The burden of proof is on the accuser. I’ll judge any evidence on its own merit. I’ll dumb this down for you-anyone can accuse anyone of anything. As such, our justice system requires the accuser to substantiate their claim with evidence.
An example of evidence I would accept would be this: An authenticated transcript from Trump to Ukraine explaining that aid was withheld because Ukraine refused to investigate Burisma BECAUSE Joe Biden is running against him. You’re short half a dozen evidentiary steps. And the aid was released.
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Thread: Pelosi. We are going to impeach
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12-05-2019, 06:24 PM #181
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12-05-2019, 06:30 PM #184
So the only thing you'd accept as "proof" is an "authenticated" transcript from Trump to Zelensky that aid was withheld BECAUSE Biden was running against him. Only BECAUSE.
This is progress.
So if evidence is brought that the SOLE reason for withholding aid was "because Biden was running against him" then you'd admit Trump should be impeached?
Did I get anything wrong?
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12-05-2019, 06:37 PM #190
Absent a crime.. again, learn about the topic we're discussing before making comments.
I mean that as no disrespect because not everyone knows you can be impeached for violating their Oath to Defend the Constitution, and not because a crime was committed. (Which btw, Trump has committed MANY crimes, but has enjoyed his protection from them because he's president).
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12-05-2019, 06:58 PM #199
Private citizens can hire anyone they want. The President, who has sworn an Oath of Office, cannot.
People point to Biden as VP leveraging Ukraine to fire the prosecutor, but they don't understand or intentionally ignore the fact that Biden was sent there to further US and Foreign policy.
NO ONE IN THE OBAMA ADMIN BENEFITED FROM THAT ACTION. THERE WERE NO CURRENT INVESTIGATIONS INTO BURISMA LET ALONE HUNTER WHEN THAT HAPPENED.
Look it up yourself. Use credible sources.
Post them here. I'll debunk them for you.
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12-05-2019, 07:01 PM #200
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12-05-2019, 07:04 PM #201
Trump never said he expected Ukraine to do something in order to get the aid. Ukraine said they had no idea the aid was even held up.
I thought the outrage was about Trump asking a foreign nation to get involved in the election. It's hard to keep track because it seems to change on a daily basis. I hear the Democrats are bringing up Mueller/Russia/Obstruction again. I guess they will try anything to sell impeachment. After all, they've been trying for 3 years.
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12-05-2019, 07:05 PM #202
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12-06-2019, 07:03 AM #206
lmfao you're so blindly partisan you think having a R next to their name means they're 100% in lock step and cover for one another like the dems do. Sad!
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