s not!” etc. and then you decide to call OP out for using one liners and not wanting a discussion LMAO. He has at least provided a link to help prove his point of view.
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    Yet you won't support the one candidate who actually speaks out against the MIC...figures

    I ain't falling for that ... She'll say anything the people want to hear because that's what the people want they want to go back to the times when we weren't at war in the middle east when we weren't at war with each other. Remember Trump said the same damn thing and were still in the middle east and this country is more divided than ever before.. She's a plant just like every other politician her role is to play Hilary Clinton's foe and Clinton's role is to accuse her of being a Russian agent. It's WWE politics all politicians are puppets on a string. She was also a member of the council of foreign relations
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    Originally Posted by Tears View Post
    My apologies. I’ve been outside for the past couple hours

    What exactly do you think is happening with the police state? There is literally one result.
    Dude your question has no answer. What police state? Explain to me a police state and I will explain. There's a couple obvious answers here tbh but I don't think you understand the concept enough to explain and define the current police states.

    Originally Posted by Brosnbroccoli View Post
    And you believe you have?
    At least OP seems to be having somewhat of a laugh.

    You’ve basically said:
    “It’s not a police state” and when asked about what would make the US a police state, replyed “That depends”.


    If you wanna invite to an “intelligent” discussion, educate OP on why he’s wrong and especially if you want to sit on your high horse, you should really be elaborating a lot more on the points you’re making.
    So far it has been “it’s a police state!”, “it’s not!”, “it is!”, “it’s not!” etc. and then you decide to call OP out for using one liners and not wanting a discussion LMAO. He has at least provided a link to help prove his point of view.
    Because OP has not defines a police state. And by basically every definition of the word, the United States of America is not a police state. So we need some further clarification on what OP's opinion of a police state is.

    It's not my job to show why OP is wrong. If OP is presenting an argument, it is his argument to show that his argument has merit, that's seriously like intro the absolute basics of an educated discussion. I'm not going to elaborate on anything until OP presents a valid argument. This is like someone saying "The earth is flat, prove me wrong". It's not even worth arguing about until an intelligent discussion point is brought up.
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    Police state is an understatement, as things are we are all heading for a global slave state.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    Yet you won't support the one candidate who actually speaks out against the MIC...figures

    How can she be anti gun and anti police state/fascism? These two things cannot coexist, bud.



    Originally Posted by AgRyan View Post
    Do you even know what a police state is? Or do you just like to create buzzwords because you watched an old Will Smith movie and have heard something about a book describing a totalitarian future that sounds super chitty?

    America is not currently a police state and that's pretty much a fact. Are there problems with policing? Duh. There's problems with literally every single part of the government - and the people too. That's just the world. You should always work to better it and be the best person you can be, but just spouting nonsense doesn't do anyone any good.


    It is hard to realize from the inside, but we do live in a police state by definition. The apparatus exists and is operational. If you are waiting for exaggerated extremes, it will be far too late by the time you realize it. Ask the Germans, Russians, etc., etc. etc.

    Originally Posted by AgRyan View Post
    Dude your question has no answer. What police state? Explain to me a police state and I will explain. There's a couple obvious answers here tbh but I don't think you understand the concept enough to explain and define the current police states.



    Because OP has not defines a police state. And by basically every definition of the word, the United States of America is not a police state. So we need some further clarification on what OP's opinion of a police state is.

    It's not my job to show why OP is wrong. If OP is presenting an argument, it is his argument to show that his argument has merit, that's seriously like intro the absolute basics of an educated discussion. I'm not going to elaborate on anything until OP presents a valid argument. This is like someone saying "The earth is flat, prove me wrong". It's not even worth arguing about until an intelligent discussion point is brought up.

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    It's the job of the police to protect the government, the status quo, and generally those in power.

    The police is part of the state. And the state's function is to protect the ruling class.

    For internal projection of force the state has the police, and for external force the army (land, air, sea).
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